(Note: Mods, I am not sure where this thread should go. Since I can't post in Logic/Debate/ASDF, I'm going to post it here.)





Why do people turn Vegan/Vegetarian?

I honestly think it's only one thing. People relate to animals more closely than they do plants.

To be fair, all humans must survive on living things, or something that came from a living thing. No matter how I see it though, in stark, naked logic, is it really fair to favor killing plant life over animal life? See, animals can show pain. They can scream, run, do things that we can relate do. Plants can't scream, or run, unless you are high, or the plants are magic. Plants do show response, but they show it in a quieter, more stationary way. When you damage a plant, it's systems go into high gear to repair itself. And to be fair, eating fruit is kind of like eating veal. Why do we promote that animals should be moved out of cramped conditions, when farmers mass grow crops to feed the local population. Why do we promote not a drop of animal blood should be spared, but then we chop down trees and eat roots. Why?

Because, in stark logic, we just relate more to animals.

We can't stop going, "Aww! Look at the puppy's/piggy's/cow's face! It's so cute!" I've never seen anyone fawn over a plant like that. Animals have more humanlike qualities, and we then feel sympathy towards them. Plants just sit there. Everyone thinks that becoming vegan is "cool, hip", but I've never seen someone eat pure meat out of principal. I'm not insinuating you become a "meatatarian", I'm just saying, that being vegetarian/vegan out of moral principals is (logically) the wrongest thing ever.


And thus, if you cared to read it, that is my long-winded arguement against the V group. (No, not vizzed)


Oh and I just love steak. Like, seriously, who in their mind would give up meat, especially on principle?
Crazy bro.

Hmm wonder why you couldn't post in Debate/Logic thread. Seems like an appropiate thread. But I guess I wouldn't know.

My theory on veganism is this...

1. Its their belief- While I respect someone for being a vegan because they are a huge animal rights protester, I must argue that humanity is also an animal (even thou this goes against lets say God creating man with an independent mind and rational seperate from the beast who does something without think about it). Humanity and Animals are similar in that we eat to survive, fight to survive, run to survive, and sometimes kill to survive (the last one is more common in animals since humanity looks down on murder). The only major difference between man and animals is that human feels peity after doing something that is considered "evil", animals don't (well maybe some animals do show peity, but a vast majority don't; and also some humans don't feel peity for murder, rape, or any other similar crimes). I guess I should also point out that while animals eat their own kind (sharks for example), humanity can also eat each other (Donor Party for example and despite the fact that canibalism is something that society looks HUGELY DOWN upon).

2. Like KG and Crazy Li said, plants can feel pain and might have feelings also. If that is the case then should a vegan also not eat plants since they too can feel pain or have feelings. I ask any Vegan or Vegitarian to think about this question cause if you say that yes we shouldn't eat plants since they too can feel pain or emotions then how are we going to eat? If you say no, then where do we draw the line on if something feels pain or has emotions then is it okay to eat it?

I will repeat I don't have anything against vegans as I've went to school with some vegans and some of my family and friends are vegitarians/vegans, its just I don't think their beliefs on why we should be a vegan is not a strong enough reason.