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09-10-12 10:55 PM
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Okay, I was wondering, why do you think some people always end up arguing or even debating about things? Even if you try to change the subject or even drop the subject? Just wanted to know everyone's thoughts on this. Please let's not attack anyone or say names, just want opinions on the matter.
Okay, I was wondering, why do you think some people always end up arguing or even debating about things? Even if you try to change the subject or even drop the subject? Just wanted to know everyone's thoughts on this. Please let's not attack anyone or say names, just want opinions on the matter.
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09-10-12 10:57 PM
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I guess that they want to prove that he or she is right or smarter than the person you arguing or debating.
I guess that they want to prove that he or she is right or smarter than the person you arguing or debating.
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Mobouis1 : Before I reply to your opinion, I like your post layout. Just wanted to put that out there. Yeah, I think it's a part of human nature to try to want to be right all the time, and you try to prove it even more even when you're wrong. I've done it before, and then later thought logically, oh wait nevermind. LOL.
Mobouis1 : Before I reply to your opinion, I like your post layout. Just wanted to put that out there. Yeah, I think it's a part of human nature to try to want to be right all the time, and you try to prove it even more even when you're wrong. I've done it before, and then later thought logically, oh wait nevermind. LOL.
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A lot of it for me is to give my opinion, but a lot of it is also to hear another opinion on my own thoughts and get another person's perspective. I've changed a lot over the years, and a lot of that is from debating other people with an open mind. If you go into a debate convinced that you're right, and only intending to prove that to everyone else, then you won't learn anything and you won't have anything important to teach someone else. You're just wasting your time.
A lot of it for me is to give my opinion, but a lot of it is also to hear another opinion on my own thoughts and get another person's perspective. I've changed a lot over the years, and a lot of that is from debating other people with an open mind. If you go into a debate convinced that you're right, and only intending to prove that to everyone else, then you won't learn anything and you won't have anything important to teach someone else. You're just wasting your time.
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Well, the way I see it, several different things can start a debate (That may or may not spur off into an argument):

- A normal question asked that can be answered with multiple different opinions/answers.
- A difficult question that is hard to answer simply, but is still discussed either way.
- An event in which somebody does something that irritates somebody else, in which they tell that person straight forward, in which the other person does not like the opinion (I see this mostly with Christians)
- An event where two people have a normal conversation, it ends, and then one of the two goes behind the others back and discusses it like it's no problem, when in all actuality, it is.
- An event where somebody is highly sensitive, somebody does something that makes Sensitive Person A very emotional, and SP-A starts lashing out on how bad Random Person B is due to almost doing nothing.
- An event in which a very sensitive and risky topic arises and the two people talking are very rationale and logical about everything and act politely/ One person acts logical, other acts irresponsibly and over-emotional, leading to the over-emotional one causing a fight/ Both people are irresponsible and over-emotional, fighting with each other while also getting off topic of the subject they were debating.


When they try to change the subject or drop it, I see that it is probably their way of saying "Shut up, you're utterly useless, I don't care anymore" (Especially if the topic is still going on without any problems whatsoever), a way of running away from what they're saying because they are thinking logically with reason, or on rare occasions, doing a mildly risky topic in which they go overboard, and thus the topic should be dropped ASAP (Ex: A debate on legalizing gay marriage, in which one person shows up expressing their hate for it, and then starts one gigantic hate fight).

It isn't purely Human Nature to force your way into being right all the time (Unless you're religious), and if it is obvious that the person is correct, then that's that, no reason to debate. However, if it is a question of, for example, what somebody's opinion of you is, then that person should be obligated to answer fully without their reasons being considered starting a debate or an argument, no matter what the opinions are.

Basically, it just seems like all this falls down to is sensitivity. If you are overly sensitive about things, you will freak out more often and make things a huge mess. If you are less sensitive about things, you will be a bit more laid back on the opinions and facts stated in the conversation and not consider it a debate or an argument at all.

When people are "proven wrong", they tend to give up and stop pushing that part of their debate. For example, lets say that Person A said "I like long jackets because they are cool and they look nice". Now, Person B shows up and says "I see that you like Long Jackets, but you didn't explain how you think they look". Person A then explains that they did say that, Person B asks for some evidence, and then 1) Person A shows the evidence supporting the claim and Person B understands, 2) Person B sees the evidence before Person A shows it, and then Person B explains that they found it and tells A that they no longer need to search and that B understands now.
However, there are some times when they deny every last bit of evidence that the other person gives them, and such brags on about how they are right and the other person is wrong no matter what. That tends to happen when you're fighting with a religious person that's as close minded as possible.

Gee, I'd hate to be the person that we're saying "Let's not attack anyone or say names" about. They must sure be a pretty big chump I bet, especially if this thread was created because of them, Nya~!
Well, the way I see it, several different things can start a debate (That may or may not spur off into an argument):

- A normal question asked that can be answered with multiple different opinions/answers.
- A difficult question that is hard to answer simply, but is still discussed either way.
- An event in which somebody does something that irritates somebody else, in which they tell that person straight forward, in which the other person does not like the opinion (I see this mostly with Christians)
- An event where two people have a normal conversation, it ends, and then one of the two goes behind the others back and discusses it like it's no problem, when in all actuality, it is.
- An event where somebody is highly sensitive, somebody does something that makes Sensitive Person A very emotional, and SP-A starts lashing out on how bad Random Person B is due to almost doing nothing.
- An event in which a very sensitive and risky topic arises and the two people talking are very rationale and logical about everything and act politely/ One person acts logical, other acts irresponsibly and over-emotional, leading to the over-emotional one causing a fight/ Both people are irresponsible and over-emotional, fighting with each other while also getting off topic of the subject they were debating.


When they try to change the subject or drop it, I see that it is probably their way of saying "Shut up, you're utterly useless, I don't care anymore" (Especially if the topic is still going on without any problems whatsoever), a way of running away from what they're saying because they are thinking logically with reason, or on rare occasions, doing a mildly risky topic in which they go overboard, and thus the topic should be dropped ASAP (Ex: A debate on legalizing gay marriage, in which one person shows up expressing their hate for it, and then starts one gigantic hate fight).

It isn't purely Human Nature to force your way into being right all the time (Unless you're religious), and if it is obvious that the person is correct, then that's that, no reason to debate. However, if it is a question of, for example, what somebody's opinion of you is, then that person should be obligated to answer fully without their reasons being considered starting a debate or an argument, no matter what the opinions are.

Basically, it just seems like all this falls down to is sensitivity. If you are overly sensitive about things, you will freak out more often and make things a huge mess. If you are less sensitive about things, you will be a bit more laid back on the opinions and facts stated in the conversation and not consider it a debate or an argument at all.

When people are "proven wrong", they tend to give up and stop pushing that part of their debate. For example, lets say that Person A said "I like long jackets because they are cool and they look nice". Now, Person B shows up and says "I see that you like Long Jackets, but you didn't explain how you think they look". Person A then explains that they did say that, Person B asks for some evidence, and then 1) Person A shows the evidence supporting the claim and Person B understands, 2) Person B sees the evidence before Person A shows it, and then Person B explains that they found it and tells A that they no longer need to search and that B understands now.
However, there are some times when they deny every last bit of evidence that the other person gives them, and such brags on about how they are right and the other person is wrong no matter what. That tends to happen when you're fighting with a religious person that's as close minded as possible.

Gee, I'd hate to be the person that we're saying "Let's not attack anyone or say names" about. They must sure be a pretty big chump I bet, especially if this thread was created because of them, Nya~!
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To put it simply, people can't drop things because they are stupid and want to beat their ideals and opinions into your head.

Some people are intelligent enough to know when to drop things, but even intelligent people end up doing this themselves at some point. No one can go through life without doing it, it's just a human function.

It's depressing, but that's how it is. And the best part is, no one ever admits that they do it.
To put it simply, people can't drop things because they are stupid and want to beat their ideals and opinions into your head.

Some people are intelligent enough to know when to drop things, but even intelligent people end up doing this themselves at some point. No one can go through life without doing it, it's just a human function.

It's depressing, but that's how it is. And the best part is, no one ever admits that they do it.
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09-11-12 06:10 AM
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soxfan849 : You actually have a very mature way of approaching this subject. You're not trying to force your opinions on anyone, you are just expressing them and you are willing to listen to others opinions as well. If more people did that, there just might be less arguments.

legacyme3 : Haha, you're funny but oh so right on the spot!
soxfan849 : You actually have a very mature way of approaching this subject. You're not trying to force your opinions on anyone, you are just expressing them and you are willing to listen to others opinions as well. If more people did that, there just might be less arguments.

legacyme3 : Haha, you're funny but oh so right on the spot!
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Simple, They want to be right.

They can't deal with the fact of being wrong at something. So, they start arguing with the other person to see who's right... The worst part is that they don't stop until one of them recognizes is wrong, or until both leave with anger. 
Simple, They want to be right.

They can't deal with the fact of being wrong at something. So, they start arguing with the other person to see who's right... The worst part is that they don't stop until one of them recognizes is wrong, or until both leave with anger. 
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Eddy88 : Very true. It seems those kind of people just want to force their "views" onto you because they think they're always right. I agree.
Eddy88 : Very true. It seems those kind of people just want to force their "views" onto you because they think they're always right. I agree.
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