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40 Months for stealing billions, 15 years for stealing 100 bucks.

 

10-20-11 11:23 PM
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Things like this always make me think... wow.

I mean, when you look at this, don't you also think there's something wrong?


Things like this always make me think... wow.

I mean, when you look at this, don't you also think there's something wrong?

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well, to be fair... these cases were handled in different states so the laws about how much time someone can go to prison for different crimes probably varies.

I am not saying in any way I agree with it.... stealing 3 billion dollars is wrong no matter how you look at it.

However, the 15 year sentence to the homeless guy might be the best thing for him in all honesty. He'll have access to 3 meals a day, a bed to sleep in and at least some healthcare. He's likely better off than he was
well, to be fair... these cases were handled in different states so the laws about how much time someone can go to prison for different crimes probably varies.

I am not saying in any way I agree with it.... stealing 3 billion dollars is wrong no matter how you look at it.

However, the 15 year sentence to the homeless guy might be the best thing for him in all honesty. He'll have access to 3 meals a day, a bed to sleep in and at least some healthcare. He's likely better off than he was

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10-21-11 10:34 AM
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geeogree :

In some ways yeah, he probably does have it better lol.

I mean, I think people who steal belong in jail regardless, but it's the whole principle of the thing that concerned me.

It feels weird, even with a variation in the law, that a person who stole maybe 1/4 of a guys paycheck for the week get 7.5 years more hard time than a person who stole one of the highest amounts in US History.

I figure there's a reason for it, but in general it feels silly.
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In some ways yeah, he probably does have it better lol.

I mean, I think people who steal belong in jail regardless, but it's the whole principle of the thing that concerned me.

It feels weird, even with a variation in the law, that a person who stole maybe 1/4 of a guys paycheck for the week get 7.5 years more hard time than a person who stole one of the highest amounts in US History.

I figure there's a reason for it, but in general it feels silly.

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oh yeah. It's insane. I agree.

And I actually disagree that people who steal all belong in jail. Someone like this homeless guy don't deserve jail time. He was remorseful and returned the money.... he had a conscience. Instead of hiding and keeping the money he returned it and turned himself in. I don't think he deserved any jail time.

The guy who stole 3 billion deserves jail time and he also should spend the rest of his life paying people back as best he can.
oh yeah. It's insane. I agree.

And I actually disagree that people who steal all belong in jail. Someone like this homeless guy don't deserve jail time. He was remorseful and returned the money.... he had a conscience. Instead of hiding and keeping the money he returned it and turned himself in. I don't think he deserved any jail time.

The guy who stole 3 billion deserves jail time and he also should spend the rest of his life paying people back as best he can.

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And that is perfectly fine. I respect your opinion. =)

I only think everyone deserves punishment because of authoritarian rule I got used to in my home environment. When you stole anything, regardless of what you did with it, or how sorry you were, you got a punishment. If I stole a cookie, I'd get something minor, like a 15 minute timeout. If I stole 50 bucks... the punishment was more severe. It taught me a lesson and I haven't stolen a thing in a long long time.

But enough of my personal life =P

I think he deserves like at max a week in jail. He returned the money, and did feel remorseful so this is really not all too much of a crime. I just worry he'll end up stealing again. And end up back in there.
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And that is perfectly fine. I respect your opinion. =)

I only think everyone deserves punishment because of authoritarian rule I got used to in my home environment. When you stole anything, regardless of what you did with it, or how sorry you were, you got a punishment. If I stole a cookie, I'd get something minor, like a 15 minute timeout. If I stole 50 bucks... the punishment was more severe. It taught me a lesson and I haven't stolen a thing in a long long time.

But enough of my personal life =P

I think he deserves like at max a week in jail. He returned the money, and did feel remorseful so this is really not all too much of a crime. I just worry he'll end up stealing again. And end up back in there.

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well yeah.... I'm not suggesting he should have gotten away with it without ANY punishment but any significant jail time is a little over the top.
well yeah.... I'm not suggesting he should have gotten away with it without ANY punishment but any significant jail time is a little over the top.

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Oh yeah, I agree with that part totally. In the grand scheme of things, a week in a light security prison would be more than enough to get the message across. I don't know how they get off giving him 15 years >.>


Oh yeah, I agree with that part totally. In the grand scheme of things, a week in a light security prison would be more than enough to get the message across. I don't know how they get off giving him 15 years >.>



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It was probably just to get him off the street. A lot of people actually do things like that on purpose because you get a place to sleep, medical care, and three meals a day. Still, fifteen years is freaking crazy. I agree with you guys that a week, max, is what he should have gotten.

And that guy that stole the $3 Billion? Yeah... 40 months? That is some bulls**t right there. HE should be the one with the fifteen year sentence.
It was probably just to get him off the street. A lot of people actually do things like that on purpose because you get a place to sleep, medical care, and three meals a day. Still, fifteen years is freaking crazy. I agree with you guys that a week, max, is what he should have gotten.

And that guy that stole the $3 Billion? Yeah... 40 months? That is some bulls**t right there. HE should be the one with the fifteen year sentence.

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Well, it was a robbery in the homeless guy's case. More dangerous than scheming to get any amount of money. Maybe it was looked at that way, though I really think how much you steal, no matter the method, should be the basis for you sentence. Still maybe the judge meant to put him in that long so he would have a place to be. Food, shelter. Hell, even friends. If you look at it that way it may not be as bad as it seems.
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Well, it was a robbery in the homeless guy's case. More dangerous than scheming to get any amount of money. Maybe it was looked at that way, though I really think how much you steal, no matter the method, should be the basis for you sentence. Still maybe the judge meant to put him in that long so he would have a place to be. Food, shelter. Hell, even friends. If you look at it that way it may not be as bad as it seems.


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There is one thing I have to ask right now about the individuals in these crimes. How many offenses did each of them commit prior to these sentences? If the man who stole 3 billion has not committed anything prior to this, then it makes more sense that he does not get an enormous jail sentence. How about the man who stole $100? If Louisiana has the "Three-Strike Rule," then I wouldn't be surprised that he received the 15-year sentence. What the Three-Strike Rule does is increase the severity of the of the sentence for recidivists (criminals who continue committing crimes even after spending time in prison). This is meant to tell criminals "Don't do this again," but as Elara stated this isn't always the case.

I am not saying this is fair. It certainly does not look fair at a first glance. But this how our Criminal Justice System works.
There is one thing I have to ask right now about the individuals in these crimes. How many offenses did each of them commit prior to these sentences? If the man who stole 3 billion has not committed anything prior to this, then it makes more sense that he does not get an enormous jail sentence. How about the man who stole $100? If Louisiana has the "Three-Strike Rule," then I wouldn't be surprised that he received the 15-year sentence. What the Three-Strike Rule does is increase the severity of the of the sentence for recidivists (criminals who continue committing crimes even after spending time in prison). This is meant to tell criminals "Don't do this again," but as Elara stated this isn't always the case.

I am not saying this is fair. It certainly does not look fair at a first glance. But this how our Criminal Justice System works.

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That $100 the homeless man stole now turns into at least $450,000 he will be stealing from tax payers

As for the one who stole 3 billion... sometimes its the customers fault for giving into scams without doing the research. If you can get away 1 billion let alone even 2 billion without anyone noticing then that means a majority of the fault lies in the hands of those who are not paying attention.

Sentencing is one thing but my questions are:

1. Where was the security guard at bank? Come on now, get some dam security in there.
2. Why did no one notice fraud until 3 billion? I guess its normal for fraud in corps unless they pass the 2 billion mark

This is what happens when you run or are involved with a sloppy business. A little common sense with security and fraud can go a long way in preventing stuff like this from happening.
That $100 the homeless man stole now turns into at least $450,000 he will be stealing from tax payers

As for the one who stole 3 billion... sometimes its the customers fault for giving into scams without doing the research. If you can get away 1 billion let alone even 2 billion without anyone noticing then that means a majority of the fault lies in the hands of those who are not paying attention.

Sentencing is one thing but my questions are:

1. Where was the security guard at bank? Come on now, get some dam security in there.
2. Why did no one notice fraud until 3 billion? I guess its normal for fraud in corps unless they pass the 2 billion mark

This is what happens when you run or are involved with a sloppy business. A little common sense with security and fraud can go a long way in preventing stuff like this from happening.

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Well this is just pretty dumb to me. I wonder if it has anything to do with race though. The homeless man was obviously black but was the other man white? I would not be surprised as that kind of stuff happens more times than it ever should.
Well this is just pretty dumb to me. I wonder if it has anything to do with race though. The homeless man was obviously black but was the other man white? I would not be surprised as that kind of stuff happens more times than it ever should.

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I think that this is stupid, A guy getting 15 years for 100 bucks, then a different guy getting only 40 months for 3 billon.
If anything the guy that stole the 100 dollars should be let off with a warning or less time since he was only doing it for his health.
Meanwhile the other guy Did it purely For no good reason and should get a higher sentence.





I think that this is stupid, A guy getting 15 years for 100 bucks, then a different guy getting only 40 months for 3 billon.
If anything the guy that stole the 100 dollars should be let off with a warning or less time since he was only doing it for his health.
Meanwhile the other guy Did it purely For no good reason and should get a higher sentence.


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