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I liked Melee a lot more than the N64 one, what makes Melee crap? I thought it was better in every way.

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They killed Ness, the 2nd best character in the original, added Peach and Zelda, who suck, and made some characters(Captain Falcon, Roy, Mewtwo) way to good. The game was lopsided.
They killed Ness, the 2nd best character in the original, added Peach and Zelda, who suck, and made some characters(Captain Falcon, Roy, Mewtwo) way to good. The game was lopsided.

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Originally posted by ziggy
They killed Ness, the 2nd best character in the original, added Peach and Zelda, who suck, and made some characters(Captain Falcon, Roy, Mewtwo) way to good. The game was lopsided.


Originally posted by ziggy
added Peach and Zelda, who suck, and made some characters(Captain Falcon, Roy, Mewtwo) way to good. The game was lopsided.


Originally posted by ziggy
(Captain Falcon, Roy, Mewtwo) way to good. The game was lopsided.


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(Captain Falcon, Roy, Mewtwo) way to good.


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(Mewtwo) way to good.


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(Mewtwo) way to good.


Ohai i justed wated to infom you tha th mew2 sux kthxbai
Originally posted by ziggy
They killed Ness, the 2nd best character in the original, added Peach and Zelda, who suck, and made some characters(Captain Falcon, Roy, Mewtwo) way to good. The game was lopsided.


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added Peach and Zelda, who suck, and made some characters(Captain Falcon, Roy, Mewtwo) way to good. The game was lopsided.


Originally posted by ziggy
(Captain Falcon, Roy, Mewtwo) way to good. The game was lopsided.


Originally posted by ziggy
(Captain Falcon, Roy, Mewtwo) way to good.


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(Mewtwo) way to good.


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(Mewtwo) way to good.


Ohai i justed wated to infom you tha th mew2 sux kthxbai

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When someone was good with Mewtwo, that person was GOOD with Mewtwo. He was a character that was ridiculous when mastered. And adventure mode was kinda lame after the first few times
When someone was good with Mewtwo, that person was GOOD with Mewtwo. He was a character that was ridiculous when mastered. And adventure mode was kinda lame after the first few times

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Every character is ridiculous when mastered. And mewtwo isn't really that good. Characters that was far to strong in melee was sheik and fox. Fox for waveshining and speed. Sheik for speed and insane Fair.
Every character is ridiculous when mastered. And mewtwo isn't really that good. Characters that was far to strong in melee was sheik and fox. Fox for waveshining and speed. Sheik for speed and insane Fair.

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Originally posted by ziggy
They killed Ness, the 2nd best character in the original, added Peach and Zelda, who suck, and made some characters(Captain Falcon, Roy, Mewtwo) way to good. The game was lopsided.
O your right the original was much better when they had easy infinite juggles. Jigglypuff had the cheapest and easiest K.O. ever. Ness wasn't killed in melee they just didn't buff him because he didn't need it. Peach is one of the best characters, I can't play her otherwise I'd show you but wow to say she sucks is a major understatement. Wow to be honest just you saying mewtwo was any good and the fact that you left out falco and fox being way too good makes your post look like a joke man. You didn't tackle any legitimate problems that were in melee. Zelda was a little slow but she wasn't bad. You didn't even list the actual worst character which was Bowser which was almost unplayable. C. Falcon was great in regular aswell and only had a little buff from melee; he had speed, strength and a good jump not to mention one of the only spikes in the original.


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They killed Ness, the 2nd best character in the original, added Peach and Zelda, who suck, and made some characters(Captain Falcon, Roy, Mewtwo) way to good. The game was lopsided.
O your right the original was much better when they had easy infinite juggles. Jigglypuff had the cheapest and easiest K.O. ever. Ness wasn't killed in melee they just didn't buff him because he didn't need it. Peach is one of the best characters, I can't play her otherwise I'd show you but wow to say she sucks is a major understatement. Wow to be honest just you saying mewtwo was any good and the fact that you left out falco and fox being way too good makes your post look like a joke man. You didn't tackle any legitimate problems that were in melee. Zelda was a little slow but she wasn't bad. You didn't even list the actual worst character which was Bowser which was almost unplayable. C. Falcon was great in regular aswell and only had a little buff from melee; he had speed, strength and a good jump not to mention one of the only spikes in the original.



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No, they killed Ness. They destroyed his recovery, made his bat retarded (if you're offended by that word, I don't like it either but it's true) and I disagree about Fox but not Falco (who was a bit stronger and faster). And I forgot Bowser because I didn't realize he was actually a character; I thought he was an attack dummy. Sheik was very killable if you had a strong or fast character to match her. And Peach wasn't that good. The parasol was very useful and her smashes and side special weren't bad, but she was FAR too easy to kill.
No, they killed Ness. They destroyed his recovery, made his bat retarded (if you're offended by that word, I don't like it either but it's true) and I disagree about Fox but not Falco (who was a bit stronger and faster). And I forgot Bowser because I didn't realize he was actually a character; I thought he was an attack dummy. Sheik was very killable if you had a strong or fast character to match her. And Peach wasn't that good. The parasol was very useful and her smashes and side special weren't bad, but she was FAR too easy to kill.

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I tried Bowser out in Brawl and I'm not sure if he's considered sucky but I did pretty well with him, in previous games I sucked with him.

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Originally posted by ziggy
No, they killed Ness. They destroyed his recovery, made his bat retarded (if you're offended by that word, I don't like it either but it's true) and I disagree about Fox but not Falco (who was a bit stronger and faster). And I forgot Bowser because I didn't realize he was actually a character; I thought he was an attack dummy. Sheik was very killable if you had a strong or fast character to match her. And Peach wasn't that good. The parasol was very useful and her smashes and side special weren't bad, but she was FAR too easy to kill.
Peach's best special move was her radishes. Shiek was over powered because anyone could pick up a controller with him and do well and that goes the same for falco and fox. Ness's bat got the little debuff it needed because it was too strong in the original.

As for fox not being over powered. Show me a tournie where fox wasn' top 2.


Yes David they did make bg characters better for brawl :p


Originally posted by ziggy
No, they killed Ness. They destroyed his recovery, made his bat retarded (if you're offended by that word, I don't like it either but it's true) and I disagree about Fox but not Falco (who was a bit stronger and faster). And I forgot Bowser because I didn't realize he was actually a character; I thought he was an attack dummy. Sheik was very killable if you had a strong or fast character to match her. And Peach wasn't that good. The parasol was very useful and her smashes and side special weren't bad, but she was FAR too easy to kill.
Peach's best special move was her radishes. Shiek was over powered because anyone could pick up a controller with him and do well and that goes the same for falco and fox. Ness's bat got the little debuff it needed because it was too strong in the original.

As for fox not being over powered. Show me a tournie where fox wasn' top 2.


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I didn't say Fox wasn't, I just thought that he wasn't as unfair as Falco who was all-around better. It's not the power of Ness' bat, but the distance it hits you. It got messed up (even though a weak attack with the bat can knock somone off the stage). As for Peach, the radishes were strategic but not that much. Sheik could be one of those overused characters that anyone is good with but almost nobody can be great with. Kind of what I think Pit will be in Brawl.
I didn't say Fox wasn't, I just thought that he wasn't as unfair as Falco who was all-around better. It's not the power of Ness' bat, but the distance it hits you. It got messed up (even though a weak attack with the bat can knock somone off the stage). As for Peach, the radishes were strategic but not that much. Sheik could be one of those overused characters that anyone is good with but almost nobody can be great with. Kind of what I think Pit will be in Brawl.

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I guess they didn't really consider the fact that the weaknesses each character had would be effing enormous.
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Originally posted by ziggy
Yeah, but I think it would be more difficult with Zelda. She's much worse.

Zelda is a powerhouse generally. Sheik is used to build damage and Zelda is the knockout champ.

Edit and Ziggy: Most people that know Melee thought Roy was a bit of a letdown. If anything Marth was the one too powerful. Imo Roy wasn't that great. Look at how far Peach jumps.... Peach was decent in melee and I think she is better in Brawl.

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Yeah, but I think it would be more difficult with Zelda. She's much worse.

Zelda is a powerhouse generally. Sheik is used to build damage and Zelda is the knockout champ.

Edit and Ziggy: Most people that know Melee thought Roy was a bit of a letdown. If anything Marth was the one too powerful. Imo Roy wasn't that great. Look at how far Peach jumps.... Peach was decent in melee and I think she is better in Brawl.
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Yeah, it's up to the player now to determine if a character is strong or not. I guarantee you there is someone out there who can beat anyone in the world just with Jigglypuff or Pichu. [s
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Yeah, it's up to the player now to determine if a character is strong or not. I guarantee you there is someone out there who can beat anyone in the world just with Jigglypuff or Pichu. [s
Thats only half true. When it comes to competitive play certain characters are better.

BTW does anyone know why my edit post thing is a link to the zero suite samus bar? I mean its cool and all but... kinda wierd


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Thats only half true. When it comes to competitive play certain characters are better.

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umm, lbock Jpuff could pawn in melee. How do you think I beat event 51?
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They are just the char nobody uses so if I'm going to mess around and take pics I use them.

I got a couple of good shots of Marth Pawning Ike.

Edit: Once I add you guys I'll send you a replay of Peach in the Home Run contest.

They are just the char nobody uses so if I'm going to mess around and take pics I use them.

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Originally posted by MichaelVash7886
They are just the char nobody uses so if I'm going to mess around and take pics I use them.

I got a couple of good shots of Marth Pawning Ike.
Psssh Ice climbers rigged ftw. I mean come on double smash attacks hurt like hell lol.


And pssh Marth owning Ike? Pssh. I'll have to proove you wrong ^ ^


Originally posted by MichaelVash7886
They are just the char nobody uses so if I'm going to mess around and take pics I use them.

I got a couple of good shots of Marth Pawning Ike.
Psssh Ice climbers rigged ftw. I mean come on double smash attacks hurt like hell lol.


And pssh Marth owning Ike? Pssh. I'll have to proove you wrong ^ ^



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