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Al-Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden has been killed

 

05-01-11 10:51 PM
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legacyme3 : Well Al Qaeda could lie too. I mean, they could say he was dead just to make everyone think it. So that can't be a reliable source either.





legacyme3 : Well Al Qaeda could lie too. I mean, they could say he was dead just to make everyone think it. So that can't be a reliable source either.

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geeogree : i Would'nt say he doesn't believe or trust in anything... i think it takes more Concrete evidence to convince him so.

geeogree : i Would'nt say he doesn't believe or trust in anything... i think it takes more Concrete evidence to convince him so.

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I will be checking reputable news sources online in the coming days to follow up on this. Its breaking news over here. It is all very .. commotion causing...
I will be checking reputable news sources online in the coming days to follow up on this. Its breaking news over here. It is all very .. commotion causing...

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the US claims to have his body.... I expect in the next few days pictures will come out. If seeing a picture of his body isn't evidence enough for people then I don't think anything will be good enough.

    the US claims to have his body.... I expect in the next few days pictures will come out. If seeing a picture of his body isn't evidence enough for people then I don't think anything will be good enough.

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SunflowerGaming : Good point. Now that I think about it. If they lie. It could throw our troops in confusion leaving us vulnerable and if that happens. That could spell trouble for the troops and in ways I agree with Legacyme3. I have to see it to believe it. I never did like watching whats going on over there so I have little knowledge of whats going on over there. Its news like this that can throw people into chaos if this was a mere stunt to get people to believe he's really dead. I would have to see proof of his death and I highly doubt that the government will show us anytime soon.







SunflowerGaming : Good point. Now that I think about it. If they lie. It could throw our troops in confusion leaving us vulnerable and if that happens. That could spell trouble for the troops and in ways I agree with Legacyme3. I have to see it to believe it. I never did like watching whats going on over there so I have little knowledge of whats going on over there. Its news like this that can throw people into chaos if this was a mere stunt to get people to believe he's really dead. I would have to see proof of his death and I highly doubt that the government will show us anytime soon.

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Natas : Oh yeah of course, you can't believe everything that is told on the news, all I am saying is Al Qaeda could lie too. So what makes them the concrete evidence?





Natas : Oh yeah of course, you can't believe everything that is told on the news, all I am saying is Al Qaeda could lie too. So what makes them the concrete evidence?

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geeogree :

At this point, I want pictures. That would at least be enough to keep me somewhat convinced. pictures can be doctored, but if it's out there, then I'd have no choice but to accept a "truth" and live with my own thoughts.

Right now I may seem crazy or paranoid, but if pictures came out, that would ease it a little. Not completely, but a little.

geeogree :

At this point, I want pictures. That would at least be enough to keep me somewhat convinced. pictures can be doctored, but if it's out there, then I'd have no choice but to accept a "truth" and live with my own thoughts.

Right now I may seem crazy or paranoid, but if pictures came out, that would ease it a little. Not completely, but a little.

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Margoth : Margoth : Can you actually blame anyone for celebrating his death though, what about the family and the friends of the people who were murdered on 9/11? and celebrating the death of someone like him isn't hateful at all IMO it's more to do with the fact that justice has been served and the overwelming Joy, The man was pure evil and i won't deny it i was happy when i heard he was dead the world is better of without him and certainly won't miss him.

And the difference between your comparison is that he celebrated taking the life's of innocent people, the American people are celebrating the death of someone who was far from innocent and clearly deserved what he got.
Margoth : Margoth : Can you actually blame anyone for celebrating his death though, what about the family and the friends of the people who were murdered on 9/11? and celebrating the death of someone like him isn't hateful at all IMO it's more to do with the fact that justice has been served and the overwelming Joy, The man was pure evil and i won't deny it i was happy when i heard he was dead the world is better of without him and certainly won't miss him.

And the difference between your comparison is that he celebrated taking the life's of innocent people, the American people are celebrating the death of someone who was far from innocent and clearly deserved what he got.

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legacyme3 : of course pictures can be doctored.... anything COULD be changed or lied about, but to live in perpetual skepticism must be tiring.

    legacyme3 : of course pictures can be doctored.... anything COULD be changed or lied about, but to live in perpetual skepticism must be tiring.

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geeogree :

To be honest, yes it does. I don't like that I'm skeptical of everything.

It's just who I am.

I WANT to believe in God, but I can't do that, and for the same reasons, as much as I want to believe this, I can't.

I hate being skeptical (people think I'm insane), but it's not easy changing your life and or mental outlook.

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To be honest, yes it does. I don't like that I'm skeptical of everything.

It's just who I am.

I WANT to believe in God, but I can't do that, and for the same reasons, as much as I want to believe this, I can't.

I hate being skeptical (people think I'm insane), but it's not easy changing your life and or mental outlook.

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AndyGer : Yes i can, i dont believe Osama had anything to do with 9/11, and hey thats your opinion, he may have been pure evil, but i think the ending of his life was justice enough, im just saying that people like you that get a happy feeling over death, disgusts me, no matter who it is or what has been done. That difference may be so, but the celebration of death is exactly that, no matter how much the details change.

AndyGer : Yes i can, i dont believe Osama had anything to do with 9/11, and hey thats your opinion, he may have been pure evil, but i think the ending of his life was justice enough, im just saying that people like you that get a happy feeling over death, disgusts me, no matter who it is or what has been done. That difference may be so, but the celebration of death is exactly that, no matter how much the details change.

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AndyGer : do you think the men that trained him in military operations and coordination, the US military, should be held responsible for doing so? Do you have factual proof of Bin Laden's involvement in 9/11? Do you think the loss of human life is really something to cheer for any reason? Do you believe in karma? If being evil deserves death does Bush deserve death? Rush Limbaugh, Terry Jones, the Phelps family, Wall-Street investors, and who is to judge who lives and who dies?
AndyGer : do you think the men that trained him in military operations and coordination, the US military, should be held responsible for doing so? Do you have factual proof of Bin Laden's involvement in 9/11? Do you think the loss of human life is really something to cheer for any reason? Do you believe in karma? If being evil deserves death does Bush deserve death? Rush Limbaugh, Terry Jones, the Phelps family, Wall-Street investors, and who is to judge who lives and who dies?

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Margoth : I agree with AndyGer we dont judge a book by its cover but you can judge someone for their actions and Osama was pure evil. Also, if you are killing the leader at a war then of course you are going to celebrate.
Margoth : I agree with AndyGer we dont judge a book by its cover but you can judge someone for their actions and Osama was pure evil. Also, if you are killing the leader at a war then of course you are going to celebrate.

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JUNGLExMAN : can you explain the war he was a leader of? If you are referring to the "war on terror" are you saying that war is over and had only one clear enemy? As the cold war was a war without a real enemy, but a war against a belief(communism), the war on terror isn't a war on a clear enemy, but a war on a collective of radicals with no clear objectives or cause. He therefore could not be a leader of a group that doesn't have a central core since there is no world-wide terror network. James Bond took those out in the 60s and 70s, the only ones that existed, the movie kind.
JUNGLExMAN : can you explain the war he was a leader of? If you are referring to the "war on terror" are you saying that war is over and had only one clear enemy? As the cold war was a war without a real enemy, but a war against a belief(communism), the war on terror isn't a war on a clear enemy, but a war on a collective of radicals with no clear objectives or cause. He therefore could not be a leader of a group that doesn't have a central core since there is no world-wide terror network. James Bond took those out in the 60s and 70s, the only ones that existed, the movie kind.

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JUNGLExMAN : I said i agreed that he was pure evil.... and yes we did kill their leader, but I thought we celebrated our victory in the war meaning that the war was over, i dont believe we have a reason to celebrate yet, the war is not over, our soldiers are not back yet, they are still in a danger zone. and still It's my opinion on how i am disgusted by the celebrating of an evil act.

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Belegerbs : Does a war really have to have a title? If two or more countries are killing each other then its a war. And im not saying the war is over this is just a big turning point in the war.
Belegerbs : Does a war really have to have a title? If two or more countries are killing each other then its a war. And im not saying the war is over this is just a big turning point in the war.

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Al-Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden has been killed

At least 10 years, tens of thousands of innocent lives, hundreds of billions of dollars and who knows how many civil liberties and rights violations later...
Al-Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden has been killed

At least 10 years, tens of thousands of innocent lives, hundreds of billions of dollars and who knows how many civil liberties and rights violations later...

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JUNGLExMAN : but what war are you talking about? Where is this "war" taking place? The war in Afghanistan is against the Taliban, the people that allowed terror groups to train and take refuge in the country. Iraq was about WMD, then ousting Saddam, then about Democracy. Where is this war on terror being fought and who is this clearly defined enemy that he was the "leader" of? Wars are defined events, history tells us that, conflicts and skirmishes have clear actors and participants. Only since the Cold War has it been acceptable for a free society to fight a series of secret conflicts to enact political change.
JUNGLExMAN : but what war are you talking about? Where is this "war" taking place? The war in Afghanistan is against the Taliban, the people that allowed terror groups to train and take refuge in the country. Iraq was about WMD, then ousting Saddam, then about Democracy. Where is this war on terror being fought and who is this clearly defined enemy that he was the "leader" of? Wars are defined events, history tells us that, conflicts and skirmishes have clear actors and participants. Only since the Cold War has it been acceptable for a free society to fight a series of secret conflicts to enact political change.

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