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04-22-11 02:08 PM
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Okay, so, if we're gonna follow the corporate patterns here, with every generation eventually comes a remake of the games from 2 gens prior. This started during Generation 3, the "Advance Generation", in which Pokemon Red and Green, from the "Original Generation" were remade for the GBA and dubbed "FireRed and LeafGreen". Then, remakes appeared once again in the Fourth Gen, in the form of "HeartGold and SoulSilver" which was my first introduction to the series.

Now that the GBA is two generations old, I think that there will be something along the lines of "Burning Ruby" and "Marine Sapphire" for the Nintendo 3DS. However, corporate patterns can, and have been broken when it comes to Pokemon. Usually, you get a new generation of Pokemon games with every new handheld platform released by Nintendo, but obviously, Generation 5 broke this rule, as it was the second Generation to be released for the Nintendo DS platform.

Now, obviously we won't be seeing a remake anytime soon, but I think it will happen at some point. First, Game Freak will have to complete "Pokemon Gray" or whatever it will be called. Similar to Pokemon Versions Yellow, Crystal, Emerald, and Platinum. However, recently, IGN wanted to find out what was going on with Nintendo developers, so they investigated. And one of the companies they went in to find out about was Game Freak. It turns out, Game Freak isn't developing "Gray", OR a "BurningRuby/Marine Sapphire" game.

It's already apparently jumped the gun on developing Pokemon Generation 6. So, do you think we could be seeing a Gen 6 for 3DS without seeing Gray OR a Gen 3 remake?

Okay, so, if we're gonna follow the corporate patterns here, with every generation eventually comes a remake of the games from 2 gens prior. This started during Generation 3, the "Advance Generation", in which Pokemon Red and Green, from the "Original Generation" were remade for the GBA and dubbed "FireRed and LeafGreen". Then, remakes appeared once again in the Fourth Gen, in the form of "HeartGold and SoulSilver" which was my first introduction to the series.

Now that the GBA is two generations old, I think that there will be something along the lines of "Burning Ruby" and "Marine Sapphire" for the Nintendo 3DS. However, corporate patterns can, and have been broken when it comes to Pokemon. Usually, you get a new generation of Pokemon games with every new handheld platform released by Nintendo, but obviously, Generation 5 broke this rule, as it was the second Generation to be released for the Nintendo DS platform.

Now, obviously we won't be seeing a remake anytime soon, but I think it will happen at some point. First, Game Freak will have to complete "Pokemon Gray" or whatever it will be called. Similar to Pokemon Versions Yellow, Crystal, Emerald, and Platinum. However, recently, IGN wanted to find out what was going on with Nintendo developers, so they investigated. And one of the companies they went in to find out about was Game Freak. It turns out, Game Freak isn't developing "Gray", OR a "BurningRuby/Marine Sapphire" game.

It's already apparently jumped the gun on developing Pokemon Generation 6. So, do you think we could be seeing a Gen 6 for 3DS without seeing Gray OR a Gen 3 remake?

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I really doubt they will skip the remakes. The basic code is already done, they just have to translate it. Granted, that DOES take time, but it isn't like they have to write a story for the game or come up with a new generation of Pokemon for the remakes. I.E., it simply takes longer to make a new Gen game than it would take to make a remake. I think they're just getting a head-start, since making the remakes will be easier anyways.
I really doubt they will skip the remakes. The basic code is already done, they just have to translate it. Granted, that DOES take time, but it isn't like they have to write a story for the game or come up with a new generation of Pokemon for the remakes. I.E., it simply takes longer to make a new Gen game than it would take to make a remake. I think they're just getting a head-start, since making the remakes will be easier anyways.
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Do you think that if a Gen 3 remake came out, it would be on the DS (because B/W was on DS) or on 3DS?
Do you think that if a Gen 3 remake came out, it would be on the DS (because B/W was on DS) or on 3DS?
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I think they'd likely put it on 3DS, since the Nintendo DS is on its way out now and they'll begin slowing down on making new games for it. Plus, there have already been 7 Pokemon games on the DS (Diamond, Pearl, Platinum, HeartGold, SoulSilver, Black and White) and I doubt they'd end up putting out 2 more for it.

I'm thrilled for these remakes to come out, though. I really liked the original R/S.
I think they'd likely put it on 3DS, since the Nintendo DS is on its way out now and they'll begin slowing down on making new games for it. Plus, there have already been 7 Pokemon games on the DS (Diamond, Pearl, Platinum, HeartGold, SoulSilver, Black and White) and I doubt they'd end up putting out 2 more for it.

I'm thrilled for these remakes to come out, though. I really liked the original R/S.
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Also, I just posted a new thread explaining some new details on new Pokemon games. It turns out, that Generation 5 is going to be the shortest Generation in Pokemon history.

Original Generation had 4.
Second Generation had 3.
Advance Generation had 5.
Fourth Generation had 5.
Fifth Generation...

Two.

There will be NO THIRD GAME MADE for the fifth generation. This... this really strikes me as odd. Would R/S remakes be... the START of the sixth generation? Well, here's my theory. Before we see a Third Gen pair of remakes, I think we will see a sixth generation. I think on the 3DS we will see whatever they come up with next, a true 6th Gen, and THEN, after a third title, we will get Ruby/Sapphire Remakes.

Fifth gen has definitely been the weirdest of all generations. I think it broke traditions that it didn't necessarily have to break. First of all, it was released for the DS even though there was already a DS gen- there's intended to be new generations following every new handheld. You'd think Game Freak would have been smart enough to wait for the 3DS, but instead they jumped the gun.

Also, there will be no third title- no "Grey" or "Chrome" or "Marble" re-release. And, no remake, because if you look closely in the interview in which Grey was confirmed never to come out, they say "Black and White will be the end of this iteration of the series." meaning that it's the end of the generation, so any remakes will come in the sixth gen, NOT as part of the 5th gen.

Which would make it clear why Game Freak is ALREADY working on G6.

Either way, I'm hoping for a new Pokemon release as soon as possible. It looks like it will be awhile.
Also, I just posted a new thread explaining some new details on new Pokemon games. It turns out, that Generation 5 is going to be the shortest Generation in Pokemon history.

Original Generation had 4.
Second Generation had 3.
Advance Generation had 5.
Fourth Generation had 5.
Fifth Generation...

Two.

There will be NO THIRD GAME MADE for the fifth generation. This... this really strikes me as odd. Would R/S remakes be... the START of the sixth generation? Well, here's my theory. Before we see a Third Gen pair of remakes, I think we will see a sixth generation. I think on the 3DS we will see whatever they come up with next, a true 6th Gen, and THEN, after a third title, we will get Ruby/Sapphire Remakes.

Fifth gen has definitely been the weirdest of all generations. I think it broke traditions that it didn't necessarily have to break. First of all, it was released for the DS even though there was already a DS gen- there's intended to be new generations following every new handheld. You'd think Game Freak would have been smart enough to wait for the 3DS, but instead they jumped the gun.

Also, there will be no third title- no "Grey" or "Chrome" or "Marble" re-release. And, no remake, because if you look closely in the interview in which Grey was confirmed never to come out, they say "Black and White will be the end of this iteration of the series." meaning that it's the end of the generation, so any remakes will come in the sixth gen, NOT as part of the 5th gen.

Which would make it clear why Game Freak is ALREADY working on G6.

Either way, I'm hoping for a new Pokemon release as soon as possible. It looks like it will be awhile.
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The original generation didn't have 4, if I recall. Green doesn't count as a fourth. Our "green" version was Yellow or "Pikachu edition".

Advance generation didn't have 5. It was Ruby, Sapphire, Emerald. The Gamecube games don't really count--especially since you don't even get any gym badges.

Fourth generation didn't have 5. It had Diamond, Pearl, and Platinum. HeartGold and SoulSilver are 2nd-gen remakes with 4th-gen elements.

And there will likely be a third game made for the fifth generation. There's some Pokemon you cannot obtain in B/W that don't look like they're going to be obtainable in any events any time soon.

They already announced they're releasing a new Pokemon game on the 3DS (speculated to be part of the main games) so it's probably the 3rd version.
The original generation didn't have 4, if I recall. Green doesn't count as a fourth. Our "green" version was Yellow or "Pikachu edition".

Advance generation didn't have 5. It was Ruby, Sapphire, Emerald. The Gamecube games don't really count--especially since you don't even get any gym badges.

Fourth generation didn't have 5. It had Diamond, Pearl, and Platinum. HeartGold and SoulSilver are 2nd-gen remakes with 4th-gen elements.

And there will likely be a third game made for the fifth generation. There's some Pokemon you cannot obtain in B/W that don't look like they're going to be obtainable in any events any time soon.

They already announced they're releasing a new Pokemon game on the 3DS (speculated to be part of the main games) so it's probably the 3rd version.
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I heard that Iwata stated that he never said that. why wouldn't they? more money!


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Looking back at what they have already done, and knowing the fans, they probably will. Wait why do refer to remakes as generations??? I personally see each original as the one to define the generation, and remakes to be nice additions that allow for trading once again with the newer games, and the graphics are also a plus That being said it will follow the trend.
Looking back at what they have already done, and knowing the fans, they probably will. Wait why do refer to remakes as generations??? I personally see each original as the one to define the generation, and remakes to be nice additions that allow for trading once again with the newer games, and the graphics are also a plus That being said it will follow the trend.
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Too many fans are interested in it for them not to make it. They will severely disappoint many if they don't and I think they realize that. I too agree that R/S was a really good era, it introduced a lot of good features to us, namely Abilities. Abilities sort of revolutionized the gameplay.

As for 6th Gen, Im still focusing on 5th gen and there was what, a 2-3 year gap between DPPt and BW? That gives them ample time to create a remake
Too many fans are interested in it for them not to make it. They will severely disappoint many if they don't and I think they realize that. I too agree that R/S was a really good era, it introduced a lot of good features to us, namely Abilities. Abilities sort of revolutionized the gameplay.

As for 6th Gen, Im still focusing on 5th gen and there was what, a 2-3 year gap between DPPt and BW? That gives them ample time to create a remake
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iBOCK : I'll have to disagree on that. Red and Blue were released in Japan, but they were really buggy, so they released Green, which updated the graphics and fixed most of the bugs. Then, when the Anime became popular, they released Yellow, which was tweaked to follow the plot of the Anime closer.

When I said 5 in refference to the 3rd Gen, I was talking about Ruby, Sapphire, Emerald, FireRed, and LeafGreen. I've never even considered the GameCube games, actually

I guess you don't count the remakes as being part of a generation, but honestly, I do. I thought it was kinda the general consensus, but hey, maybe not.

My better judgement is telling me they'll probably make a third version, but... I have to take Game Freak's word for it. If they say there won't be one, I think there... well, just won't be one. Here's my theory.

I think Game Freak will skip on to Generation 6 and make the 3rd Gen remakes afterwards. And there IS reasoning to support this theory. Think about it. If Generation 5 had remakes of Gen 3, that means that Gen 6 would have remakes of Gen 4- and that would be utterly pointless. Gen 6 would come out for 3DS, and that means... Gen 4 remakes would come out for 3DS. Even though the original Gen 4 is still compatible with the 3DS. They'd have no reason to remake them aside from making them a bit shinier.

I thought the main reason for FireRed and LeafGreen was that you couldn't play the original Red/Blue on a current-gen system. When Silver and Gold came out, they had no reason to remake Red/Blue because you could still play GB games on a GBC. You could also play GBC games on a GBA, and still GBA games on a DS, and so HeartGold and SoulSilver came out. This way, all gens are available no matter what Nintendo system you have.
iBOCK : I'll have to disagree on that. Red and Blue were released in Japan, but they were really buggy, so they released Green, which updated the graphics and fixed most of the bugs. Then, when the Anime became popular, they released Yellow, which was tweaked to follow the plot of the Anime closer.

When I said 5 in refference to the 3rd Gen, I was talking about Ruby, Sapphire, Emerald, FireRed, and LeafGreen. I've never even considered the GameCube games, actually

I guess you don't count the remakes as being part of a generation, but honestly, I do. I thought it was kinda the general consensus, but hey, maybe not.

My better judgement is telling me they'll probably make a third version, but... I have to take Game Freak's word for it. If they say there won't be one, I think there... well, just won't be one. Here's my theory.

I think Game Freak will skip on to Generation 6 and make the 3rd Gen remakes afterwards. And there IS reasoning to support this theory. Think about it. If Generation 5 had remakes of Gen 3, that means that Gen 6 would have remakes of Gen 4- and that would be utterly pointless. Gen 6 would come out for 3DS, and that means... Gen 4 remakes would come out for 3DS. Even though the original Gen 4 is still compatible with the 3DS. They'd have no reason to remake them aside from making them a bit shinier.

I thought the main reason for FireRed and LeafGreen was that you couldn't play the original Red/Blue on a current-gen system. When Silver and Gold came out, they had no reason to remake Red/Blue because you could still play GB games on a GBC. You could also play GBC games on a GBA, and still GBA games on a DS, and so HeartGold and SoulSilver came out. This way, all gens are available no matter what Nintendo system you have.
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I'm closing this. Two reasons.

1. It's a dupe of an old thread.

2. It's not allowed in here. This is for discussion of the series, and pokemon discussions. The games are handled in video game franchises. As there is a post in there with it, i am closing this.
I'm closing this. Two reasons.

1. It's a dupe of an old thread.

2. It's not allowed in here. This is for discussion of the series, and pokemon discussions. The games are handled in video game franchises. As there is a post in there with it, i am closing this.
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