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How come when people, do something bad, or see something horrific, they say Jesus or Christ and maby even Jesus Christ. This is blasphemy... But why don't people say 'Buddha', 'Muhammad' or 'Baal'. Just a question I ask you's...
How come when people, do something bad, or see something horrific, they say Jesus or Christ and maby even Jesus Christ. This is blasphemy... But why don't people say 'Buddha', 'Muhammad' or 'Baal'. Just a question I ask you's...

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heh, maybe because there is no point.... you have to say a REAL God's name to blaspheme
heh, maybe because there is no point.... you have to say a REAL God's name to blaspheme

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that was great, geeogree


Yeah, it's just the devils way of getting us to sin on a daily basis
Other words would be
"Holy Crap"
"God d*mnit"
"Holy Sh*t"

Even using the Holy Spirits name in vain is also sinful...as the bible says, all sins are forgivable EXCEPT Blasphemy of the holy spirit.


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that was great, geeogree


Yeah, it's just the devils way of getting us to sin on a daily basis
Other words would be
"Holy Crap"
"God d*mnit"
"Holy Sh*t"

Even using the Holy Spirits name in vain is also sinful...as the bible says, all sins are forgivable EXCEPT Blasphemy of the holy spirit.




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Yea....... i guess that is bad.




Yea....... i guess that is bad.

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... but I thought that Jesus was the son of God not God himself. Just a thought.
... but I thought that Jesus was the son of God not God himself. Just a thought.

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Elara: trust me.... I've wondered why Christians don't get that either

either way, being the son of a God would still make you a God....
Elara: trust me.... I've wondered why Christians don't get that either

either way, being the son of a God would still make you a God....

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But then wouldn't Christianity be committing a sin by worshiping Jesus because of the whole "thou shalt have no god before me" commandment?

At least I know I'm not the only one that wonders why they don't get that.
But then wouldn't Christianity be committing a sin by worshiping Jesus because of the whole "thou shalt have no god before me" commandment?

At least I know I'm not the only one that wonders why they don't get that.

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Basically, Jesus is just God in a human form. God is Jesus, but Jesus is God's son, and yet they are one.


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Basically, Jesus is just God in a human form. God is Jesus, but Jesus is God's son, and yet they are one.





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Holy Father, Risen Son, Holy Spirit, three in one. It is called the Godhead as far as I understand. I forget where it is mentioned But all three are God and They are seperate but One at the same time. Will have to check that out when I get a chance.

Question do any of you know why Blasphemy against the Holy Spirit is the unforgiveable one and not Blasphemy against God or Jesus?
Holy Father, Risen Son, Holy Spirit, three in one. It is called the Godhead as far as I understand. I forget where it is mentioned But all three are God and They are seperate but One at the same time. Will have to check that out when I get a chance.

Question do any of you know why Blasphemy against the Holy Spirit is the unforgiveable one and not Blasphemy against God or Jesus?

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Yes, they are 3 in one

And to your question, I've heard the answer mentioned before, but I do not know the answer


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Yes, they are 3 in one

And to your question, I've heard the answer mentioned before, but I do not know the answer




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Think of it this way, Elara. God is similar to the Goddess in having three forms, youth, middle age, and crone.
Think of it this way, Elara. God is similar to the Goddess in having three forms, youth, middle age, and crone.

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Vash: it's all in the purpose that each serves...

the Father is the Creator, the Son is the Redeemer, and the Holy Spirit is the Revelator...

to see Jesus doesn't then dictate total belief...

however, to be taught and instructed by the Holy Spirit until you understand God's entire plan, like say John the Revelator might have, or some of the old testament prophets might have.... and then to turn around and flat out deny what you now know without any doubt.... that is what Blasphemy, or denying, the Holy Spirit is to me

Vash: it's all in the purpose that each serves...

the Father is the Creator, the Son is the Redeemer, and the Holy Spirit is the Revelator...

to see Jesus doesn't then dictate total belief...

however, to be taught and instructed by the Holy Spirit until you understand God's entire plan, like say John the Revelator might have, or some of the old testament prophets might have.... and then to turn around and flat out deny what you now know without any doubt.... that is what Blasphemy, or denying, the Holy Spirit is to me



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I think Blasphemy is purposly and directly insulting someone.

For instance, if someone is just sitting their swearing directly at the holy spirit and showing hatred toward it, their probably goin to hell.




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I think Blasphemy is purposly and directly insulting someone.

For instance, if someone is just sitting their swearing directly at the holy spirit and showing hatred toward it, their probably goin to hell.







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Originally posted by geeogree

however, to be taught and instructed by the Holy Spirit until you understand God's entire plan, like say John the Revelator might have, or some of the old testament prophets might have.... and then to turn around and flat out deny what you now know without any doubt.... that is what Blasphemy, or denying, the Holy Spirit is to me



IThe way I have understood it as well is that the Holy Spirit dwells within you. So if you deny the Holy Spirit you deny the part of God that is inside of you. I was asking to see if anyone else knew why.
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however, to be taught and instructed by the Holy Spirit until you understand God's entire plan, like say John the Revelator might have, or some of the old testament prophets might have.... and then to turn around and flat out deny what you now know without any doubt.... that is what Blasphemy, or denying, the Holy Spirit is to me



IThe way I have understood it as well is that the Holy Spirit dwells within you. So if you deny the Holy Spirit you deny the part of God that is inside of you. I was asking to see if anyone else knew why.

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well, that's not too far off of what I was saying....

to have the Holy Spirit in you means that it can instruct you.... and to deny it basically means you cut off the connection to God...

I could have explained further, I just didn't want to take the time
well, that's not too far off of what I was saying....

to have the Holy Spirit in you means that it can instruct you.... and to deny it basically means you cut off the connection to God...

I could have explained further, I just didn't want to take the time

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Oh I'm with I know what you are saying. Just for some who don't I was just saying what you said in different words.
Oh I'm with I know what you are saying. Just for some who don't I was just saying what you said in different words.



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The father the son and the holy spirit are all god, seperate yet the same being. Jesus and the holy spirit existed before god created the world. This falls in line with the Assembely of God doctrine as well as most evangelical churches.

About the blasphemy of the Holy spirit.. I've been told they weren't taking it in vain or even pretending to speak in tounges. Instead it somone who repents from a sin and asks forgiveness and help with the sin and doesn't really mean it. Asking god for help just to get to heaven, or not really mean what your saying and know ing your not even going to try to get with the gameplan. Slightly more confusing than I want it to be.
The father the son and the holy spirit are all god, seperate yet the same being. Jesus and the holy spirit existed before god created the world. This falls in line with the Assembely of God doctrine as well as most evangelical churches.

About the blasphemy of the Holy spirit.. I've been told they weren't taking it in vain or even pretending to speak in tounges. Instead it somone who repents from a sin and asks forgiveness and help with the sin and doesn't really mean it. Asking god for help just to get to heaven, or not really mean what your saying and know ing your not even going to try to get with the gameplan. Slightly more confusing than I want it to be.

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why do you guys spell out "The father the son and the holy spirit"? isn't it called the Trinity?
why do you guys spell out "The father the son and the holy spirit"? isn't it called the Trinity?

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I don't say Trinity because I the Trinity has connotations attached to it that I don't agree with
I don't say Trinity because I the Trinity has connotations attached to it that I don't agree with

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I didn't say the trinity because I was tryin to be specific with what I was saying and didn't want it to be more muddled than it was. I could have called it the Trinity though.
I didn't say the trinity because I was tryin to be specific with what I was saying and didn't want it to be more muddled than it was. I could have called it the Trinity though.

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