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The Jynx Controversy

 

07-06-10 07:41 PM
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Just read this. Quoted from Bulbapedia:

Controversy

Jynx originally bore a striking, but possibly coincidental, resemblance to entertainers in blackface. A strong case can be made for Jynx being a parody of or homage to the Japanese Ganguro and Yamanba fashion trends, which were extremely popular when Pokémon was first released, but it can't be denied that blackface-influenced characters have appeared elsewhere in anime and manga - examples can be found near the beginning of Osamu Tezuka's early graphic novel, Metropolis and also can be found with Dragon Ball Z's Mr. Popo.

As Pokémon became more popular in the US, this perceived similarity to a racist image from America's past offended some. In particular, it had offended children's book author Carole Boston Weatherford, who accused Jynx of being a racist stereotype in an article titled "Politically Incorrect Pokémon" in the magazine Black World Today, shortly after the anime episode Holiday Hi-Jynx aired. Episodes that contained Jynx in its original design were left unaired outside of Japan, including EP250 and portions of All Things Bright and Beautifly.

In response to this controversy, Nintendo changed Jynx's hands from dark blue to purple and its face from black to purple in Pokémon games, including in the English and international versions of Pokémon Gold, Silver, and Crystal. Jynx has appeared since using its new design with no problems. However, in the Who's That Pokémon? section of It's Mr. Mime Time, Jynx appears with its original colorings.

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Just read this. Quoted from Bulbapedia:

Controversy

Jynx originally bore a striking, but possibly coincidental, resemblance to entertainers in blackface. A strong case can be made for Jynx being a parody of or homage to the Japanese Ganguro and Yamanba fashion trends, which were extremely popular when Pokémon was first released, but it can't be denied that blackface-influenced characters have appeared elsewhere in anime and manga - examples can be found near the beginning of Osamu Tezuka's early graphic novel, Metropolis and also can be found with Dragon Ball Z's Mr. Popo.

As Pokémon became more popular in the US, this perceived similarity to a racist image from America's past offended some. In particular, it had offended children's book author Carole Boston Weatherford, who accused Jynx of being a racist stereotype in an article titled "Politically Incorrect Pokémon" in the magazine Black World Today, shortly after the anime episode Holiday Hi-Jynx aired. Episodes that contained Jynx in its original design were left unaired outside of Japan, including EP250 and portions of All Things Bright and Beautifly.

In response to this controversy, Nintendo changed Jynx's hands from dark blue to purple and its face from black to purple in Pokémon games, including in the English and international versions of Pokémon Gold, Silver, and Crystal. Jynx has appeared since using its new design with no problems. However, in the Who's That Pokémon? section of It's Mr. Mime Time, Jynx appears with its original colorings.

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It's rather sad that people would get offended by a pokemon. I get the point of being angry over blackface but jeez. The only reason anything is racist is because some a-hole used a word or, in this case, facepaint wrong.
It's rather sad that people would get offended by a pokemon. I get the point of being angry over blackface but jeez. The only reason anything is racist is because some a-hole used a word or, in this case, facepaint wrong.
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Just shows what today's people can be like, I mean it is POKEMON darn it! I highly doubt the animators were going for a racist showing of a pokemon.
Just shows what today's people can be like, I mean it is POKEMON darn it! I highly doubt the animators were going for a racist showing of a pokemon.
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Jumpman12 : Not only that, but the creators are Japanese... why would they know anything about this?
Jumpman12 : Not only that, but the creators are Japanese... why would they know anything about this?
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bigNATE : Haha, well said Nate. The japanese aren't that influenced by our racist ways. Which sounds worse than what I mean. But the likelihood of the creators to look up Blackface and then go out and create a character SOLELY for the purpose of being racist is highly unlikely.
bigNATE : Haha, well said Nate. The japanese aren't that influenced by our racist ways. Which sounds worse than what I mean. But the likelihood of the creators to look up Blackface and then go out and create a character SOLELY for the purpose of being racist is highly unlikely.
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Quote by me from https://www.vizzed.com/vizzedboard/thread.php?id=10492&pl=159684

"There's a list of banned episodes at http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Banned_episodes
There are some really rediculous reasons for banning some of them, like saying that Jynx is a stereotype of black women
People are such idots..."

I still say that. But unfortunately one extremist can ruin things for alot of people, just be glad they didnt destroy Jynx completely.
People like that woman are always playing the race card just for attention, it's sickening.
The stupid cow should have taken it as a compliment instead, because if Jynx is a black woman then she's fairly popular and powerful, so I dont see how it's an insult.

(Sarcasm follows)
Oh wait, Pokemon are slaves arnt they, so it is saying black people should be slaves.
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"There's a list of banned episodes at http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Banned_episodes
There are some really rediculous reasons for banning some of them, like saying that Jynx is a stereotype of black women
People are such idots..."

I still say that. But unfortunately one extremist can ruin things for alot of people, just be glad they didnt destroy Jynx completely.
People like that woman are always playing the race card just for attention, it's sickening.
The stupid cow should have taken it as a compliment instead, because if Jynx is a black woman then she's fairly popular and powerful, so I dont see how it's an insult.

(Sarcasm follows)
Oh wait, Pokemon are slaves arnt they, so it is saying black people should be slaves.
(rolls eyes)
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DarkHyren : Oh god, we use pokemon to battle each other like dog fights. We capture them like animals and slaves. We use them to have our own financial and status gain. Crap, look at all of this evil we brought into the world.

Haha, please.
DarkHyren : Oh god, we use pokemon to battle each other like dog fights. We capture them like animals and slaves. We use them to have our own financial and status gain. Crap, look at all of this evil we brought into the world.

Haha, please.
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bigNATE : Yeah, Japanese people don't know anything about American culture or even the concept of racism. That's just plain silly.

Seriously, if comedians can find penises in Yu-Gi-Oh then people looking for reasons to sue will find anything they want to in Pokemon. I seriously doubt Jynx is supposed to be racist, and even if it is Mr. Mime should totally make up for it.

Actually, that's an excellent point. Why is no one complaining that the white Pokemon is depicted as a total moron who waves his hands in front of imaginary walls?
bigNATE : Yeah, Japanese people don't know anything about American culture or even the concept of racism. That's just plain silly.

Seriously, if comedians can find penises in Yu-Gi-Oh then people looking for reasons to sue will find anything they want to in Pokemon. I seriously doubt Jynx is supposed to be racist, and even if it is Mr. Mime should totally make up for it.

Actually, that's an excellent point. Why is no one complaining that the white Pokemon is depicted as a total moron who waves his hands in front of imaginary walls?
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Crawldragon : Hm, I know why no one cared that Ash was a total 10 year old white moron. You literally can not hurt a white guys feelings. Lol, may sound stupid, but think about it.
Crawldragon : Hm, I know why no one cared that Ash was a total 10 year old white moron. You literally can not hurt a white guys feelings. Lol, may sound stupid, but think about it.
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So they made Jynx's skin purple? Now Friezas whole family is complaining about racism greeeaat.....
So they made Jynx's skin purple? Now Friezas whole family is complaining about racism greeeaat.....
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Crawldragon : Because white people aren't morons that wave their hands in front of imaginary walls?

Anywho, back to moving my hands in front of.......this box.....yeah, that's it.......
Crawldragon : Because white people aren't morons that wave their hands in front of imaginary walls?

Anywho, back to moving my hands in front of.......this box.....yeah, that's it.......
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Sometimes people overreact, it's a creature, not one of those preformers/people themselves, if we stopped making Africans different by putting extreme emphisis on how much the same they are, then we'd all be much happier.

DarkHyren : Can you move this to Video Game Controversy? Or should it stay here?

BTW, my spellcheck isn't working right now because I'm on a different computer.
Sometimes people overreact, it's a creature, not one of those preformers/people themselves, if we stopped making Africans different by putting extreme emphisis on how much the same they are, then we'd all be much happier.

DarkHyren : Can you move this to Video Game Controversy? Or should it stay here?

BTW, my spellcheck isn't working right now because I'm on a different computer.
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alexanyways : well it's still Pokemon centered so it will get a better amount of posts in here.

You know, I'm surprised the mime union hasnt complained about Mr. Mime yet, of course maybe the have but we cant tell...

~pictures a mime in Nintendos office making gestures frantically and pretending to be in a box and no one knows what he wants~
alexanyways : well it's still Pokemon centered so it will get a better amount of posts in here.

You know, I'm surprised the mime union hasnt complained about Mr. Mime yet, of course maybe the have but we cant tell...

~pictures a mime in Nintendos office making gestures frantically and pretending to be in a box and no one knows what he wants~
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Ya'know I still can't beleive no one has complained about the new Whitch Pokemon yet. I mean Not all pink coloured people are witches!
Ya'know I still can't beleive no one has complained about the new Whitch Pokemon yet. I mean Not all pink coloured people are witches!
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Well it was racist but thats why i was happy when they changed her face to purple
Well it was racist but thats why i was happy when they changed her face to purple
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