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12-08-04 03:04 PM
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I have suspected voter fraud in this last election since November 3rd and it seems the smoking gun has finally come out. In a sworn affidavit, a programmer testifies that he was comissioned to make a vote rigging program by a Florida Republican congressman. I have a feeling you'll be hearing a lot more about this in the news soon. Here's the affidavit if you wish to read it (requires Acrobat Reader):

http://www.buzzflash.com/alerts/04/12/images/CC_Affidavit_120604.pdf

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I have suspected voter fraud in this last election since November 3rd and it seems the smoking gun has finally come out. In a sworn affidavit, a programmer testifies that he was comissioned to make a vote rigging program by a Florida Republican congressman. I have a feeling you'll be hearing a lot more about this in the news soon. Here's the affidavit if you wish to read it (requires Acrobat Reader):

http://www.buzzflash.com/alerts/04/12/images/CC_Affidavit_120604.pdf

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Wow, thats shocking/sad to hear. Any news on how this will affect the results?
Wow, thats shocking/sad to hear. Any news on how this will affect the results?
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Well, it depends how people interpret it. If he gets debunked as a phony, then obviously nothing will happen. But several technical points of his have already been proven. We've also got the Green/Libertarian recount in Ohio going forward so I figure this story can't be smothered from the news media forever.
Well, it depends how people interpret it. If he gets debunked as a phony, then obviously nothing will happen. But several technical points of his have already been proven. We've also got the Green/Libertarian recount in Ohio going forward so I figure this story can't be smothered from the news media forever.
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I haven't seen anything on the news about this yet, so I'm gonna remain skeptical until I do.
I haven't seen anything on the news about this yet, so I'm gonna remain skeptical until I do.
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Well, there have been several "rogue journalists" who still have some shard of investigative integrity who have been following the voter fraud story. Most notably Keith Olberman of MSNBC.
Well, there have been several "rogue journalists" who still have some shard of investigative integrity who have been following the voter fraud story. Most notably Keith Olberman of MSNBC.
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You have any more links I can take a look at? This might be interesting to read about.
You have any more links I can take a look at? This might be interesting to read about.
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Here's Olbermann's most recent entry:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6210240/

His archives are worth reading as well.
Here's Olbermann's most recent entry:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6210240/

His archives are worth reading as well.
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Personally i think this is just some mad liberals on a rampage. You and i both know that the election was closely monitored by OUT OF COUNTRY workers. This has little to no bases. It is propaganda. Theorys. And lies. You can't just say stuff and expect people to believe them. Your not john kerry (OOOO BURN ON KERRY!)
Personally i think this is just some mad liberals on a rampage. You and i both know that the election was closely monitored by OUT OF COUNTRY workers. This has little to no bases. It is propaganda. Theorys. And lies. You can't just say stuff and expect people to believe them. Your not john kerry (OOOO BURN ON KERRY!)
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Um, I hate to say this, but you're wrong. The programmer was a lifelong Republican. Also, if you actually read anything the international observers said, you would have read that they said that elections in Florida were less organized and more likely for fraud than elections in Kazakhistan. Several of the technical aspects of this guy's claim have already been proven and the national media is already picking up on it. He just gave his first interview on Air America Radio and you can listen to it here:

http://airamericaradio.com/layout.asp?baseurl=Unfiltered/12-08-04/Unfiltered.wma
Um, I hate to say this, but you're wrong. The programmer was a lifelong Republican. Also, if you actually read anything the international observers said, you would have read that they said that elections in Florida were less organized and more likely for fraud than elections in Kazakhistan. Several of the technical aspects of this guy's claim have already been proven and the national media is already picking up on it. He just gave his first interview on Air America Radio and you can listen to it here:

http://airamericaradio.com/layout.asp?baseurl=Unfiltered/12-08-04/Unfiltered.wma
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What, just THIS election?

They do realize that nobody VOTED for Bush in 2000, right? He LOST.
What, just THIS election?

They do realize that nobody VOTED for Bush in 2000, right? He LOST.
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I realize that Lowell. I'm just trying to prevent it from happening twice in a row.
I realize that Lowell. I'm just trying to prevent it from happening twice in a row.
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No he won. I'm going to crate a thread about the electoral college now.
No he won. I'm going to crate a thread about the electoral college now.
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Right. You do that. But to get back on topic. Does anyone have any questions or concerns about the veracity of the programmers claims? I'll be happy to explain.
Right. You do that. But to get back on topic. Does anyone have any questions or concerns about the veracity of the programmers claims? I'll be happy to explain.
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Um i have a question. How can you spit out this thoery like it is fact?
Um i have a question. How can you spit out this thoery like it is fact?
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I also have a question. Do you ever make a point of your own? Or do you just question and disregard everything you disagree with?

I've never once passed it off as fact. In fact, in my second post I said: "If he gets debunked as a phony, then obviously nothing will happen."

I'm just saying that it is incredibly suspicious and worthy of an indepth investigation.
I also have a question. Do you ever make a point of your own? Or do you just question and disregard everything you disagree with?

I've never once passed it off as fact. In fact, in my second post I said: "If he gets debunked as a phony, then obviously nothing will happen."

I'm just saying that it is incredibly suspicious and worthy of an indepth investigation.
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Oh so basicly you are having problems with no answers? I had my points and i pointed them out. These are lies. They are not true. And no matter how much you want to deny it i am correct.
Oh so basicly you are having problems with no answers? I had my points and i pointed them out. These are lies. They are not true. And no matter how much you want to deny it i am correct.
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No John, no you didnt.

I make a statement or point. I back it up with facts, sources, or similar opinion from others.

You say something and expect it to be taken as law in a short, abrupt, and ignorant fashion.
No John, no you didnt.

I make a statement or point. I back it up with facts, sources, or similar opinion from others.

You say something and expect it to be taken as law in a short, abrupt, and ignorant fashion.
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I'm done in here. I believe you and your sources are telling lies and propaganda. Since you were unable to understand my points i will spell them you

Y-O-U-R A-R-G-U-M-E-N-T I-S L-I-E-S
I'm done in here. I believe you and your sources are telling lies and propaganda. Since you were unable to understand my points i will spell them you

Y-O-U-R A-R-G-U-M-E-N-T I-S L-I-E-S
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Wow, quite articulate. I'm suprised that Florida got away with what they did a second time, sans the hanging chads. There seems to be a strong republican surge across the country, however locally all the epople I've discussed the topic with are democratic or libertarian. What confuses me is how conservative "information" is not exposed for the propaganda that it is. I have a question for John. How big is your local population?
Wow, quite articulate. I'm suprised that Florida got away with what they did a second time, sans the hanging chads. There seems to be a strong republican surge across the country, however locally all the epople I've discussed the topic with are democratic or libertarian. What confuses me is how conservative "information" is not exposed for the propaganda that it is. I have a question for John. How big is your local population?
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Localy we are around 3,750 but we are in a suburb area of Minneapolis/St. Paul
Localy we are around 3,750 but we are in a suburb area of Minneapolis/St. Paul
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