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Tom is having some difficulties with the RGR Plugin. These delays are completely out of my control and I apologize for them.

Here's his latest message to me:

"Sorry I've been lagging. Still feeling overwhelmed. I've done some more work, but I'm worried I should change approach how I do the code.

I was going to use a program called Websockify to help get this all working, but I'm bummed it gets detected as a virus by AVG and probably other antivirus programs. The AVG popup lets you add an exception to allow it to work, but I worry to instruct your users to do this for all common antivirus software isn't acceptable and I need to do the code without Websockify. I'm thinking the code I have in mind will work decent enough, but it's polling based instead of event based and it may lag a little bit like with the loading progress bar.

What do you think? Is the antivirus exception rule unacceptable?"


I had replied and suggested that maybe we embed Firefox version 42 (specifically, the portable version) into the plugin so that when someone plays a game, the game opens up in a window within that version of Firefox since that version of Firefox supports NPAPI, one of the technologies that can help make the RGR Plugin work.

In the mean time, you guys can use FireFox Portable 42 to play the RGR Plugin. It requires no installation. You can get it here:
https://www.vizzed.com/FirefoxPortable_42.0_English.paf.exe
 
Tom is having some difficulties with the RGR Plugin. These delays are completely out of my control and I apologize for them.

Here's his latest message to me:

"Sorry I've been lagging. Still feeling overwhelmed. I've done some more work, but I'm worried I should change approach how I do the code.

I was going to use a program called Websockify to help get this all working, but I'm bummed it gets detected as a virus by AVG and probably other antivirus programs. The AVG popup lets you add an exception to allow it to work, but I worry to instruct your users to do this for all common antivirus software isn't acceptable and I need to do the code without Websockify. I'm thinking the code I have in mind will work decent enough, but it's polling based instead of event based and it may lag a little bit like with the loading progress bar.

What do you think? Is the antivirus exception rule unacceptable?"


I had replied and suggested that maybe we embed Firefox version 42 (specifically, the portable version) into the plugin so that when someone plays a game, the game opens up in a window within that version of Firefox since that version of Firefox supports NPAPI, one of the technologies that can help make the RGR Plugin work.

In the mean time, you guys can use FireFox Portable 42 to play the RGR Plugin. It requires no installation. You can get it here:
https://www.vizzed.com/FirefoxPortable_42.0_English.paf.exe

 
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I personally think that might be a good idea for an easy fix.

My only concern could Mozilla come after you if they find out their product is being bundled into something else?
I personally think that might be a good idea for an easy fix.

My only concern could Mozilla come after you if they find out their product is being bundled into something else?

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pokemon x : It is a free product so I don't think it'd be an issue. It's also a version that's 4 years old.
 
pokemon x : It is a free product so I don't think it'd be an issue. It's also a version that's 4 years old.

 
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firefox portable 42 is that for mozilla firefox only but not for chrome?
firefox portable 42 is that for mozilla firefox only but not for chrome?

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DJ Styles : I did a little research for David unsure if he has looked into it actually..

But supposedly google chrome has dropped support at version 45 so if he uses a portable version of 44 and behind maybe chrome could also be used. I just wonder would it be possible to select between the two based on preference?

Secondary problem david might not like is that you have to get the portable from a 3rd party since google disables downloads for older versions especially since this one is over 5 years old..(But I do got a link if he wants one)

Edit. Got an older version running but every tab crashes resulting in it not being usable unsure why.

Double Edit. Got an even older version running but it still requires adobe flash to be installed. 2nd problem I am seeing it is that the plugin is stuck on "Vizzed plugin init script starting"
DJ Styles : I did a little research for David unsure if he has looked into it actually..

But supposedly google chrome has dropped support at version 45 so if he uses a portable version of 44 and behind maybe chrome could also be used. I just wonder would it be possible to select between the two based on preference?

Secondary problem david might not like is that you have to get the portable from a 3rd party since google disables downloads for older versions especially since this one is over 5 years old..(But I do got a link if he wants one)

Edit. Got an older version running but every tab crashes resulting in it not being usable unsure why.

Double Edit. Got an even older version running but it still requires adobe flash to be installed. 2nd problem I am seeing it is that the plugin is stuck on "Vizzed plugin init script starting"

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Speaking about that virus detection by AVG David, there's something you should tell your friend Tom about AVG anti-virus as it, along with Avast (who it's partnered with) have been discovered committing a fraudulent act of spying on users data when they used either Avast or it's partner AVG, so you might want to tell him to delete it because not only may it detect viruses incorrectly, but it even broke privacy rights regulations for its customers.

This scandal has been the rage recently and because of that, those companies are under investigation as a result. It was rather shocking when I found out but you can read the information here if it helpshttps://www.wired.co.uk/article/avg-privacy-policy-browser-search-data#:~:text=Security%20firm%20AVG%20can%20sell,be%20sold%20to%20third%20parties.]
A real shocker if I say so myself, goes to show you can't even trust some anti-virus softwares nowadays which is very ironic.

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Speaking about that virus detection by AVG David, there's something you should tell your friend Tom about AVG anti-virus as it, along with Avast (who it's partnered with) have been discovered committing a fraudulent act of spying on users data when they used either Avast or it's partner AVG, so you might want to tell him to delete it because not only may it detect viruses incorrectly, but it even broke privacy rights regulations for its customers.

This scandal has been the rage recently and because of that, those companies are under investigation as a result. It was rather shocking when I found out but you can read the information here if it helpshttps://www.wired.co.uk/article/avg-privacy-policy-browser-search-data#:~:text=Security%20firm%20AVG%20can%20sell,be%20sold%20to%20third%20parties.]
A real shocker if I say so myself, goes to show you can't even trust some anti-virus softwares nowadays which is very ironic.

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If you are looking for portable browsers with flash/npapi support i think i help with that i found these on the internet archive and they immune to the adobe flash shutdown.

here is the one for firefox and chrome portable versions + flash:

https://archive.org/details/Firefox_Chrome_Adobe_Flash

and here is Balsilisk with flash:

https://archive.org/details/basilisk-portable-with-flash

i hope this helps anyone who needs to use flash/npapi plugins i am sure that rgr plugin will run in these portable browsers just like flash does.
If you are looking for portable browsers with flash/npapi support i think i help with that i found these on the internet archive and they immune to the adobe flash shutdown.

here is the one for firefox and chrome portable versions + flash:

https://archive.org/details/Firefox_Chrome_Adobe_Flash

and here is Balsilisk with flash:

https://archive.org/details/basilisk-portable-with-flash

i hope this helps anyone who needs to use flash/npapi plugins i am sure that rgr plugin will run in these portable browsers just like flash does.

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I'm pretty sure that when I came here as a kid, my anti-virus detected the plugin anyway, and that didn't stop me from installing it. So naturally, I'd assume that many people would probably be fine if that's the only option, I was a cautious kid generally.

Of course, the best option would certainly be the one that doesn't require something like that, however in this day and age performance is highly valued. I'm very interested in the Firefox embed idea however.

I'm pretty sure that when I came here as a kid, my anti-virus detected the plugin anyway, and that didn't stop me from installing it. So naturally, I'd assume that many people would probably be fine if that's the only option, I was a cautious kid generally.

Of course, the best option would certainly be the one that doesn't require something like that, however in this day and age performance is highly valued. I'm very interested in the Firefox embed idea however.

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computernorman12 : I looked into your chrome suggestion and vizzed sees it as a browser that doesn't support flash. I see that flash is enabled and even made sure of it.

I also don't think that version of it recognizes the plugin. Couldn't find it anywhere on it even though I have it installed.
computernorman12 : I looked into your chrome suggestion and vizzed sees it as a browser that doesn't support flash. I see that flash is enabled and even made sure of it.

I also don't think that version of it recognizes the plugin. Couldn't find it anywhere on it even though I have it installed.

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