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11-01-17 03:03 AM
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I was trying to play the re-translated version of Chrono Trigger since it's been well over half a decade since I played the original English version on here & noticed that I am unable to load a save state. When I try, the graphics become glitched & the game stops responding. I only had the problem with ZSNES on both the re-translation, & the original English translation of Chrono Trigger & had this problem, but didn't have this problem with Mednafen. I'm using Google Chrome if that helps. -------------------- |
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Titan127 : 1) I said he could against Recoome,but not against Beerus because he wasn't used to having god ki. 2)If particles colliding hard enough can create mini black holes,they would be able to do that during collisions. 3)No I didn't,I pointed out that it didn't even do that before Goku was able to do that,which wasn't until King Piccolo.Reread my comment. Meh,that's fine. 2)If particles colliding hard enough can create mini black holes,they would be able to do that during collisions. 3)No I didn't,I pointed out that it didn't even do that before Goku was able to do that,which wasn't until King Piccolo.Reread my comment. Meh,that's fine. -------------------- |
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07-08-16 10:14 PM
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Titan127 : Again,look at the evidence I provided.There is plenty of evidence that shows that Superman doesn't stand a chance.No it doesn't,where does it start to push upwards like plasma?In the video you linked,he shows that when plasma clashes,they force each other upwards,ki doesn't do that,not even during the 1st beam battle,which was before Goku showed the ability to effect the direction of his Kamehameha.How does it mean nothing when it's never refereed to as plasma,& only as energy?That is nothing more than an assumption.Gero clearly did studies,& they still called it energy.Stars need a lot of hydrogen to do nuclear fusion(as the link I gave mentioned),there is nothing to suggests they'd have that,if it were plasma,but again,it isn't.Also you seem to be ignoring the fact that Superman draws power from stars,yet supernovas can hurt most versions of him.Yet the very video you brought up mentioned that very thing,yet it's only ludicrous when I mention it?Your point?The anime is canon as Super has characters that were anime only & even use stock footage from the anime.What I was referring to was when he took out Recoome(you see the shockwaves focused on Recoome & they don't leave his body or show up outside his body),what you're referring to was when Burter & Jeice were confused that their scouters told them he only had 5,000.It's because he wasn't use to his god form.Goku even stated early in the fight that his new power was hard to control,so no,it's not a contradiction. -------------------- |
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07-08-16 06:14 PM
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Titan127 : Again,there is evidence showing that Goku is much stronger.You shouldn't say one character can beat another character without at least trying to argue with it if you're going to go against it.No,it isn't.It was stated that 19 & 20 absorb ki,not matter,& 19 absorbed Goku's Kamehameha.Not to mention the fact if ki attacks were plasma,they'd have so much of it they'd become black holes considering their ki attacks are great enough to wipe out a universe(referring to Goku vs Beerus where that was stated).Not to mention he showed that plasma pushes upwards when it collides & pushes against the other,while ki attacks do nothing of the sort.He shot his own hypothesis in the foot when he showed that.Having energy in it doesn't change that fact that would be throwing matter,not energy,& it stated their ki attacks,not plasma attacks.It's called fiction,which also has something to it called suspension of disbelief.No,the solar energy comes from the sun producing elements through nuclear fusion. http://www.universetoday.com/75803/how-does-the-sun-produce-energy/ It would not produce the same effects of a star,especially since it's just energy,not plasma.Op how?There are plenty of times he's needed help,or just luck to get out of a bad situation.He's only OP compared to characters like Naruto.No he doesn't,you clearly didn't look at the evidence,which debunked that(video labeled "April 13,2014" in green toward the bottom under "battle").Also it wasn't a galaxy,it was some planets in a dead solar system,& that happened because of Mxy's 5D magic powder.He can destroy universes with just a punch,& Fat Buu had to be warned to be careful by Babidi,or he'd destroy Earth by exhaling too hard,& considering how strong Goku's punches on compared to Buu,who's only multi-solar system+ with his strongest blast,I wouldn't be surprised,given the gap between multi-solar system & universal(not saying he can or not,just that I wouldn't be surprised).It happened more than once actually during that fight,& Goku would just have to slam his hands together since he did it when he was weaker than he is now by clashing with Beerus who was suppressed to his level of power.That's because they couldn't control the shockwaves at first,they got stronger out as it became harder to control them(the anime showed Goku could use his ki to control the shockwaves of his attacks when he did it when he elbowed Recoome). http://www.universetoday.com/75803/how-does-the-sun-produce-energy/ It would not produce the same effects of a star,especially since it's just energy,not plasma.Op how?There are plenty of times he's needed help,or just luck to get out of a bad situation.He's only OP compared to characters like Naruto.No he doesn't,you clearly didn't look at the evidence,which debunked that(video labeled "April 13,2014" in green toward the bottom under "battle").Also it wasn't a galaxy,it was some planets in a dead solar system,& that happened because of Mxy's 5D magic powder.He can destroy universes with just a punch,& Fat Buu had to be warned to be careful by Babidi,or he'd destroy Earth by exhaling too hard,& considering how strong Goku's punches on compared to Buu,who's only multi-solar system+ with his strongest blast,I wouldn't be surprised,given the gap between multi-solar system & universal(not saying he can or not,just that I wouldn't be surprised).It happened more than once actually during that fight,& Goku would just have to slam his hands together since he did it when he was weaker than he is now by clashing with Beerus who was suppressed to his level of power.That's because they couldn't control the shockwaves at first,they got stronger out as it became harder to control them(the anime showed Goku could use his ki to control the shockwaves of his attacks when he did it when he elbowed Recoome). -------------------- |
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07-08-16 01:46 PM
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Titan127 : You clearly didn't look at the evidence then.The facts show Superman is nowhere near Goku.Can't be beaten?That's a laugh,he's been beaten up plenty of times.The strongest Supermen can't even beat Goku's base,which is universal by now after training under Whis & going through the time chamber(& we know how much stronger than made Vegeta the 1st time). That "theory" has plenty of holes in it,like the fact ki is refereed to as energy in the series,not as plasma.Also no,that's not how Superman's power works,he gets power from solar energy of stars of a certain color,even if his attacks were plasma,it wouldn't have the same effect.I can tell,considering you don't know much about Superman if you say he can't be beaten,when he's been beaten & even killed. That "theory" has plenty of holes in it,like the fact ki is refereed to as energy in the series,not as plasma.Also no,that's not how Superman's power works,he gets power from solar energy of stars of a certain color,even if his attacks were plasma,it wouldn't have the same effect.I can tell,considering you don't know much about Superman if you say he can't be beaten,when he's been beaten & even killed. -------------------- |
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Eniitan : Well,in an argument,I find opinions are meaningless,it's the facts that matter.How was I being rude?If you get bothered by something harmless like what I said,the internet isn't the place for you.Saying I didn't read is rude,especially when I directly responded to everything you said in your comment. -------------------- |
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pennylessz : Considering they think Superman has infinite power,when that claim was debunked a while ago,I'd say it's because of bias,or they just like to annoy people. -------------------- |
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Eniitan : & I refuted what he said.If you don't see the point in debates over fiction,I don't see why you'd even comment on a post about it.I honestly did it because I was bored.It's one of the things I do in my free time,to test the logic & intelligence of others,same as I do with any argument. -------------------- |
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awesomeguy279 : If you aren't sure,look over the evidence multiple times & think on it if you have to. -------------------- |
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Galacta : Only if the author is the only author of the character,yet Superman has multiple authors,therefore,only DC has ultimate authority over their characters. I haven't gotten far in JoJo,so I'm not going to weigh in on that character.Boros isn't a galaxy destroyer.It was stated by Boros himself that his strongest attack would only destroy the surface of the planet. http://i.imgur.com/R8Mmgxl.png King Vegeta could casually wipe out planets,& Vegeta stated he surpassed him before he was old enough to tell the difference.Saiyan Saga Vegeta is multi-planet level,not just planet level.The One Punch Man anime isn't canon,unless it is stated to be canon. I haven't gotten far in JoJo,so I'm not going to weigh in on that character.Boros isn't a galaxy destroyer.It was stated by Boros himself that his strongest attack would only destroy the surface of the planet. http://i.imgur.com/R8Mmgxl.png King Vegeta could casually wipe out planets,& Vegeta stated he surpassed him before he was old enough to tell the difference.Saiyan Saga Vegeta is multi-planet level,not just planet level.The One Punch Man anime isn't canon,unless it is stated to be canon. -------------------- |
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maguc : Now you're stawmaning me?I never said an author has no weight.I said the argument that "it depends on the author" has no weight.You can't cherry pick authors,you have to take what is consistent,not ones that write something you like more.Yet you bring up the hypothetical of giving Superman plot armor.No,plot armor is not a valid argument,& is often ignored with good reason.You need to take what is consistent to see what the character can actually do,not tipping the scales in his favor.That is biased.They were not omnipotent being.Goku has been stated to be a god now,but he not omnipotent.Trigon soloed the Justice League & Teen Titans,yet he was beaten,so he isn't omnipotent.A god is doesn't have to be all powerful to be a god.Also that's still a problem in your argument,if he couldn't be defeated,he'd be omnipotent & would be able to stalemate omnipotents.I have done research,which is why I make that statement.There is no evidence that he has no limits,otherwise I'd believe that.You're joking right?That's not even Dragon Ball level.Goku took out a moon level enemy(Drum) with a single kick & busted his head open,yet he has limits like Saitama & Superman.I mean he has more to suggest he would win.I suppose that was poor wording on my part.Clearly you don't & you are.You flat out said it doesn't matter without refuting any of it.No limits even though DC & Superman himself state he has limits?Limiting himself doesn't mean those are his only limits.This is proven by the fact he needed Captain Marvel to move the book in the Library of Limbo,yet the failed to move it.Authors in DC don't have supreme authority over a character though,only DC themselves do,& they've flat out stated that Superman has limits.If he didn't,you'd be able to prove it. -------------------- |
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maguc : Nothing I've stated has suggested any bias.If anyone has shown bias,it's you considering you constantly state a character can't be beaten even though I've presented evidence showing that to not be true.If he couldn't be beaten,a supernova would do nothing to him,he wouldn't have almost died against Doomsday,etc.If my evidence is weak,why haven't you refuted a shred of it?I don't want a discussion yet you're tapping out because you can't counter my points? -------------------- |
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maguc : The author argument has no weight.You're basically arguing in favor of giving Superman plot armor,which is bias.One is to take existing & consistent evidence in these discussions,not just say "he's meant to be that way" with nothing to back it up.Again,no he doesn't.He's lost fights before,as I've presented.I knew you were going to say something that ridiculous.Saitama is not over powered,he doesn't have anything to suggest he's even above planet level.Even Superman could beat him.Why?Because he has more evidence on his side than Saitama,& Goku has more evidence on his side than the 2 of them combined.Just because his villains are fodder doesn't make him over powered.No,you can't just throw away evidence because you don't like it.I still don't see you refuting the fact Superman himself,as well as DC,flat out state Superman has limits,& they fall short compared to Goku's limits. -------------------- |
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maguc : You clearly didn't look at any of the evidence or read any of the comics.Plenty of people have been stronger than Superman & have even beaten him(i.e. Trigon) or he's needed help to beat his opponent.Even Superman himself has stated he's not limitless. What a good comic is subjective.I think character building is important,& there is a little bit of that in the comics,but that's irrelevant.How about you know about the character you claim is limitless?Superman isn't even the strongest in his own verse,so it's impossible for him to be unbeatable.Come back when you've actually looked at the evidence fully to give a rebuttal. What a good comic is subjective.I think character building is important,& there is a little bit of that in the comics,but that's irrelevant.How about you know about the character you claim is limitless?Superman isn't even the strongest in his own verse,so it's impossible for him to be unbeatable.Come back when you've actually looked at the evidence fully to give a rebuttal. -------------------- |
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This is an Lifting strength does not impact how hard you punch. Don't believe me? Look here, it even applies to humans. http://www.expertboxing.com/boxing-training/boxing-workouts/why-lifting-weights-wont-increase-punching-power Travel speed =/= combat speed,even the comics say this. http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11118/111183084/4023525-5657008950-35a7p.jpg http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/3/30145/2045848-wonder_woman_v_superman_1.jpg For Post-Crisis:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/100066304647727037914/posts/KxihcBkaqvF Keep in mind the supernova feat was him taking a fraction of a supernova. For Pre-Crisis(more on him towards the bottom): Superman even got stunned by a fraction of a supernova. http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/7/74629/1398557-superman24303xt8.jpg http://therec-room.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/feats-number-7-b.jpg This is also the best I've seen him do without being amped up: http://static3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120228104058/marvel_dc/images/c/c9/Anti-Monitor_0007.jpg About Superman Prime One Million : They say his speed is infinite --> false: he couldn't save Atom's dimension because things happened too fast even for him (literally stated by Superman himself). - They say he destroyed the universal threat Solaris --> false: yes, he defeated him, but Solaris was already nearly killed by Superman One Million (Kal Kent); he also used the GL in order to do this feat. Not very impressive. - They say he created a universe --> LOL false: in fact he simply pulled Atom to a different universe through the universal gate and then said "Welcome to my Universe". - They say he has 5-D Imp powers and he is omnipotent --> false: the 5-D Imps entered the Superman dynasty after Superman has already existed; for the same reason he needed the powers of a 5-D Imp Superman (Lzyxm Ltpkz) in order to bring back Lois (not to mention that he also needed her DNA, supplied by Kyle Rayner, which makes the feat even less impressive). Also, nothing on panel states he isn't affected anymore by magic and Kryptonite. Omnipotent def not - They say he recreated Krypton --> false: Hourman with the Worgolog did it. - They say he was the 2nd most powerful being in DC, only behind the Presence --> false: probably a fanmade statement. - They say he reached the Source Wall --> false: Superman only says he reached the edge of the Multiverse, the Source Wall was never specifically mentioned and he came back without answers to his questions. False information on Superman prime 1 million Prime is just a version of Superman with a large boost from sitting in the sun for 15,000 years. Much like Goku going Super Saiyan, if we can establish a baseline as well as the modifier for how much of a boost the transformation gives we can get a good estimate of actual capabilities. Since Prime has NO combat feats, upscaling base Superman is about the only way we can get this sorted. I posted above: "Previously a 15 minute dip made him around 3x as strong, and 15,000 years of relaxing (which would be very very dull honestly) should be around a 1,577,847,000x boost then" Thought Robot/Cosmic Armor Superman: https://plus.google.com/102683655307828907556/posts/Pze7P6k5Cyd https://plus.google.com/102683655307828907556/posts/6rC4nXqVWNV More for Superman: https://plus.google.com/111094366216215564026/posts/9FmPqwHcypP https://plus.google.com/110233506537878589617/posts/HeHkLKT8TPx For DBZ: https://plus.google.com/110233506537878589617/posts/8Po9agR8Lwo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDoKIm3Xquk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5CTKZIMgDg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTjCIZXxvoo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfpfmLYZf_Q https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34szXr-6M6o https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGhdBaNekmM https://plus.google.com/100710881237554392560/posts/4F1fTykpTAs http://www.screwattack.com/news/cell-solar-system-buster-0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FD872yk1_6w http://www.saiyanisland.com/2014/05/akira-toriyama-reveals/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdLpKXk1VTk Sources: http://magikarp46.com/dragonball/guid... for quotes on Universe and kaioshin realm. http://www.kanzenshuu.com/forum/viewt... for quotes on Universe and kaioshin realm. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S15Kf... "No, the entire galaxy will cease to be" http://www.kanzenshuu.com/2013/03/03/... "...he must not anger Birusu, lest he destroy not only the Earth, but the entire galaxy." http://www.kanzenshuu.com/translation... "Who was it that sealed the Elder Kaiōshin away in the Z Sword?" "The Kaiōshin (who create planets) and the Gods of Destruction (who destroy them) have never gotten along that well, but once every 1,000 years they go to each other’s realms and hold a coordination meeting. At this time, they got into an argument over some trifling thing, and a certain short-tempered God of Destruction sealed Elder Kaiōshin away inside a sword. Naturally, it wouldn’t have been proper for him to destroy the Kaiōshin Realm itself. By the way, that God of Destruction was Beerus." Going by this,SSjG should be universal at the very least. Goku can also seal beings as well(which can even work on those much stronger than him as the technique worked for Mutaito against King Piccolo): https://plus.google.com/111094366216215564026/posts/XybGQPSjiW9 Goku punched through King Kai's planet(this can still be applied to the Toyotaro timeline). http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/11111/111114283/3146598-goku+punch+planet.jpg "a friend of mine made a calculation taking into account other factors to measure the durability of the planet King Kai. I'll show you the calcs. The first calculation is figuring out the mass of the planet using gravity and radius since those are the two things we know. The next step is Volume, using the radius. And the third is density using the mass and volume we calced. I also have links to a few calculators/convertors I checked the answers on. Rearanged gravity formula to calculate mass instead (had to do short hand got formula from Wikipedia) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surface_gravity g = m/r^2 m = r^2 x g Volume formula V = (4/3) × pi × r^3 Density Formula P = M/V *Very good overall calculator http://web2.0calc.com/ cm/g to m/kg calculator http://www.unitjuggler.com/convert-density-from-gpercm3-to-kgperm3.html Density calculator http://www.smartconversion.com/unit_calculation/Density_calculator.aspx Volume calculator http://www.basic-mathematics.com/volume-of-a-sphere-calculator.html Here's the actual calcs g = m/r^2 m = r^2 x g m = 0.0000156961230576^2 x 10 m = 0.0000000024636827904 earth masses Earths mass = 5.97219 × 10^24 kilograms 5.97219 × 10^24 X 0.0000000024636827904 = 14,713,581,723,998,976 m = 14,713,581,723,998,976 kg This considers King Kai's planet as 100m radius and 10X gravity. The small number is the size of King Kai's planets radius in relation to Earths. volume of a sphere is V = (4/3) × pi × r^3 V = (4/3) × pi × 100m^3 = 4188790.2047863905m^3 This is using King Kai's planet as 100m radius. Knowing the mass and Volume we can get density. P = M/V P = 14713581723998976kg / 4188790.2047863905m^3 P = 3.512608892.9415128417291527 X 10^9 kg/m^3 Density of a white dwarf star: "The average density of matter in a white dwarf must therefore be, very roughly, 1,000,000 times greater than the average density of the Sun, or approximately 10^6 g/cm3." Which translates to 10^9 kg/m^3. So in other words it is over 3.5 times as dense as a white dwarf star. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_dwarf " Keep in mind this isn't the limit of how hard Goku can punch before becoming a god.He should have solar system+ level punches by scaling. Fat Buu was capable of destroying earth with his breath alone Babidi had too warn him not to breath to hard or he would http://c.mhcdn.net/store/manga/214/39-012.0/compressed/391201.jpg http://c.mhcdn.net/store/manga/214/39-012.0/compressed/391203.jpg not to mention Frieza or Cold could had destroyed earth with a simple blast http://imageshack.com/f/35/friezadestryongwith1bla.jpg Hell,Recoome deflected Gohan's attack with his breath,& that blast was planet+ level at least. http://xreader.net/Dragon-Ball/277#11 http://media.animevice.com/uploads/0/9491/271089-goku_blocks_trunks_super.gif "Let's determine the force behind Trunks attacks first. He easily sliced Frieza (who already had HIGH planet durability. Then had his stats increased with the enhanced cybernetics) in half. So we're looking at a being who literally lived through a planet + spirit bomb, being chopped in half, getting hit by a planet busting Angry Kamehameha, then the explosion of planet Namek, then drifting in space with no food/water for months, get chopped in half like a hot knife through butter by trunks and his sword. With all this said. I can honestly/legitimately claim that trunks can swing his sword hard enough to destroy earth 100x over. (And even that is low balling.) yet this 100x earth busting attack. Can't even damage Goku's finger. Which according to the brilliant math of reviewer03, only possesses 1/1000th of Goku's real power.had originally calculated Goku to be able to tear planets apart with full power punches but now I see that all it takes is a simple poke from his finger.... And DC enigmas STILL HAVE THE NERVE to claim that DBZ isn't a ridiculously OP show. " Goku can punch out universes: https://plus.google.com/111360070266915769819/posts/Zx2Ji9xBAh1 https://plus.google.com/103671898476907153786/posts/Zy4fEAhgxxB Keep in he kept this power in SSj,with base being a 50th of what he was when fighting Beerus,& he trained with Vegeta under Whis & even went into the time chamber with Vegeta(not to mention the zenkais that came after). https://plus.google.com/108745336952236894636/posts/25rTEkE3vLr "Goku black Was already 400 x stronger than Goku in the last arc, and that is a fact because Trunk Stated Goku black was on par if not slightly stronger than SSj3 Goku while in his base. Goku black was current Goku who had his Bodies Switched by Zamasu and Went to the future and fought Trunk for a year. so...it's a much stronger Goku, Goku and Vegeta both Surpassed Black in episode 63 indicating that they got at least 400 x stronger in order for vegeta and Goku to bully him. also, Before those power ups Black Stated Goku and vegeta where fodder to him and that he could kill them any time he wanted to." - Ragnarok423 This is backed up by the fact that Black could compete against SSj2 Goku using his base:  Black became much stronger than this later. DBZ characters are massively faster than light(mftl). For those who doubt light speed is ever stated(at 10 minutes in) Dragon Ball Episode 140 English Dubbed https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ykh9joYnKGg http://www.comicvine.com/dragon-balls/4055-46445/forums/finally-dbz-time-reaction-has-minimum-quantificati-754608/ http://media.animevice.com/uploads/0/9491/243021-kid_goku_laser_dodges_1_super.gif http://media.animevice.com/uploads/0/9491/243018-kid_goku_aser_dodges_2_super.gif http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/14/149746/3274855-3245560-catch%2Bdragon-ball.jpg http://media.animevice.com/uploads/0/9491/243009-goku_8_arms_super.gif http://s103.photobucket.com/user/kinasin/media/250661-goku_dodges_taiyoken1_super.jpg.html http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11111/111114806/3071780-8612189208-25066.jpg http://media.animevice.com/uploads/0/9491/250664-goku_dodges_taiyoken_3_super.jpg http://media.animevice.com/uploads/0/576/304833-225121_picmoon1_super.jpg Shortly before,Raditz dodged a faster blast http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140518175200/ultradragonball/images/thumb/8/80/Light_of_Death.jpg/185px-Light_of_Death.jpg http://media.animevice.com/uploads/0/9491/243939-radditz_speed4_super.jpg Speed rises with power: https://plus.google.com/110233506537878589617/posts/UYQZEFSmfJJ Goku catches Beerus clinging to Whis,who is moving at speeds great enough to cross hundreds of billions of light years in a matter of minutes: https://plus.google.com/111094366216215564026/posts/QwGn5p8Nqxg Speed calculation for the fight with Goku & Beerus: https://plus.google.com/111094366216215564026/posts/KhqxQuFX49H Skill: Goku adapted to Roshi & came up with a fighting style to counter him. http://a.mfcdn.net/store/manga/214/04-048.0/compressed/i009.jpg http://a.mfcdn.net/store/manga/214/04-048.0/compressed/i010.jpg http://a.mfcdn.net/store/manga/214/04-048.0/compressed/i011.jpg http://a.mfcdn.net/store/manga/214/04-048.0/compressed/i012.jpg http://a.mfcdn.net/store/manga/214/04-048.0/compressed/i013.jpg http://a.mfcdn.net/store/manga/214/04-048.0/compressed/i014.jpg http://a.mfcdn.net/store/manga/214/04-048.0/compressed/i015.jpg http://a.mfcdn.net/store/manga/214/04-048.0/compressed/i016.jpg http://a.mfcdn.net/store/manga/214/05-049.0/compressed/s002.jpg http://a.mfcdn.net/store/manga/214/05-049.0/compressed/s003.jpg http://a.mfcdn.net/store/manga/214/05-049.0/compressed/s004.jpg http://a.mfcdn.net/store/manga/214/05-049.0/compressed/s005.jpg Gotenks warped reality in the Buu Saga: https://plus.google.com/110233506537878589617/posts/awwuCMp7VKB Copy Vegeta stomped him in base form. Goku matched Copy Vegeta: Goku resists hax: https://plus.google.com/101851609209731148104/posts/99Myg4k3JCC https://plus.google.com/112546901777971778992/posts/QTcZHD3XcTH https://plus.google.com/111360070266915769819/posts/ikcYz492T7M https://plus.google.com/111360070266915769819/posts/UFgX45VJFZf https://plus.google.com/111360070266915769819/posts/7BVwUPyNkkq Ki allows heat resistance: https://plus.google.com/110233506537878589617/posts/XqkqyEEA2nX Ki even produces heat, like other forms of energy. http://www.mangareader.net/dragon-ball/209/14 http://www.mangareader.net/dragon-ball/209/15 We see gohan use ki to start up the fire to cook the meat Plus in dbz the stronger you are the stronger your ki becomes. Debunking Goku downplay: Goku, along with other saiyans, have been shown to be able to survive in space a considerable amount of time: https://plus.google.com/111094366216215564026/posts/PNcKVUMbDFs Earth's core could not kill Goku. https://plus.google.com/111094366216215564026/posts/QNYfCA4NXAS https://plus.google.com/111094366216215564026/posts/hdAfamyTNDd Goku even teleports back without the suit, so he took it off down there & was fine.  Goku could clearly lift more than 40 tons prior to becoming a god. Goku is not weak to lasers. https://plus.google.com/112546901777971778992/posts/UDGahLmBxB8 DBZ filler AKA the anime is canon: “Some of the filler most fans complain about as being non-canon material was actually Toriyama’s idea.”-from Kanzenshuu. “Toriyama: Dragon Ball, it’s the anime and the manga”. http://www.kanzenshuu.com/production/toriyama/ http://media.animevice.com/uploads/0/1226/422453-animeme4_super.jpg Translation for the photo. "12: From time to time, il would happen that people whom I didn’t even know were approaching me about the anime. Things were often said like: “Oh jeeze, between the manga and the anime, you must never take any time to let yourself breathe!". In reality, I had hardly worked at all on the anime, I had put confidence in my collaborators. I had enough to do just with the manga. I didn’t want to work myself to death, you know... Toriyama: I want to live until I’m 100 years old! 13: For example, drawing an image of a movement in a manga is relatively simple, but to animate this image, you had to decompose the movement and draw all the intermediary movements. That demands a colossal amount of work. (Ok, the example of Kame-sennin might not be the most appropriate...) 14: Of course, those who have read Dragon Ball have noticed that certain stories which are found in the anime didn’t existed in the manga. Oolong: What’s this? I never saw that in the manga.... ENstraight As one adventure in the manga corresponds to about 10 minutes of animation, and since one episode comprises on average 30 minutes, the entire series of Dragon Ball would have passed by very quickly. The team of animators therefore had to Toriyama: Dragon Ball, it’s the anime and the manga!" The battle: Superman VS Goku 2 Death Battle Review - YouTube (debunking Screw Attack) Superman vs Goku: An Objective Look - YouTube (GT vs Post-Crisis) April 13, 2014 (Pre-Crisis vs Composite Movie Goku/Pre-God Goku) The original post(posted by me): https://plus.google.com/b/110233506537878589617/110233506537878589617/posts/7pWphQsgw6p?pageId=110233506537878589617 Also on: Goku vs Superman SSjGSSj/SSjB vs Superman Prime: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNWWs8GI24I&feature=autoshare You can even see the full context of the comics here: http://readcomiconline.to/  Image upload: 900x506 totaling 233 KB's. Lifting strength does not impact how hard you punch. Don't believe me? Look here, it even applies to humans. http://www.expertboxing.com/boxing-training/boxing-workouts/why-lifting-weights-wont-increase-punching-power Travel speed =/= combat speed,even the comics say this. http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11118/111183084/4023525-5657008950-35a7p.jpg http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/3/30145/2045848-wonder_woman_v_superman_1.jpg For Post-Crisis:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/100066304647727037914/posts/KxihcBkaqvF Keep in mind the supernova feat was him taking a fraction of a supernova. For Pre-Crisis(more on him towards the bottom): Superman even got stunned by a fraction of a supernova. http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/7/74629/1398557-superman24303xt8.jpg http://therec-room.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/feats-number-7-b.jpg This is also the best I've seen him do without being amped up: http://static3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120228104058/marvel_dc/images/c/c9/Anti-Monitor_0007.jpg About Superman Prime One Million : They say his speed is infinite --> false: he couldn't save Atom's dimension because things happened too fast even for him (literally stated by Superman himself). - They say he destroyed the universal threat Solaris --> false: yes, he defeated him, but Solaris was already nearly killed by Superman One Million (Kal Kent); he also used the GL in order to do this feat. Not very impressive. - They say he created a universe --> LOL false: in fact he simply pulled Atom to a different universe through the universal gate and then said "Welcome to my Universe". - They say he has 5-D Imp powers and he is omnipotent --> false: the 5-D Imps entered the Superman dynasty after Superman has already existed; for the same reason he needed the powers of a 5-D Imp Superman (Lzyxm Ltpkz) in order to bring back Lois (not to mention that he also needed her DNA, supplied by Kyle Rayner, which makes the feat even less impressive). Also, nothing on panel states he isn't affected anymore by magic and Kryptonite. Omnipotent def not - They say he recreated Krypton --> false: Hourman with the Worgolog did it. - They say he was the 2nd most powerful being in DC, only behind the Presence --> false: probably a fanmade statement. - They say he reached the Source Wall --> false: Superman only says he reached the edge of the Multiverse, the Source Wall was never specifically mentioned and he came back without answers to his questions. False information on Superman prime 1 million Prime is just a version of Superman with a large boost from sitting in the sun for 15,000 years. Much like Goku going Super Saiyan, if we can establish a baseline as well as the modifier for how much of a boost the transformation gives we can get a good estimate of actual capabilities. Since Prime has NO combat feats, upscaling base Superman is about the only way we can get this sorted. I posted above: "Previously a 15 minute dip made him around 3x as strong, and 15,000 years of relaxing (which would be very very dull honestly) should be around a 1,577,847,000x boost then" Thought Robot/Cosmic Armor Superman: https://plus.google.com/102683655307828907556/posts/Pze7P6k5Cyd https://plus.google.com/102683655307828907556/posts/6rC4nXqVWNV More for Superman: https://plus.google.com/111094366216215564026/posts/9FmPqwHcypP https://plus.google.com/110233506537878589617/posts/HeHkLKT8TPx For DBZ: https://plus.google.com/110233506537878589617/posts/8Po9agR8Lwo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDoKIm3Xquk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5CTKZIMgDg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTjCIZXxvoo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfpfmLYZf_Q https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34szXr-6M6o https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGhdBaNekmM https://plus.google.com/100710881237554392560/posts/4F1fTykpTAs http://www.screwattack.com/news/cell-solar-system-buster-0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FD872yk1_6w http://www.saiyanisland.com/2014/05/akira-toriyama-reveals/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdLpKXk1VTk Sources: http://magikarp46.com/dragonball/guid... for quotes on Universe and kaioshin realm. http://www.kanzenshuu.com/forum/viewt... for quotes on Universe and kaioshin realm. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S15Kf... "No, the entire galaxy will cease to be" http://www.kanzenshuu.com/2013/03/03/... "...he must not anger Birusu, lest he destroy not only the Earth, but the entire galaxy." http://www.kanzenshuu.com/translation... "Who was it that sealed the Elder Kaiōshin away in the Z Sword?" "The Kaiōshin (who create planets) and the Gods of Destruction (who destroy them) have never gotten along that well, but once every 1,000 years they go to each other’s realms and hold a coordination meeting. At this time, they got into an argument over some trifling thing, and a certain short-tempered God of Destruction sealed Elder Kaiōshin away inside a sword. Naturally, it wouldn’t have been proper for him to destroy the Kaiōshin Realm itself. By the way, that God of Destruction was Beerus." Going by this,SSjG should be universal at the very least. Goku can also seal beings as well(which can even work on those much stronger than him as the technique worked for Mutaito against King Piccolo): https://plus.google.com/111094366216215564026/posts/XybGQPSjiW9 Goku punched through King Kai's planet(this can still be applied to the Toyotaro timeline). http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/11111/111114283/3146598-goku+punch+planet.jpg "a friend of mine made a calculation taking into account other factors to measure the durability of the planet King Kai. I'll show you the calcs. The first calculation is figuring out the mass of the planet using gravity and radius since those are the two things we know. The next step is Volume, using the radius. And the third is density using the mass and volume we calced. I also have links to a few calculators/convertors I checked the answers on. Rearanged gravity formula to calculate mass instead (had to do short hand got formula from Wikipedia) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surface_gravity g = m/r^2 m = r^2 x g Volume formula V = (4/3) × pi × r^3 Density Formula P = M/V *Very good overall calculator http://web2.0calc.com/ cm/g to m/kg calculator http://www.unitjuggler.com/convert-density-from-gpercm3-to-kgperm3.html Density calculator http://www.smartconversion.com/unit_calculation/Density_calculator.aspx Volume calculator http://www.basic-mathematics.com/volume-of-a-sphere-calculator.html Here's the actual calcs g = m/r^2 m = r^2 x g m = 0.0000156961230576^2 x 10 m = 0.0000000024636827904 earth masses Earths mass = 5.97219 × 10^24 kilograms 5.97219 × 10^24 X 0.0000000024636827904 = 14,713,581,723,998,976 m = 14,713,581,723,998,976 kg This considers King Kai's planet as 100m radius and 10X gravity. The small number is the size of King Kai's planets radius in relation to Earths. volume of a sphere is V = (4/3) × pi × r^3 V = (4/3) × pi × 100m^3 = 4188790.2047863905m^3 This is using King Kai's planet as 100m radius. Knowing the mass and Volume we can get density. P = M/V P = 14713581723998976kg / 4188790.2047863905m^3 P = 3.512608892.9415128417291527 X 10^9 kg/m^3 Density of a white dwarf star: "The average density of matter in a white dwarf must therefore be, very roughly, 1,000,000 times greater than the average density of the Sun, or approximately 10^6 g/cm3." Which translates to 10^9 kg/m^3. So in other words it is over 3.5 times as dense as a white dwarf star. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_dwarf " Keep in mind this isn't the limit of how hard Goku can punch before becoming a god.He should have solar system+ level punches by scaling. Fat Buu was capable of destroying earth with his breath alone Babidi had too warn him not to breath to hard or he would http://c.mhcdn.net/store/manga/214/39-012.0/compressed/391201.jpg http://c.mhcdn.net/store/manga/214/39-012.0/compressed/391203.jpg not to mention Frieza or Cold could had destroyed earth with a simple blast http://imageshack.com/f/35/friezadestryongwith1bla.jpg Hell,Recoome deflected Gohan's attack with his breath,& that blast was planet+ level at least. http://xreader.net/Dragon-Ball/277#11 http://media.animevice.com/uploads/0/9491/271089-goku_blocks_trunks_super.gif "Let's determine the force behind Trunks attacks first. He easily sliced Frieza (who already had HIGH planet durability. Then had his stats increased with the enhanced cybernetics) in half. So we're looking at a being who literally lived through a planet + spirit bomb, being chopped in half, getting hit by a planet busting Angry Kamehameha, then the explosion of planet Namek, then drifting in space with no food/water for months, get chopped in half like a hot knife through butter by trunks and his sword. With all this said. I can honestly/legitimately claim that trunks can swing his sword hard enough to destroy earth 100x over. (And even that is low balling.) yet this 100x earth busting attack. Can't even damage Goku's finger. Which according to the brilliant math of reviewer03, only possesses 1/1000th of Goku's real power.had originally calculated Goku to be able to tear planets apart with full power punches but now I see that all it takes is a simple poke from his finger.... And DC enigmas STILL HAVE THE NERVE to claim that DBZ isn't a ridiculously OP show. " Goku can punch out universes: https://plus.google.com/111360070266915769819/posts/Zx2Ji9xBAh1 https://plus.google.com/103671898476907153786/posts/Zy4fEAhgxxB Keep in he kept this power in SSj,with base being a 50th of what he was when fighting Beerus,& he trained with Vegeta under Whis & even went into the time chamber with Vegeta(not to mention the zenkais that came after). https://plus.google.com/108745336952236894636/posts/25rTEkE3vLr "Goku black Was already 400 x stronger than Goku in the last arc, and that is a fact because Trunk Stated Goku black was on par if not slightly stronger than SSj3 Goku while in his base. Goku black was current Goku who had his Bodies Switched by Zamasu and Went to the future and fought Trunk for a year. so...it's a much stronger Goku, Goku and Vegeta both Surpassed Black in episode 63 indicating that they got at least 400 x stronger in order for vegeta and Goku to bully him. also, Before those power ups Black Stated Goku and vegeta where fodder to him and that he could kill them any time he wanted to." - Ragnarok423 This is backed up by the fact that Black could compete against SSj2 Goku using his base: Black became much stronger than this later. DBZ characters are massively faster than light(mftl). For those who doubt light speed is ever stated(at 10 minutes in) Dragon Ball Episode 140 English Dubbed https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ykh9joYnKGg http://www.comicvine.com/dragon-balls/4055-46445/forums/finally-dbz-time-reaction-has-minimum-quantificati-754608/ http://media.animevice.com/uploads/0/9491/243021-kid_goku_laser_dodges_1_super.gif http://media.animevice.com/uploads/0/9491/243018-kid_goku_aser_dodges_2_super.gif http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/14/149746/3274855-3245560-catch%2Bdragon-ball.jpg http://media.animevice.com/uploads/0/9491/243009-goku_8_arms_super.gif http://s103.photobucket.com/user/kinasin/media/250661-goku_dodges_taiyoken1_super.jpg.html http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11111/111114806/3071780-8612189208-25066.jpg http://media.animevice.com/uploads/0/9491/250664-goku_dodges_taiyoken_3_super.jpg http://media.animevice.com/uploads/0/576/304833-225121_picmoon1_super.jpg Shortly before,Raditz dodged a faster blast http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140518175200/ultradragonball/images/thumb/8/80/Light_of_Death.jpg/185px-Light_of_Death.jpg http://media.animevice.com/uploads/0/9491/243939-radditz_speed4_super.jpg Speed rises with power: https://plus.google.com/110233506537878589617/posts/UYQZEFSmfJJ Goku catches Beerus clinging to Whis,who is moving at speeds great enough to cross hundreds of billions of light years in a matter of minutes: https://plus.google.com/111094366216215564026/posts/QwGn5p8Nqxg Speed calculation for the fight with Goku & Beerus: https://plus.google.com/111094366216215564026/posts/KhqxQuFX49H Skill: Goku adapted to Roshi & came up with a fighting style to counter him. http://a.mfcdn.net/store/manga/214/04-048.0/compressed/i009.jpg http://a.mfcdn.net/store/manga/214/04-048.0/compressed/i010.jpg http://a.mfcdn.net/store/manga/214/04-048.0/compressed/i011.jpg http://a.mfcdn.net/store/manga/214/04-048.0/compressed/i012.jpg http://a.mfcdn.net/store/manga/214/04-048.0/compressed/i013.jpg http://a.mfcdn.net/store/manga/214/04-048.0/compressed/i014.jpg http://a.mfcdn.net/store/manga/214/04-048.0/compressed/i015.jpg http://a.mfcdn.net/store/manga/214/04-048.0/compressed/i016.jpg http://a.mfcdn.net/store/manga/214/05-049.0/compressed/s002.jpg http://a.mfcdn.net/store/manga/214/05-049.0/compressed/s003.jpg http://a.mfcdn.net/store/manga/214/05-049.0/compressed/s004.jpg http://a.mfcdn.net/store/manga/214/05-049.0/compressed/s005.jpg Gotenks warped reality in the Buu Saga: https://plus.google.com/110233506537878589617/posts/awwuCMp7VKB Copy Vegeta stomped him in base form. Goku matched Copy Vegeta: Goku resists hax: https://plus.google.com/101851609209731148104/posts/99Myg4k3JCC https://plus.google.com/112546901777971778992/posts/QTcZHD3XcTH https://plus.google.com/111360070266915769819/posts/ikcYz492T7M https://plus.google.com/111360070266915769819/posts/UFgX45VJFZf https://plus.google.com/111360070266915769819/posts/7BVwUPyNkkq Ki allows heat resistance: https://plus.google.com/110233506537878589617/posts/XqkqyEEA2nX Ki even produces heat, like other forms of energy. http://www.mangareader.net/dragon-ball/209/14 http://www.mangareader.net/dragon-ball/209/15 We see gohan use ki to start up the fire to cook the meat Plus in dbz the stronger you are the stronger your ki becomes. Debunking Goku downplay: Goku, along with other saiyans, have been shown to be able to survive in space a considerable amount of time: https://plus.google.com/111094366216215564026/posts/PNcKVUMbDFs Earth's core could not kill Goku. https://plus.google.com/111094366216215564026/posts/QNYfCA4NXAS https://plus.google.com/111094366216215564026/posts/hdAfamyTNDd Goku even teleports back without the suit, so he took it off down there & was fine. Goku could clearly lift more than 40 tons prior to becoming a god. Goku is not weak to lasers. https://plus.google.com/112546901777971778992/posts/UDGahLmBxB8 DBZ filler AKA the anime is canon: “Some of the filler most fans complain about as being non-canon material was actually Toriyama’s idea.”-from Kanzenshuu. “Toriyama: Dragon Ball, it’s the anime and the manga”. http://www.kanzenshuu.com/production/toriyama/ http://media.animevice.com/uploads/0/1226/422453-animeme4_super.jpg Translation for the photo. "12: From time to time, il would happen that people whom I didn’t even know were approaching me about the anime. Things were often said like: “Oh jeeze, between the manga and the anime, you must never take any time to let yourself breathe!". In reality, I had hardly worked at all on the anime, I had put confidence in my collaborators. I had enough to do just with the manga. I didn’t want to work myself to death, you know... Toriyama: I want to live until I’m 100 years old! 13: For example, drawing an image of a movement in a manga is relatively simple, but to animate this image, you had to decompose the movement and draw all the intermediary movements. That demands a colossal amount of work. (Ok, the example of Kame-sennin might not be the most appropriate...) 14: Of course, those who have read Dragon Ball have noticed that certain stories which are found in the anime didn’t existed in the manga. Oolong: What’s this? I never saw that in the manga.... ENstraight As one adventure in the manga corresponds to about 10 minutes of animation, and since one episode comprises on average 30 minutes, the entire series of Dragon Ball would have passed by very quickly. The team of animators therefore had to Toriyama: Dragon Ball, it’s the anime and the manga!" The battle: Superman VS Goku 2 Death Battle Review - YouTube (debunking Screw Attack) Superman vs Goku: An Objective Look - YouTube (GT vs Post-Crisis) April 13, 2014 (Pre-Crisis vs Composite Movie Goku/Pre-God Goku) The original post(posted by me): https://plus.google.com/b/110233506537878589617/110233506537878589617/posts/7pWphQsgw6p?pageId=110233506537878589617 Also on: Goku vs Superman SSjGSSj/SSjB vs Superman Prime: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNWWs8GI24I&feature=autoshare You can even see the full context of the comics here: http://readcomiconline.to/ Image upload: 900x506 totaling 233 KB's. -------------------- |
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DukeofPidgeot : Sanders isn't about free stuff,he's about using tax dollars to be more beneficial to the 99%.Clinton is nothing more than a demagogue,basing her stances on polling rather than her actual beliefs.& when it isn't that,it's often what her backers want.Clinton is part of why America is a joke,because of the corruption. http://freebeacon.com/blog/hillary-clintons-top-corporate-donors-are-among-the-most-hated-companies-in-america/ https://americaisajoke.wordpress.com/ demagogue,basing her stances on polling rather than her actual beliefs.& when it isn't that,it's often what her backers want.Clinton is part of why America is a joke,because of the corruption. http://freebeacon.com/blog/hillary-clintons-top-corporate-donors-are-among-the-most-hated-companies-in-america/ https://americaisajoke.wordpress.com/ -------------------- |
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janus : That's a load of crap.I refuted your points & gave sources backing up my claims,while you were the one dismissing & ignoring what I put.Don't make me laugh,you act like you know more than experts who have actually studied economics.Don't give me that nonsense,I gave more sources than just Daily Kos.I'm going with people who know what they talking about.The way you act is as if one were to assume they know more about biology than the majority of biologists.Not enough had been presented at the time to convince them that they were moving,so that argument doesn't work.We know more now than we did in the past. -------------------- |
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janus : You keep calling it ludicrous yet I still haven't seen you prove it.Everything you did bring up against him has been shot down.When the experts side with Bernie(about 170 in fact),chances are he's right(It's similar ot science,if the majority of them agree on something,chances are there's something for it). www.dailykos.com/story/2016/01/18/1471553/-170-Top-Economists-endorse-the-Sanders-Wall-Street-Reform-Plan I don't feel there is much point in arguing about it further. That being said,I do agree with you on the hypocrisy of the liberal media. www.dailykos.com/story/2016/01/18/1471553/-170-Top-Economists-endorse-the-Sanders-Wall-Street-Reform-Plan I don't feel there is much point in arguing about it further. That being said,I do agree with you on the hypocrisy of the liberal media. -------------------- |
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RDay13 : I put a link to a video in the original post showing she is just a flip-flopper. janus : I already gave you a link a couple posts back,you have yet to refute it. Also this is what I found about Obama: http://www.factcheck.org/2013/10/obamas-numbers-october- I honestly think Obama was disappointing.He's more to the right than most would admit: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mike-shammas/obamas-second-term_b_3720893.html & Hillary would be more so to the right: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/h-a-goodman/president-hillary-clinton_b_5525235.html janus : I already gave you a link a couple posts back,you have yet to refute it. Also this is what I found about Obama: http://www.factcheck.org/2013/10/obamas-numbers-october- I honestly think Obama was disappointing.He's more to the right than most would admit: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mike-shammas/obamas-second-term_b_3720893.html & Hillary would be more so to the right: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/h-a-goodman/president-hillary-clinton_b_5525235.html -------------------- |
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