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07-26-17 03:04 AM
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Money can bring you happiness article

I use to be an applied science major in college and even then I questioned where the professors' got their sources. However, I am always half amused and half disgusted over how news companies try to manipulate hard data to promote a biased idea by giving vague and not being transparent about the actual source data.

With the way I dissected this, a small group of people, one of who's profession makes them at least middle class, in four unknown countries sees the standard of happiness being in having servants. Which, being a historian, makes me wonder if slave owners were even "happier" because they could just make a one time purchase and provide room & board.

Let me know how you guys take it?
Money can bring you happiness article

I use to be an applied science major in college and even then I questioned where the professors' got their sources. However, I am always half amused and half disgusted over how news companies try to manipulate hard data to promote a biased idea by giving vague and not being transparent about the actual source data.

With the way I dissected this, a small group of people, one of who's profession makes them at least middle class, in four unknown countries sees the standard of happiness being in having servants. Which, being a historian, makes me wonder if slave owners were even "happier" because they could just make a one time purchase and provide room & board.

Let me know how you guys take it?
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That article is questionable. I believe happiness can only be brought about through being self-effiecient. Using others as a shortcut won't satisfy me at all. Buying material goods doesn't make me truly happy; only helping others does.
That article is questionable. I believe happiness can only be brought about through being self-effiecient. Using others as a shortcut won't satisfy me at all. Buying material goods doesn't make me truly happy; only helping others does.
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Well, if you have to not focus on doing certain things because others are doing it for you then you can focus on what you really want to do, which essentially is what gives you happiness. However, like Ultrajeff said, because of morality or ideology, not everyone would be happy by having others do anything for them.

If you don't have the time to focus on everything you'll end up stressing yourself, so it's pure logic to hire someone that would take care of that for you. It's a form of business, after all: someone focuses on what others can't and gets an economical benefit. It's true that you're basically buying time when doing this, but it's not something you can abuse. Sometimes you have to deal with things yourself even if you don't want to. The reasons can be varied, but it's not something you can bypass.
Well, if you have to not focus on doing certain things because others are doing it for you then you can focus on what you really want to do, which essentially is what gives you happiness. However, like Ultrajeff said, because of morality or ideology, not everyone would be happy by having others do anything for them.

If you don't have the time to focus on everything you'll end up stressing yourself, so it's pure logic to hire someone that would take care of that for you. It's a form of business, after all: someone focuses on what others can't and gets an economical benefit. It's true that you're basically buying time when doing this, but it's not something you can abuse. Sometimes you have to deal with things yourself even if you don't want to. The reasons can be varied, but it's not something you can bypass.
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This article is directed towards people who put in 16+ hours of work a day. They mention a business student and a nurse entrepreneur with her own grocery service. These two people work most hours of the day so they don't have time to spend doing simple tasks. Saving time is the biggest stress reliever for people who are out hustling every waking hour of the day. 

For the average person who works 40 hours or less a week, having "servants" wouldn't bring them much value. Little stress would be relieved when compared to those who work more.
I don't think slave owners had much work to do so I don't think they were much happier than other free people.
This article is directed towards people who put in 16+ hours of work a day. They mention a business student and a nurse entrepreneur with her own grocery service. These two people work most hours of the day so they don't have time to spend doing simple tasks. Saving time is the biggest stress reliever for people who are out hustling every waking hour of the day. 

For the average person who works 40 hours or less a week, having "servants" wouldn't bring them much value. Little stress would be relieved when compared to those who work more.
I don't think slave owners had much work to do so I don't think they were much happier than other free people.
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To be completely honest, the media does this all the time to attract attention but this usually backfires. Sources are always needed, no matter what. If we can't get a source for a piece of information then we can't prove what someone says. 

Also, to be completely frank here, as earthwarrior said, servants wouldn't bring much value. The idea of free time is obviously manipulated and not used well. If the person is healthy enough to tidy themselves, why not? I mean, you aren't gonna get anything out of NOT doing anything now, are you?
To be completely honest, the media does this all the time to attract attention but this usually backfires. Sources are always needed, no matter what. If we can't get a source for a piece of information then we can't prove what someone says. 

Also, to be completely frank here, as earthwarrior said, servants wouldn't bring much value. The idea of free time is obviously manipulated and not used well. If the person is healthy enough to tidy themselves, why not? I mean, you aren't gonna get anything out of NOT doing anything now, are you?
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When I first saw this post I thought it was going to be a discussion about could income bring happiness (yes but only up to about 70k a year). The true simple science about whether something brings you happiness (especially if that something is monetary) is how much benefit would it give to you. Happiness on an income level as a cap because after you meet all of your needs and some of your wants you really do not receive anymore benefit from buying more stuff.

On the matter of domestic servants most people in America who have servants actually NEED help, think of grandma who can not clean any more or someone who is wheelchair bound needing someone to cook for them because cooking is a struggle for them.

Now granted do I think maybe a maid and a nutritionist would make me more happy, maybe if it meant that I had more time to work on my writing because I was not cooking and cleaning.

On a separate note though I could never imagine having a servant live in house as an introvert that would drive me crazy and definitely would not increase my happiness. My no people time is very important to my mental health.
When I first saw this post I thought it was going to be a discussion about could income bring happiness (yes but only up to about 70k a year). The true simple science about whether something brings you happiness (especially if that something is monetary) is how much benefit would it give to you. Happiness on an income level as a cap because after you meet all of your needs and some of your wants you really do not receive anymore benefit from buying more stuff.

On the matter of domestic servants most people in America who have servants actually NEED help, think of grandma who can not clean any more or someone who is wheelchair bound needing someone to cook for them because cooking is a struggle for them.

Now granted do I think maybe a maid and a nutritionist would make me more happy, maybe if it meant that I had more time to work on my writing because I was not cooking and cleaning.

On a separate note though I could never imagine having a servant live in house as an introvert that would drive me crazy and definitely would not increase my happiness. My no people time is very important to my mental health.
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My thought is that you can't take your money to your grave.

You will find happiness in this life if you are rich; then what?

The Bible (yes I'm preaching) has a teaching about storing your riches in heaven.
My thought is that you can't take your money to your grave.

You will find happiness in this life if you are rich; then what?

The Bible (yes I'm preaching) has a teaching about storing your riches in heaven.
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Money can't buy happiness, but it sure can pay the rent.

Money isn't going to make the girl(s) I like like me back, nor is money going to be able to solve my crippling insecurities.

At the end of the day, human beings make their own happiness. You can use money as a tool to find happiness, but I don't think money itself is inherently something that can bring happiness.

Happiness takes work. Money usually does too.

If there's a correlation, I think work brings happiness, rather than money.
Money can't buy happiness, but it sure can pay the rent.

Money isn't going to make the girl(s) I like like me back, nor is money going to be able to solve my crippling insecurities.

At the end of the day, human beings make their own happiness. You can use money as a tool to find happiness, but I don't think money itself is inherently something that can bring happiness.

Happiness takes work. Money usually does too.

If there's a correlation, I think work brings happiness, rather than money.
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Money can buy happiness or at least a little peace of mind when it comes to your financial obligations. Maybe not true happiness,but I would settle for false happiness,like being able to buy what I wished.
Money can buy happiness or at least a little peace of mind when it comes to your financial obligations. Maybe not true happiness,but I would settle for false happiness,like being able to buy what I wished.
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The way I see it is.

Happiness isn't a single thing. You can't just say the word "happy" and expect everyone to feel the same feeling.

Happiness to me could be different to happiness for you.

I believe that you can indeed buy happiness but it all comes down to a case by case basis. I don't think everyone will be happy with money, but definitely a lot of people will.

The way I see it is.

Happiness isn't a single thing. You can't just say the word "happy" and expect everyone to feel the same feeling.

Happiness to me could be different to happiness for you.

I believe that you can indeed buy happiness but it all comes down to a case by case basis. I don't think everyone will be happy with money, but definitely a lot of people will.

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Money cannot, in any way, bring you happiness. This stupid guy knows, so take it from me.ness

Eternal happiness comes from surrendering your life to Jesus Christ.

You cannot find this happiness unless you read the Bible
Money cannot, in any way, bring you happiness. This stupid guy knows, so take it from me.ness

Eternal happiness comes from surrendering your life to Jesus Christ.

You cannot find this happiness unless you read the Bible
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Ultrajeff : I think the article completely supports your thoughts about being self-efficient.  If you can pay other people to do things like dishwashing, cleaning the toilets, and all those chores, you can go out and achieve the things you want to.

tRIUNE : Let me play devil's advocate.  What if I'm too busy doing laundry for my three kids so I don't have time to read the Bible?  And if I spend money on a laundry service, now I have time to really explore, digest, and understand the word of Jesus Christ.

Isn't that happiness?  I paid someone else (with money) to do things that otherwise chew up my time and take me further away from the study of the Bible.
Ultrajeff : I think the article completely supports your thoughts about being self-efficient.  If you can pay other people to do things like dishwashing, cleaning the toilets, and all those chores, you can go out and achieve the things you want to.

tRIUNE : Let me play devil's advocate.  What if I'm too busy doing laundry for my three kids so I don't have time to read the Bible?  And if I spend money on a laundry service, now I have time to really explore, digest, and understand the word of Jesus Christ.

Isn't that happiness?  I paid someone else (with money) to do things that otherwise chew up my time and take me further away from the study of the Bible.
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Ghostbear1111 : You will definitely find this happiness in surrendering your life to Christ; I should have included 'you will be much happier in reading the Bible, as well'.
Ghostbear1111 : You will definitely find this happiness in surrendering your life to Christ; I should have included 'you will be much happier in reading the Bible, as well'.
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Money is great to have but I don't like chasing it. It makes me feel bitter, depressed and greedy. I've struggled with this issue for a while now and have concluded I'll never be rich so might as well be happy with the scraps I accumulate and make the best of it. As long as I got a roof over my head and food I'll be relatively happy I think.
Money is great to have but I don't like chasing it. It makes me feel bitter, depressed and greedy. I've struggled with this issue for a while now and have concluded I'll never be rich so might as well be happy with the scraps I accumulate and make the best of it. As long as I got a roof over my head and food I'll be relatively happy I think.
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greed causes of all life on Earth to bee'th so destroyed
the "business" of the rich man is killing all life on Earth
ANY QUESTIONS?
greed causes of war to'n so happen
where'in greed hast sat the throne de'For'st 10,000 years, as of Kings and presidents all across thy world, in every nation -- even today........
we still have'th of troops in the middle east
conflict is brewing in afganistan
north korea -- a ticking time bomb
russia to'n join in on an attack against syria
china and russia to join in on an attack against n korea
india and pakistan are at war with one another
we are currently at war with syria, waiting to
"push the red button" for the GOOD OF ALL PEOPLE
during WW2 there was not a large scale nuclear bomb arsenal and capabilities
when a nuclear missle is shot, it is not just the "retaliation" of only 1 or 2 nuclear missles that will be shot back, but of thousands of nuclear bombs to'n so target every single large city in the united states and every other nation in the Unholy Roman Empire
nuclear warfare is an UNWINNABLE WAR
In God a day can come where'in no longer there't to bee'th of war on Earth any longer
               nor of a need
not of dollar bill in hunger, not in oil well to'st so drink from'st of the Cup of Filth
no longer
                     A New Age of Man
in a Perfect Society
redistribution of the wealth of everyone over 17 million dollars for the good of WE THE PEOPLE, the United States of America.
redistribution of the wealth of everyone over 17 million dollars for the good of We The People of all nations of the world.
...it is time to HEAL the Earth....
///this is ONE WORLD and one people///
MASTER ARCHITECT
for a New Age of Man in a Perfect Society
)))let us retake this world from'st of the rich man before the'f autocratic oligarchical governments of the worldcause ARMAGEDDON to happen  (even in democratic countries practicing corruption "outside" of the democratic procress) .
redistribution of the wealth of everyone over 17 million dollars for the good of We The People of all nations of the world.
it is now time to heal the Earth. God hast so commanded


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greed causes of all life on Earth to bee'th so destroyed
the "business" of the rich man is killing all life on Earth
ANY QUESTIONS?
greed causes of war to'n so happen
where'in greed hast sat the throne de'For'st 10,000 years, as of Kings and presidents all across thy world, in every nation -- even today........
we still have'th of troops in the middle east
conflict is brewing in afganistan
north korea -- a ticking time bomb
russia to'n join in on an attack against syria
china and russia to join in on an attack against n korea
india and pakistan are at war with one another
we are currently at war with syria, waiting to
"push the red button" for the GOOD OF ALL PEOPLE
during WW2 there was not a large scale nuclear bomb arsenal and capabilities
when a nuclear missle is shot, it is not just the "retaliation" of only 1 or 2 nuclear missles that will be shot back, but of thousands of nuclear bombs to'n so target every single large city in the united states and every other nation in the Unholy Roman Empire
nuclear warfare is an UNWINNABLE WAR
In God a day can come where'in no longer there't to bee'th of war on Earth any longer
               nor of a need
not of dollar bill in hunger, not in oil well to'st so drink from'st of the Cup of Filth
no longer
                     A New Age of Man
in a Perfect Society
redistribution of the wealth of everyone over 17 million dollars for the good of WE THE PEOPLE, the United States of America.
redistribution of the wealth of everyone over 17 million dollars for the good of We The People of all nations of the world.
...it is time to HEAL the Earth....
///this is ONE WORLD and one people///
MASTER ARCHITECT
for a New Age of Man in a Perfect Society
)))let us retake this world from'st of the rich man before the'f autocratic oligarchical governments of the worldcause ARMAGEDDON to happen  (even in democratic countries practicing corruption "outside" of the democratic procress) .
redistribution of the wealth of everyone over 17 million dollars for the good of We The People of all nations of the world.
it is now time to heal the Earth. God hast so commanded


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Money is the ultimate neutralizer of Stress. In today's world, people are inundated with constant stress and a ticking clock from a bill or account that is due or abut to be. Everybody is chasing a buck to get their ( Creditors, Land Lord, Credit Card, Mortgage Company) off their backs for another month. Money doesn't bring direct happiness, what it does do is, It allows you to Cross off items from your daily life that bring stress, and by less stress, you should feel happier. Question, Why do people use a fantasy children's book (The Bible), or Religion as a whole, as the only way to Happiness or Salvation? Even in the Bible, it says "Salvation lyeth within."  I guess that's why Jesus was Sheppard, because people are sheep that need guidance?
Money is the ultimate neutralizer of Stress. In today's world, people are inundated with constant stress and a ticking clock from a bill or account that is due or abut to be. Everybody is chasing a buck to get their ( Creditors, Land Lord, Credit Card, Mortgage Company) off their backs for another month. Money doesn't bring direct happiness, what it does do is, It allows you to Cross off items from your daily life that bring stress, and by less stress, you should feel happier. Question, Why do people use a fantasy children's book (The Bible), or Religion as a whole, as the only way to Happiness or Salvation? Even in the Bible, it says "Salvation lyeth within."  I guess that's why Jesus was Sheppard, because people are sheep that need guidance?
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nuggula1 : "Why do people use a fantasy children's book (The Bible)"

Why do you think the Bible is a fantasy?

Please give me the book and verse where within the Bible is written "Salvation lyeth within".
nuggula1 : "Why do people use a fantasy children's book (The Bible)"

Why do you think the Bible is a fantasy?

Please give me the book and verse where within the Bible is written "Salvation lyeth within".
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The Bible is a fantasy book because most of it can't be corroborated.  Most of the books of the Bible were written by people who were not alive when the events they wrote about actually happened. Most Christians view the book as the WORD OF GOD, and shouldn't be questioned. How can that be, most Christians today would call any other non-verified as "Fake News." I'm Sorry for saying Salvation lyeth within was in the Bible, because it is not. I should have said "Not to worship false idles, because that is what money IS!!!
The Bible is a fantasy book because most of it can't be corroborated.  Most of the books of the Bible were written by people who were not alive when the events they wrote about actually happened. Most Christians view the book as the WORD OF GOD, and shouldn't be questioned. How can that be, most Christians today would call any other non-verified as "Fake News." I'm Sorry for saying Salvation lyeth within was in the Bible, because it is not. I should have said "Not to worship false idles, because that is what money IS!!!
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nuggula1 : It can be confirmed though by the Book of Genesis; being the first book of the Bible, God wanted to tell us the answers of creation.

"Most of the books of the Bible were written by people who were not alive when the events they wrote about actually happened"

Actually the entire Bible is inspired by God. If you handwrite a letter, do you write it, or does the pen?

God used men as His pen to write his letter to us (2 Timothy 3:16.


Anyways, I'm posting off-topic..
nuggula1 : It can be confirmed though by the Book of Genesis; being the first book of the Bible, God wanted to tell us the answers of creation.

"Most of the books of the Bible were written by people who were not alive when the events they wrote about actually happened"

Actually the entire Bible is inspired by God. If you handwrite a letter, do you write it, or does the pen?

God used men as His pen to write his letter to us (2 Timothy 3:16.


Anyways, I'm posting off-topic..
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Keep your faith my man. Your answer, didn't disprove my point, it only reaffirmed it. I don't knock anybody for believing in a higher being, or entity, or whatever they want to believe. I just have a problem when people use religion as proof or evidence, or as a means to establish a higher moral authority/or know more than to whomever they are talking to...... For example, I ask you, "Hey Triune, how do you feel abortion?", and .You respond "Well I'm a Christian, and the." As soon as somebody responds like that, all I hear is an adult talking on the Charlie Brown Cartoons. I have a B.A in History,working on my M.A, and more harm than good throughout mankind's history has been done in the name of the LORD. Just under a bunch of different  languages. The question of this thread was Money can bring you happiness?, maybe for you, faith brings you happiness. But why thrust upon somebody, your beliefs? While saying this is the only way to happiness? Your faith wouldn't be admitted for evidence in court, because it doesn't meet the requirements as proof.  But there are still people walking around that think the earth is flat? Light a candle for my soul next Sunday. Peace be with you
Keep your faith my man. Your answer, didn't disprove my point, it only reaffirmed it. I don't knock anybody for believing in a higher being, or entity, or whatever they want to believe. I just have a problem when people use religion as proof or evidence, or as a means to establish a higher moral authority/or know more than to whomever they are talking to...... For example, I ask you, "Hey Triune, how do you feel abortion?", and .You respond "Well I'm a Christian, and the." As soon as somebody responds like that, all I hear is an adult talking on the Charlie Brown Cartoons. I have a B.A in History,working on my M.A, and more harm than good throughout mankind's history has been done in the name of the LORD. Just under a bunch of different  languages. The question of this thread was Money can bring you happiness?, maybe for you, faith brings you happiness. But why thrust upon somebody, your beliefs? While saying this is the only way to happiness? Your faith wouldn't be admitted for evidence in court, because it doesn't meet the requirements as proof.  But there are still people walking around that think the earth is flat? Light a candle for my soul next Sunday. Peace be with you
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