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What are kids learning these days, if they want to kill themselves with suicide bombing?

This happened a few hours ago.

http://www1.voanews.com/english/news/asia/Suicide-Bombing-at-Pakistani-Police-Station--85664772.html

What are your views on Suicide Bombing? How do we stop it?
What are kids learning these days, if they want to kill themselves with suicide bombing?

This happened a few hours ago.

http://www1.voanews.com/english/news/asia/Suicide-Bombing-at-Pakistani-Police-Station--85664772.html

What are your views on Suicide Bombing? How do we stop it?
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Suicide bombing is a result of radical Islam. They believe that if they die in the cause of Jihad then they will automatically go to heaven.

It's not exactly something you can fight very well. Other than killing them all off there is little else you can do.

Islamic beliefs are that they are supposed to spread Islam all over the world by any means necessary. Whether it is conversion by choice or by force. Whether it means killing off everyone that isn't a Muslim. In the end Islam is supposed to take over the world according to what they believe.
Suicide bombing is a result of radical Islam. They believe that if they die in the cause of Jihad then they will automatically go to heaven.

It's not exactly something you can fight very well. Other than killing them all off there is little else you can do.

Islamic beliefs are that they are supposed to spread Islam all over the world by any means necessary. Whether it is conversion by choice or by force. Whether it means killing off everyone that isn't a Muslim. In the end Islam is supposed to take over the world according to what they believe.
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Suicide is against the Islamic religion and is actually being manipulated to have people believe that if they kill themselves they will go to heaven. It is blasphemes and should not be done by children at any rate. *Sigh* this world is slowly killing itself off.
Suicide is against the Islamic religion and is actually being manipulated to have people believe that if they kill themselves they will go to heaven. It is blasphemes and should not be done by children at any rate. *Sigh* this world is slowly killing itself off.
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Originally posted by retro _general
Suicide is against the Islamic religion and is actually being manipulated to have people believe that if they kill themselves they will go to heaven. It is blasphemes and should not be done by children at any rate. *Sigh* this world is slowly killing itself off.


Suicide yes.... but dying for Jihad isn't....

I agree that the truth has been twisted to convince people that suicide bombing in the name of Jihad is okay.
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Suicide is against the Islamic religion and is actually being manipulated to have people believe that if they kill themselves they will go to heaven. It is blasphemes and should not be done by children at any rate. *Sigh* this world is slowly killing itself off.


Suicide yes.... but dying for Jihad isn't....

I agree that the truth has been twisted to convince people that suicide bombing in the name of Jihad is okay.
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Man, that is messed up. Believing that dying for Jihad is nonsense to me, and people are killing themselves off for false beliefs. They must have been disappointed when they didn't go to heaven.
Man, that is messed up. Believing that dying for Jihad is nonsense to me, and people are killing themselves off for false beliefs. They must have been disappointed when they didn't go to heaven.
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that is completely messed up. But also if you study the religion a little, you will find that a lot of stuff like treating women as lesser people, and suicide bombings,and honor killing, and all that crap is not part of the religion. it is man's perversion of the religion. In fact, my understanding is the morals in their holy book are a lot like the ones in the bible.
that is completely messed up. But also if you study the religion a little, you will find that a lot of stuff like treating women as lesser people, and suicide bombings,and honor killing, and all that crap is not part of the religion. it is man's perversion of the religion. In fact, my understanding is the morals in their holy book are a lot like the ones in the bible.
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metal is exactly right, I'm also pretty sure that all those things are part of messed up laws that they made in those countries, but that happens with every religion, it becomes perverted and twisted to be used by power hungry people and zealots.
Their beliefs are no more valid or invalid then any of religion, but lets face it, if there was mass media and our technology around at the times of the crusades then everyone would be saying bad things about christians or whatever.
metal is exactly right, I'm also pretty sure that all those things are part of messed up laws that they made in those countries, but that happens with every religion, it becomes perverted and twisted to be used by power hungry people and zealots.
Their beliefs are no more valid or invalid then any of religion, but lets face it, if there was mass media and our technology around at the times of the crusades then everyone would be saying bad things about christians or whatever.
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Suicide bombing is all part of radical islam. It is called being a martyr. The way to stop it would be to halt the teachings of islam. For Muslims to die for their faith is one of the highest most honors that is splendidly rewarded in their view.
Suicide bombing is all part of radical islam. It is called being a martyr. The way to stop it would be to halt the teachings of islam. For Muslims to die for their faith is one of the highest most honors that is splendidly rewarded in their view.
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Hoochman : Gee, thanks for not paying attention and adding nothing to the conversation. I just love it when you do that .
Look Hoochman, when you post, read the posts before you. That way you'll know what you're talking about and hopefully will stop spamming.

Now, back on topic... I wish someone would tell them this . When Christians and atheists and pretty much everyone else knows their religion better than they do, these Muslims have some serious problems. I can't believe how much this suicide bombing stuff happens... it's terrible, but the only way to stop it is to let the Muslims know that that isn't exactly what was meant by "dying for Jihad"... it's terrible how extreme these people are.
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Look Hoochman, when you post, read the posts before you. That way you'll know what you're talking about and hopefully will stop spamming.

Now, back on topic... I wish someone would tell them this . When Christians and atheists and pretty much everyone else knows their religion better than they do, these Muslims have some serious problems. I can't believe how much this suicide bombing stuff happens... it's terrible, but the only way to stop it is to let the Muslims know that that isn't exactly what was meant by "dying for Jihad"... it's terrible how extreme these people are.
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The biggest problem I have with this is that it puts no value on human life and I think when a religion allows you to kill someone then I think that religion has lost it's way.

metal572 : yes and no. There is a lot in the Quran that can be used to justify what some of them are doing. I'm not saying they've got it right when they interpret the certain passages the way they do... but if you didn't know any better you would think the people teaching you were right. I'm not saying I agree with what they are doing... but the blame has to be placed on the right people. The people killing themselves "for the cause" are usually brainwashed into thinking it's worthwhile. If the cause was so important then the leaders would be on the front line blowing themselves up too.
The biggest problem I have with this is that it puts no value on human life and I think when a religion allows you to kill someone then I think that religion has lost it's way.

metal572 : yes and no. There is a lot in the Quran that can be used to justify what some of them are doing. I'm not saying they've got it right when they interpret the certain passages the way they do... but if you didn't know any better you would think the people teaching you were right. I'm not saying I agree with what they are doing... but the blame has to be placed on the right people. The people killing themselves "for the cause" are usually brainwashed into thinking it's worthwhile. If the cause was so important then the leaders would be on the front line blowing themselves up too.
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geeogree : You have a good point. but there's also passages in the bible that can justify bad things if manipulated certain ways. I am just saying its the people that are bad and not the religion.
geeogree : You have a good point. but there's also passages in the bible that can justify bad things if manipulated certain ways. I am just saying its the people that are bad and not the religion.
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I recommend watching this documentary it is informative on the Islamic people and is also very funny at sometimes. Its from the guy Morgan Spurlock who did the "Super Size Me" documentary.

The documentary is called "Where in the World is osama bin laden?", and in my opinion is one of the best documentary's I have seen in a while. Here is the link, and its on hulu so you dont have to download anything or go on some sketchy site.

http://www.hulu.com/watch/157859/where-in-the-world-is-osama-bin-laden
If you have a hour and a half of free time definitely check it out.
I recommend watching this documentary it is informative on the Islamic people and is also very funny at sometimes. Its from the guy Morgan Spurlock who did the "Super Size Me" documentary.

The documentary is called "Where in the World is osama bin laden?", and in my opinion is one of the best documentary's I have seen in a while. Here is the link, and its on hulu so you dont have to download anything or go on some sketchy site.

http://www.hulu.com/watch/157859/where-in-the-world-is-osama-bin-laden
If you have a hour and a half of free time definitely check it out.
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bah, it's US only =/.

I'll find it somewhere else at some point. I liked his super size me documentary... although there are some flaws in his argument with that one... I understand what he was trying to do. I'll definitely check that one out if I can find a copy I can watch for free in Canada.
bah, it's US only =/.

I'll find it somewhere else at some point. I liked his super size me documentary... although there are some flaws in his argument with that one... I understand what he was trying to do. I'll definitely check that one out if I can find a copy I can watch for free in Canada.
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geeogree : Yea its nothing groundbreaking, but its definitely worth a watch. And that is crazy that you cant even watch hulu in Canada. I would put up a couple more links i know of but if hulu is blocked im sure that they would be blocked also.
geeogree : Yea its nothing groundbreaking, but its definitely worth a watch. And that is crazy that you cant even watch hulu in Canada. I would put up a couple more links i know of but if hulu is blocked im sure that they would be blocked also.
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just so you guys know the christians did something very similiar with the crusades. Granted suicide and bombs weren't used, but blades blood and war still were. So when you go to fight to spread your religion, as long as its the right one you still get to go to heaven?
just so you guys know the christians did something very similiar with the crusades. Granted suicide and bombs weren't used, but blades blood and war still were. So when you go to fight to spread your religion, as long as its the right one you still get to go to heaven?
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fightorace : that was a very ignorant statement on your part you know. Have you read the Bible?

The people during the Crusades who did that are not all that different from many of the Muslims today. Most can't actually read the holy book that is being preached from (or are allowed to) and are/were brainwashed into believing that control of the holy land was essential. Was it right? Do you hear Christians touting how great it was that Catholics 1000 years ago were killing Jews and Muslims and anyone else who got in their way just so they could hang out in Jerusalem?
fightorace : that was a very ignorant statement on your part you know. Have you read the Bible?

The people during the Crusades who did that are not all that different from many of the Muslims today. Most can't actually read the holy book that is being preached from (or are allowed to) and are/were brainwashed into believing that control of the holy land was essential. Was it right? Do you hear Christians touting how great it was that Catholics 1000 years ago were killing Jews and Muslims and anyone else who got in their way just so they could hang out in Jerusalem?
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It not ignorant in fact you proved my point, the Islams today are being mistreated the same way christians were back then. They are training these people as kids. What else are they supposed to believe???
It not ignorant in fact you proved my point, the Islams today are being mistreated the same way christians were back then. They are training these people as kids. What else are they supposed to believe???
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"So when you go to fight to spread your religion, as long as its the right one you still get to go to heaven? "

Well, my problem with what you said was that line right there. No matter how just you may think your cause is.... going on the offensive to spread your religion through violence and death is wrong in every case and goes against what both Christianity and Islam teach.
"So when you go to fight to spread your religion, as long as its the right one you still get to go to heaven? "

Well, my problem with what you said was that line right there. No matter how just you may think your cause is.... going on the offensive to spread your religion through violence and death is wrong in every case and goes against what both Christianity and Islam teach.
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geeogree : See I think it's just a misunderstanding, I was posing that as a question not a statement. My point being that Islam is kinda going thru what christians did during the crusades, and maybe just to remember that before u go bashing a religion too hard, not at all am I saying that it is okay to wage war in the name of religion.
geeogree : See I think it's just a misunderstanding, I was posing that as a question not a statement. My point being that Islam is kinda going thru what christians did during the crusades, and maybe just to remember that before u go bashing a religion too hard, not at all am I saying that it is okay to wage war in the name of religion.
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Actually BigNate I did look and no one had post quite like mine. Back on topic, I've read the koran, and it does tell you to do it, it also says in regards to killing other people even says how to do it.
Actually BigNate I did look and no one had post quite like mine. Back on topic, I've read the koran, and it does tell you to do it, it also says in regards to killing other people even says how to do it.
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