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Innocent Town Address
12-14-15 04:24 PM
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I think a post like this is long-overdue, and I've been lazy with getting something like this out.
I don't know why. Maybe I just don't want to admit we have an activity problem. Maybe I don't want to admit I haven't been doing my share. Maybe it's something else. But the evidence is all right there. Innocent Town is very inactive recently, and so am I. Only five threads have been posted in since the beginning of November. Those five threads are my ask anything, The Dump, The Innocent Town Hall of Fame (which I need to work on), the ^< game and a throwaway thread that I've honestly never cared a lot for, but keep it around because you like it. So, what do we do from here? We have a lot of options. I'll list them out, in no particular order. 1. Get active - Start posting things, anything about this forum. It can be a new game, it can be the revival of an old one, it can be anything that would not violate the by-laws of this forum. The only thing is, it cannot involve me hosting something, because right now, I just do not have the time or energy for it. This would need to be a community endeavor. 2. Have Pacman host more games - I don't know where Pacman is at mentally or emotionally or any of that right now, because as I mentioned earlier, I just do not have any time or energy for Vizzed right now. All my energy goes into my real life endeavors, and I can't spend more than a few minutes here responding to PMs and making a few off hand posts. This is one of my few days off, so I'm able to make this post more detailed, but anyone who has been watching me lately knows this is an outlier right now. That all said, Pac is one of the two people in this forum who are currently approved to host a game in Innocent Town. As such, he would be the logical person to host more games. Again, this cannot involve me instead, because time/energy. 3. Bring in someone new - This would mean having to have an app to determine who would become the new host of a game in Innocent Town. They would not become a mod of the forum. Only myself, pacman, and mlb789 are going to be mods. I have enough time and energy to come in and remove spam, flaming, and other non-sense, and I don't need to disperse the power of the forum. As it is, we have enough mods, especially considering how inactive the place is. This new host would have to be approved at the least by myself and pacman, as this forum is a joint venture between the two of us. Often times, Innocent Town is seen as my forum, and there's nothing wrong with that. But pacman is an important partner in making all of this happen, and his value is often understated by those who do not know of our backstory. This new host, I cannot stress enough, WOULD NOT BE A MODERATOR. They'd just be hosting official Innocent Town games. 4. Embrace our Inactivity - We could just do nothing, and hope I have more free time in the future to revive the activity of this forum. It's unlikely, but it could be the simplest solution out there, since it would mean literally changing nothing. We would not be forcing a change, we would not go in a different direction, we wouldn't do anything we aren't already doing. It would mean things that exist would continue to exist, even if they wouldn't really be living. 5. Sell the Forum - I know, this one just seems crazy, but hear me out. If I'm inactive, and pacman is inactive, that means this forum literally cannot function if the community doesn't do something (like I suggest in Option 1). If we aren't doing anything, and you aren't doing anything, then why does the forum exist anymore? I'm not saying it's time, but ALL things come to an end, and who is to say when a logical ending point for this is? I'm not saying we "should" do this, just that if enough support was behind it, I would understand, and we could discuss this more in depth. 6. Other - We're not entirely sure ourselves right now. We can imagine this isn't a high priority for anyone, and that's fine. You might have a suggestion! If you do, maybe you should tell us. The first and foremost thing on my mind is everyone's level of fun. Innocent Town only exists because it is fun, and inactivity is not fun. If Innocent Town isn't fun, then Innocent Town isn't truly alive. And if Innocent Town isn't truly alive, then it isn't really Innocent Town at all. I really want to hear your thoughts as to what you think we should do. There won't be a poll attached to this, because this isn't a vote. This is merely a discussion point to talk about our options. If we are all split, maybe we will have a vote in the future. But this isn't a vote. Nothing official will be decided with this thread. I don't know why. Maybe I just don't want to admit we have an activity problem. Maybe I don't want to admit I haven't been doing my share. Maybe it's something else. But the evidence is all right there. Innocent Town is very inactive recently, and so am I. Only five threads have been posted in since the beginning of November. Those five threads are my ask anything, The Dump, The Innocent Town Hall of Fame (which I need to work on), the ^< game and a throwaway thread that I've honestly never cared a lot for, but keep it around because you like it. So, what do we do from here? We have a lot of options. I'll list them out, in no particular order. 1. Get active - Start posting things, anything about this forum. It can be a new game, it can be the revival of an old one, it can be anything that would not violate the by-laws of this forum. The only thing is, it cannot involve me hosting something, because right now, I just do not have the time or energy for it. This would need to be a community endeavor. 2. Have Pacman host more games - I don't know where Pacman is at mentally or emotionally or any of that right now, because as I mentioned earlier, I just do not have any time or energy for Vizzed right now. All my energy goes into my real life endeavors, and I can't spend more than a few minutes here responding to PMs and making a few off hand posts. This is one of my few days off, so I'm able to make this post more detailed, but anyone who has been watching me lately knows this is an outlier right now. That all said, Pac is one of the two people in this forum who are currently approved to host a game in Innocent Town. As such, he would be the logical person to host more games. Again, this cannot involve me instead, because time/energy. 3. Bring in someone new - This would mean having to have an app to determine who would become the new host of a game in Innocent Town. They would not become a mod of the forum. Only myself, pacman, and mlb789 are going to be mods. I have enough time and energy to come in and remove spam, flaming, and other non-sense, and I don't need to disperse the power of the forum. As it is, we have enough mods, especially considering how inactive the place is. This new host would have to be approved at the least by myself and pacman, as this forum is a joint venture between the two of us. Often times, Innocent Town is seen as my forum, and there's nothing wrong with that. But pacman is an important partner in making all of this happen, and his value is often understated by those who do not know of our backstory. This new host, I cannot stress enough, WOULD NOT BE A MODERATOR. They'd just be hosting official Innocent Town games. 4. Embrace our Inactivity - We could just do nothing, and hope I have more free time in the future to revive the activity of this forum. It's unlikely, but it could be the simplest solution out there, since it would mean literally changing nothing. We would not be forcing a change, we would not go in a different direction, we wouldn't do anything we aren't already doing. It would mean things that exist would continue to exist, even if they wouldn't really be living. 5. Sell the Forum - I know, this one just seems crazy, but hear me out. If I'm inactive, and pacman is inactive, that means this forum literally cannot function if the community doesn't do something (like I suggest in Option 1). If we aren't doing anything, and you aren't doing anything, then why does the forum exist anymore? I'm not saying it's time, but ALL things come to an end, and who is to say when a logical ending point for this is? I'm not saying we "should" do this, just that if enough support was behind it, I would understand, and we could discuss this more in depth. 6. Other - We're not entirely sure ourselves right now. We can imagine this isn't a high priority for anyone, and that's fine. You might have a suggestion! If you do, maybe you should tell us. The first and foremost thing on my mind is everyone's level of fun. Innocent Town only exists because it is fun, and inactivity is not fun. If Innocent Town isn't fun, then Innocent Town isn't truly alive. And if Innocent Town isn't truly alive, then it isn't really Innocent Town at all. I really want to hear your thoughts as to what you think we should do. There won't be a poll attached to this, because this isn't a vote. This is merely a discussion point to talk about our options. If we are all split, maybe we will have a vote in the future. But this isn't a vote. Nothing official will be decided with this thread. |
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12-14-15 08:38 PM
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Part of the reason it's been lacking activity should be because of the site wide activity bug. I say you should just wait it out, the site in general had like an 30% post and views drop with a lot of it happening in November, it seems that there's just not that many people on at one time any more. Activity has been rising since December steadily so seeing what happens should be the best thing to do.
Aside for adding new games and stuff, selling part of the forum might not be a bad idea, let someone bring in another genre that both sides can get boosted from. Aside for adding new games and stuff, selling part of the forum might not be a bad idea, let someone bring in another genre that both sides can get boosted from. |
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12-14-15 11:43 PM
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zanderlex :
I considered the activity drop on the site, but the more I think about it, the more I think that Innocent Town's inactivity is a large part of the site-wide drop, and it's cause-and-effect, but not the one you are thinking of. You seem to think that because activity is down site-wide, it has to be down here too, whereas I think site-wide activity is down in part due to our own inactivity. Many of the super active members of the Innocent Town forum (myself, pacman, and a few other core members) have dropped dramatically. We've gone from being able to post 250 times per month between the two of us (being Pac and myself) to only putting up roughly 150 posts between the entirety of what I would call the IT club (which is far more than 2 members). A large part of this drop in activity from us is our lack of threads. As most of our threads are games like Mafia or MM, it would stand to reason our drop in activity is due to a lack of games. The fact we have a lack of games comes back to what I'm saying. I don't think we're suffering because Vizzed is suffering. I honestly am of the belief that Vizzed is suffering because we are. A game of Mafia can be good for about 300-500 posts a month, depending on the game. Murder Mystery gets about half that output. Our most popular non "game" thread, ^< is only worth about 20 posts a month at this point. We've dropped off a cliff, and we did so before Vizzed suffered their own activity crash. The TDV was active site wide. It wasn't really active in here. This leads me to believe one of two things. 1. Our own inactivity has zero to do with Vizzed's. 2. Vizzed's inactivity is (partially) a cause for Vizzed's inactivity. I considered the activity drop on the site, but the more I think about it, the more I think that Innocent Town's inactivity is a large part of the site-wide drop, and it's cause-and-effect, but not the one you are thinking of. You seem to think that because activity is down site-wide, it has to be down here too, whereas I think site-wide activity is down in part due to our own inactivity. Many of the super active members of the Innocent Town forum (myself, pacman, and a few other core members) have dropped dramatically. We've gone from being able to post 250 times per month between the two of us (being Pac and myself) to only putting up roughly 150 posts between the entirety of what I would call the IT club (which is far more than 2 members). A large part of this drop in activity from us is our lack of threads. As most of our threads are games like Mafia or MM, it would stand to reason our drop in activity is due to a lack of games. The fact we have a lack of games comes back to what I'm saying. I don't think we're suffering because Vizzed is suffering. I honestly am of the belief that Vizzed is suffering because we are. A game of Mafia can be good for about 300-500 posts a month, depending on the game. Murder Mystery gets about half that output. Our most popular non "game" thread, ^< is only worth about 20 posts a month at this point. We've dropped off a cliff, and we did so before Vizzed suffered their own activity crash. The TDV was active site wide. It wasn't really active in here. This leads me to believe one of two things. 1. Our own inactivity has zero to do with Vizzed's. 2. Vizzed's inactivity is (partially) a cause for Vizzed's inactivity. |
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12-15-15 12:21 AM
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I won't let you sell this forum. I gifted it to you and Innocent Town is so much a part of Vizzed to me that I can't imagine that happening.
I can't really think of what to do though. Another round of a game would be great but if the majority of the people you expect to have in here playing aren't around then I don't see it being successful. Still, I'm against you becoming active again until I pass you. You aren't allowed to hit 25,000 first! I can't really think of what to do though. Another round of a game would be great but if the majority of the people you expect to have in here playing aren't around then I don't see it being successful. Still, I'm against you becoming active again until I pass you. You aren't allowed to hit 25,000 first! |
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I'll try to come up with some games that could be playable on a forum.... I'm pretty much always involved with most of the competitions so i might as well.... Plus it might just make me actively want to post on Vizzed again... I know i've never been a "big" poster, honestly... that sounds like a chore and something that for me anyways, would be so mindless and boring, I'd have more fun just not posting at all.... but if anyone knows that if i actually decide to care about something.. then well.. i can be pretty scary.. lol..... I still stick to my reasoning for the whole site inactivity... Forums are dying.. and let's be honest it's getting rarer and rarer for younger people to actively seek them out as well. Most of the active users have been here a while as well. and i'd even argue that the site isn't drastically less active.. it's just well anyone else get the feeling there's nothing really to post about? I still stick to my reasoning for the whole site inactivity... Forums are dying.. and let's be honest it's getting rarer and rarer for younger people to actively seek them out as well. Most of the active users have been here a while as well. and i'd even argue that the site isn't drastically less active.. it's just well anyone else get the feeling there's nothing really to post about? |
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