So Over the next few days I am going to be doing calculations based on my knowledge of both of the series. I know a lot more about dragon ball so I may ask for help from time to time.

For reference ssj1 50x base ssj2 100x base ssj3 400x base. 

Ok so to start i will be using beginning of battle of the gods goku. Goku's last known power level was 3 million. During the battle of the gods move it is stated that goku base still could not beat freiza final form. Freiza final form full power was 120 million.  During the buu saga for 7 years he trained in increased gravity (with weighted clothing) in his ssj2 then ssj3 state. This training pushes your body to absolute limit. Then in the time leading up to battle of the gods he continued this training. So i assume that he was at least slightly ahead of frieza'a 50% mark of 60 million. Because of all this I am putting goku at 80 million base form. ( In all truth i feel his power should be closer to 100 million but to make it unbiased i lowered it a bit) 

Now with all that cleared up I will start on speed calculations. I started by finding a reliable feat roshi catching ak47 bullets with a power level of 139.(roshi did not do this in the manga but he is shown dodging bullets with the same power level. Goku is also seen deflecting bullets and dodging bullets with a lower power level of 50 so i went with the higher one) The bullets he caught moved at a rate of 715 meters/s i then converted that to kilometers. This was the result  .715 kilometers. I divided goku's power level by roshi's. Then i multiplied that result by .715 to get his speed. then i divided the result by the speed of light.
 goku speed
base 0.381028510524913402611 the speed of light
ssj 1 19.05142552624567013055 the speed of light 
ssj 2 38.1028510524913402611 the speed of light
ssj 3 152.4114042099653610444 the speed of light 

This surprised me I did not expect for him to be that fast.
ok on to strength  because I could not find a reliable combat strength feat I am just doing general strength.

Goku with a power level of 10 picked up bulma's car. The car in question was a small compact car like a fiat or a mini coop.  For balancing I picked the lighter of the two cars.  The weight of the fiat varies  so I went right in the middle with 2000 lbs. then I divided gokus power level by 10. Then i multiplied the result by the weight of the car. Then i ran it though the sayion forms.
 base lifting strength 16 000 000  000 lbs
ssj1 lifting strength 800 000 000 000 lbs
ssj2 lifting strength   1 600 000 000 000 lbs
ssj3 lifting strength    6 400 000 000 000 lbs
 so there is goku's lifting strength 

They already did this in Death Battle.

Hidden Phantom : death battle used things that  were not drawn for scale and that were not drawn equaly for speed they used filler for strength and they made goku weaker in ssj. They also did not use one version of super man they just mashed a few together. So deathbattle isnt reallt reliable their list of mistakes goes on.

Yeah, I tend to take most of the death battle fights with a grain of salt. They either overpower one character and give them access to a multitude of abilities, or they completely sap another character and leave them with the very basics. I mainly watch them for entertainment purposes. Take the Gaara vs Toph battle for instance, they gave Toph access to most of her abilities and they didn't give Gaara his sand bullet ability which allows him to launch sand faster than the speed of sound. Although Toph is able to detect movements traveling at the speed of sound, actually reacting to it is entirely different. 

I don't watch Avatar much, and I may be biased more towards Naruto, but I could still tell that their research wasn't very extensive. 


Good luck with your calculations, if you need any help, don't be shy to ask questions. 

Razor-987 : thanks man right now I am just tracking down feats so i can calculate goku then i will start on super man

In everything I have seen, Goku is far superior and I will always believe that, though I have no proof to validate that other than the death battle fight which, why not have ssj4 in there.  I do know a little about Superman's powers as well though, and he probably the best candidate for Goku.  They are both protectors, so in the long run, neither of them would lose.  It's just really fun to see them fight, and I have seen them both lose.  Great choice of men to do battle

blasife : "Don't tell me how to do my job!" A quote from the guy in charge of death battle.

 While I think you are doing this to see for a good reason lets face it. The debates and the arguments will go on for years on who will win.

 And to be honest you might go wrong somewhere and just mess up everything. So you never know you might be completely wrong.:

Still good luck in doing this.

awesomeguy279 : thats one of the reasons why I am posting exactly what equations I am doing so just in case i mess up someone can correct me, and if the death battle guy has that attitude when he is wrong he should be fired . he just mashed together super man forms and then he made goku weaker in ssj, and used filler for goku's stats. 


I'm not doing this to end any arugments i wanted to do it in my spare time and i didn't see any reason to keep it to myself.  

awesomeguy279 : thats one of the reasons why I am posting exactly what equations I am doing so just in case i mess up someone can correct me, and if the death battle guy has that attitude when he is wrong he should be fired . he just mashed together super man forms and then he made goku weaker in ssj, and used filler for goku's stats 

blasife : no idea why that one posted twice 

lordbelial669 : i didnt include gt since it is ignored in battle of the gods and thats what goku I am using.

lordbelial669 : i didnt include gt since it is ignored in battle of the gods and thats what goku I am using.

It's really cool that you are taking a crack at it as well. Are you going to use Goku before or after his god transformation? Either way, it's awesome that so many people are fascinated by this match up.  I look forward to seeing the results of your hard work and efforts.  Keep us posted and good luck

lordbelial669 : before since we have no idea what his power is after

Razor-987 : so I am trying to track down a strength feat in dbz or db that is cannon. If you spot any thing could you link me?

This post was assumed to be plagiarism, but after further research, it was found that this was his original content, despite the information being found on a different site. This was a mistake on my part, and this post was unjustly ignored and edited. However, I would like to remind everyone that if they have content from a different website that they are posting here, they should include within their post that they're using their own information from a different website.

Supermatt6534 : thanks I was looking for a goku and sups combat strength feat  still trying to find those but I think we can agree that goku's combat speed is well over light speed 

Hey. They are redoing this battle in death battle because of the 5,000 complaining fans. If that does not please you I do not know what will.

From what ive been reading your doing caculations on eachs speed,power and such?
one thing ive gotta say, supermans power does not continue to grow over time.
gokus does, which means even if superman beats him his power would grow because of it correct?
as its the nature of a sayin.

not sure if im off here topic wise or not, but just tossing that in.
but honestly not sure who would win. but best guess if it was multiple battles goku would sooner or later win.

looking foward to seeing ur end results ^w^

shadowkat092 : yeah that is true because of zenkai boost but most people see this as a fight to the death