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12-12-14 08:15 PM
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What would you do in a world without easy to access food, large governments of any kind and no great technology? A world with no organized governments where people survive with their wits.

Who would you be and how would you about surviving by yourself?

Without Governments, people will do as they please. Some will get hooked on Drugs and be unable to compete with the rest. Others will become heartless "villains" looking to steal and pillage to support themselves.

Some would band together in hopes of increasing their odds, and even fall prey to backstabbing.

Finding real allies may be hard, thanks to a few things though, like human empathy, it won't be impossible.

Some people would look out for each other, but tend to keep to themselves.

Others may try and organize something. A system that would one day become a truly recognizable force of power. A faction like the first city states we first saw appear in Mesopotamia.


Thus bringing a new kind of play into this deadly game of life.

Such power groups may give their power to one man, a leader, others maintain independence and just generally look out for each other, forming the first libertarian communities.


If God is real, and no Bible was found hanging around, how would you know about Him?

Would you be someone like Maniiḷaq?

Or would you believe stories passed down by your parents about perfect humans who lived in a beautiful garden?



Would physiology and deeper sciences have any meaning to us?

Or in such a world, would we all be better off dead?


How would you react in such a world.

Please state how you would in an area without large organized communities, and if would like, how you would live in an area with at least 4 city states. Potentially opposing one another. Possibly opposing you if you had your own faction.

Describe your circumstances. How you would live. Who you would trust.


What would you do in a world without easy to access food, large governments of any kind and no great technology? A world with no organized governments where people survive with their wits.

Who would you be and how would you about surviving by yourself?

Without Governments, people will do as they please. Some will get hooked on Drugs and be unable to compete with the rest. Others will become heartless "villains" looking to steal and pillage to support themselves.

Some would band together in hopes of increasing their odds, and even fall prey to backstabbing.

Finding real allies may be hard, thanks to a few things though, like human empathy, it won't be impossible.

Some people would look out for each other, but tend to keep to themselves.

Others may try and organize something. A system that would one day become a truly recognizable force of power. A faction like the first city states we first saw appear in Mesopotamia.


Thus bringing a new kind of play into this deadly game of life.

Such power groups may give their power to one man, a leader, others maintain independence and just generally look out for each other, forming the first libertarian communities.


If God is real, and no Bible was found hanging around, how would you know about Him?

Would you be someone like Maniiḷaq?

Or would you believe stories passed down by your parents about perfect humans who lived in a beautiful garden?



Would physiology and deeper sciences have any meaning to us?

Or in such a world, would we all be better off dead?


How would you react in such a world.

Please state how you would in an area without large organized communities, and if would like, how you would live in an area with at least 4 city states. Potentially opposing one another. Possibly opposing you if you had your own faction.

Describe your circumstances. How you would live. Who you would trust.
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12-12-14 08:32 PM
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Something like this would never of happened.

https://www.vizzed.com/boards/thread.php?id=82713

I don't think there would be internet either, or large colonization.
Something like this would never of happened.

https://www.vizzed.com/boards/thread.php?id=82713

I don't think there would be internet either, or large colonization.
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12-13-14 03:11 PM
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I experience some of these and heres your answer

I would be me and I survived by doing things that are considered wrong by society.

about that god, no one told me of what he is or why he such great so its not possible to know him and that's why many people don't care that much about religion they only use it has a way to earn stuff.

its impossible to be Maniiḷaq, everyone lives a different live and way.

stories about perfect lands kind of breaks the idea of not knowing who god is besides stories change people in many ways its not possible to make a story that will have the same impact.

physiology and sciences is a mystery who knows why its even there

if we are dead then what is consider dead, in the living world, dead is non-moving living beings, what about when we die. Does the undead consider dead has a silly thing or does dead have no meaning.

we don't know anything about it so no answer can be given

now this is talking about my live so ill just stop before it gets people angry.
I experience some of these and heres your answer

I would be me and I survived by doing things that are considered wrong by society.

about that god, no one told me of what he is or why he such great so its not possible to know him and that's why many people don't care that much about religion they only use it has a way to earn stuff.

its impossible to be Maniiḷaq, everyone lives a different live and way.

stories about perfect lands kind of breaks the idea of not knowing who god is besides stories change people in many ways its not possible to make a story that will have the same impact.

physiology and sciences is a mystery who knows why its even there

if we are dead then what is consider dead, in the living world, dead is non-moving living beings, what about when we die. Does the undead consider dead has a silly thing or does dead have no meaning.

we don't know anything about it so no answer can be given

now this is talking about my live so ill just stop before it gets people angry.
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Humans are social animals by nature and we'd naturally band together with others to maximize our opportunity to survive.  Look around the world.  All cultures, some who have never contacted others, created villages and bands of people who work together to survive.  It's in our nature and it is what we're designed, as animals, to do.  

I would meet with other like-minded people and we'd put our skills together to survive.  

I think groups of people would band together and create villages and go from there.  A large group of people is trying to survive and other large groups of people are doing the same thing.  Looking at it from an economics standpoint, we'd specialize in certain requirements to live and trade with other city-states, either knowledge or goods.  That way, you now have a few groups of people who work together for the greater survival and culture grows from there.

I would trust no one until they proved themselves.  Trust isn't a big deal to me but I would rely on what others have to offer to bring things to the table.  It all depends.  Are we talking society falling apart right now or this is from the start of humankind, but we have the knowledge and language skills of now?
Humans are social animals by nature and we'd naturally band together with others to maximize our opportunity to survive.  Look around the world.  All cultures, some who have never contacted others, created villages and bands of people who work together to survive.  It's in our nature and it is what we're designed, as animals, to do.  

I would meet with other like-minded people and we'd put our skills together to survive.  

I think groups of people would band together and create villages and go from there.  A large group of people is trying to survive and other large groups of people are doing the same thing.  Looking at it from an economics standpoint, we'd specialize in certain requirements to live and trade with other city-states, either knowledge or goods.  That way, you now have a few groups of people who work together for the greater survival and culture grows from there.

I would trust no one until they proved themselves.  Trust isn't a big deal to me but I would rely on what others have to offer to bring things to the table.  It all depends.  Are we talking society falling apart right now or this is from the start of humankind, but we have the knowledge and language skills of now?
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warmaker :

I was kindof talking like the start of humankind, not so much an apocalyptic aftermath, or else people would have guns, and a few high tech devices, at least until they wore out.





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I was kindof talking like the start of humankind, not so much an apocalyptic aftermath, or else people would have guns, and a few high tech devices, at least until they wore out.
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Sword legion :
I've actually thought about this a lot recently, but I'd do just as the people of old did, I know how to forge swords, I've done it before. I'd make a sword and make some ring mail or chain mail armor, of course not before I went mining or found some sort of metal somewhere. I'd trust myself and only myself, I'd then go find some boars or some sort of food eating device, I'd probably find me a nice flat place near a river and set up some sort of settlement there, camp out in the house like some sort of old cranky hermit or something.

I've been iffy on God and the Bible as it contradicts itself multiple times, plus the nowadays hardcore Christians have really turned me away from the whole idea. I mean I have nothing against anyone who do believe, in fact my best friend does. If He DID exist though and we had no bible or sorts, there really not much we could actually do, unless some sort of Profit came around and told everyone, and we all know how that worked out.

If I did find other people, I may let them build close to me and form some sort of town, as long as I can actually trust them not to pull a U turn and stab me in the back, of course I wouldn't know such a thing until I learned a lot about them and got to know them a bit before letting them do so.

If I found out that four other cities opposed me, I'd set up some sort of military to protect us, of course, I'd be in it. On the off chance I wouldn't know and they tried to take us by surprise, I don't think we could really defend ourselves, but that all depends on their own military.

I dunno, man, but that's how I feel about it all. It wouldn't be too hard, we used to do it before back in the feudal ages and such. What about you? What would you do?
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I've actually thought about this a lot recently, but I'd do just as the people of old did, I know how to forge swords, I've done it before. I'd make a sword and make some ring mail or chain mail armor, of course not before I went mining or found some sort of metal somewhere. I'd trust myself and only myself, I'd then go find some boars or some sort of food eating device, I'd probably find me a nice flat place near a river and set up some sort of settlement there, camp out in the house like some sort of old cranky hermit or something.

I've been iffy on God and the Bible as it contradicts itself multiple times, plus the nowadays hardcore Christians have really turned me away from the whole idea. I mean I have nothing against anyone who do believe, in fact my best friend does. If He DID exist though and we had no bible or sorts, there really not much we could actually do, unless some sort of Profit came around and told everyone, and we all know how that worked out.

If I did find other people, I may let them build close to me and form some sort of town, as long as I can actually trust them not to pull a U turn and stab me in the back, of course I wouldn't know such a thing until I learned a lot about them and got to know them a bit before letting them do so.

If I found out that four other cities opposed me, I'd set up some sort of military to protect us, of course, I'd be in it. On the off chance I wouldn't know and they tried to take us by surprise, I don't think we could really defend ourselves, but that all depends on their own military.

I dunno, man, but that's how I feel about it all. It wouldn't be too hard, we used to do it before back in the feudal ages and such. What about you? What would you do?
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Netrmbius :

Well, as for the God thing, I guess I would be worried about the truth, and what's right an wrong. I guess there would have to be a God for all this to be possible. It would be reasonably important enough for me to find out the truth on such matters, whether it be from tales of others about a perfect garden, even if I had never seen it, perhaps this older generation hadn't made it up. Either way I see no way out of there being a creator. Hopefully He would favor me, and I could contact Him somehow. If I got really desperate, I might just cry out to Him. If he really is God, then He could hear me, right?

As for living on this planet with others, that might be a chore. May be better off on your own the entire time. Rather than settling on piece of land, just move through the forest and plains. Hunting what comes your way and being a grand adventurer. But such a lifestyle brings no wealth, or land. Certainly not a family. If marriage is a part of human culture commonly, then I suppose I would do it too. Multiple wives, or a wife for only a small amount of time feels loyal to me, I wouldn't do it. Perhaps I would watch others and learn from their mistakes or success. That would be fun.

I wouldn't want to just team up with anyone. Habituating land is much more beneficial in the long run. You make friends and allies, and you don't have to wonder where your next meal is coming from. If you want to get married you have stability, which is necessary for a family.

Humans are naturally land combing creatures.

Stealing would be unwise. Human generally don't attack other humans unless provoked. If I were to steal, then who would stop the the other person from killing me? If I kill him to prevent that as I steal all his valuables, then I get a name for myself. Technically this dangerous game could be won, and tracks covered, but I doubt I could bring myself to end another innocent's life.

As people become more prosperous, they start have more extra stuff. See any city. America is fat for all her extra food and resources it doesn't need. But with more than enough to get by, people begin setting higher goals than just surviving. Even our goals as young adults entering the is much more than just getting by. We often have dreams, dreams that want satisfied. And there's nothing wrong with that. But the wrong dreams can bring about great chaos to others. Some people are offended by others ideas. And that's fine too. Some people wish it were legal today to walk around without any clothes on. Some call it insanity. Others call it "freedom of expression". I call it "inconsiderate".

I guess I would be more "out there" as far as communities go, but not too far from people. We are sociable beings. If there was a God and He showed me, then I would try to point others to Him as well. upholding His standard if there was one. I would value any close friends that I would make and want to be a good husband to my wife.

In the end I would choose a sword as my weapon - if I could afford it. Most people would liky start with spears and then move onto bows. swords require access to mines, but the resource would be invaluable to whoever might find it. As for me, I would be more worried about food than finding iron. So I would probably purchase my blade.

I would want to keep a bow on my all the same though - good for hunting, and you never know when you might wish you had it. I would try to stay away from giving my allegiance to any city states. Why put my life on the line to defend a city that may stand for things I wouldn't care for? If I live out in the country and am a free man, I'm a free man. Wars may not affect me as much unless people try to get people involved. If I knew invading neighbors would wish to take away my rights and were attempting to establish some kind of empire, I may help the nearby smaller city state make a stand, it just depends how much these "invaders" are going to affect me.

I don't see myself starting my own faction, or at least very easily unless I find an abundance of people who believe in the same things. As God as our creator and moral judge, the one who will rule us all.


Netrmbius :

Well, as for the God thing, I guess I would be worried about the truth, and what's right an wrong. I guess there would have to be a God for all this to be possible. It would be reasonably important enough for me to find out the truth on such matters, whether it be from tales of others about a perfect garden, even if I had never seen it, perhaps this older generation hadn't made it up. Either way I see no way out of there being a creator. Hopefully He would favor me, and I could contact Him somehow. If I got really desperate, I might just cry out to Him. If he really is God, then He could hear me, right?

As for living on this planet with others, that might be a chore. May be better off on your own the entire time. Rather than settling on piece of land, just move through the forest and plains. Hunting what comes your way and being a grand adventurer. But such a lifestyle brings no wealth, or land. Certainly not a family. If marriage is a part of human culture commonly, then I suppose I would do it too. Multiple wives, or a wife for only a small amount of time feels loyal to me, I wouldn't do it. Perhaps I would watch others and learn from their mistakes or success. That would be fun.

I wouldn't want to just team up with anyone. Habituating land is much more beneficial in the long run. You make friends and allies, and you don't have to wonder where your next meal is coming from. If you want to get married you have stability, which is necessary for a family.

Humans are naturally land combing creatures.

Stealing would be unwise. Human generally don't attack other humans unless provoked. If I were to steal, then who would stop the the other person from killing me? If I kill him to prevent that as I steal all his valuables, then I get a name for myself. Technically this dangerous game could be won, and tracks covered, but I doubt I could bring myself to end another innocent's life.

As people become more prosperous, they start have more extra stuff. See any city. America is fat for all her extra food and resources it doesn't need. But with more than enough to get by, people begin setting higher goals than just surviving. Even our goals as young adults entering the is much more than just getting by. We often have dreams, dreams that want satisfied. And there's nothing wrong with that. But the wrong dreams can bring about great chaos to others. Some people are offended by others ideas. And that's fine too. Some people wish it were legal today to walk around without any clothes on. Some call it insanity. Others call it "freedom of expression". I call it "inconsiderate".

I guess I would be more "out there" as far as communities go, but not too far from people. We are sociable beings. If there was a God and He showed me, then I would try to point others to Him as well. upholding His standard if there was one. I would value any close friends that I would make and want to be a good husband to my wife.

In the end I would choose a sword as my weapon - if I could afford it. Most people would liky start with spears and then move onto bows. swords require access to mines, but the resource would be invaluable to whoever might find it. As for me, I would be more worried about food than finding iron. So I would probably purchase my blade.

I would want to keep a bow on my all the same though - good for hunting, and you never know when you might wish you had it. I would try to stay away from giving my allegiance to any city states. Why put my life on the line to defend a city that may stand for things I wouldn't care for? If I live out in the country and am a free man, I'm a free man. Wars may not affect me as much unless people try to get people involved. If I knew invading neighbors would wish to take away my rights and were attempting to establish some kind of empire, I may help the nearby smaller city state make a stand, it just depends how much these "invaders" are going to affect me.

I don't see myself starting my own faction, or at least very easily unless I find an abundance of people who believe in the same things. As God as our creator and moral judge, the one who will rule us all.

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Okay lets leave god out of this. Even if we are all created by Him our world with or without is based on our own actions. If we bomb our world into oblivion and there are only few of us left then that is our stupidity, god didn't do that. 

That aside, What would happen if we are in a 'world without?' I can only say that this will bring out the best and worse in most people. In a way, the show The Walking Dead (as well as many other shows and movies and written stories) addresses this problem and they address it so well, it is one of the reasons why I watch it. 

If you live in a world without technologies that we use today or a world in a post apocalyptic situation like in the FALLOUT games (if you haven;t played these games, how dare you, go get it now) there will always be people who band together. We are social animals and very sturdy and clever ones at that. There will be bandits and there will be new farmers. The bandits will raid and the farmers will need to protect. The cycle goes on until enough order is established so that there will be a lower social need for banditry. It will be inevitable that cities will emerge, armies will arise and conflicts will happen. 

If I were to be in such a world, I would love to be an adventurer. I've grown up watching Wuxia shows and as a kid I wondered what it'd be like to travel the countryside being a vigilante of sorts...and then carrying a bigass sword FF7 Cloud style lol. Oh what would I give to roam the countryside with a cutie waging pokemon battles vs the bandits' yugioh monsters and then I finish off all the bad guys with my Gats sword of truth, eat a sensu bean after, call it a day and party with the local villagers I just saved with my group of friends and betrothed. That will be my faction. I am not going to live a sedentary lifestyle forging armors or be the legendary fisherman. I am going to deliver that ring to Mordor and come back with pheonix sabres. Too bad this is all fantasy. Writing this has got me all riled up again haha.
Okay lets leave god out of this. Even if we are all created by Him our world with or without is based on our own actions. If we bomb our world into oblivion and there are only few of us left then that is our stupidity, god didn't do that. 

That aside, What would happen if we are in a 'world without?' I can only say that this will bring out the best and worse in most people. In a way, the show The Walking Dead (as well as many other shows and movies and written stories) addresses this problem and they address it so well, it is one of the reasons why I watch it. 

If you live in a world without technologies that we use today or a world in a post apocalyptic situation like in the FALLOUT games (if you haven;t played these games, how dare you, go get it now) there will always be people who band together. We are social animals and very sturdy and clever ones at that. There will be bandits and there will be new farmers. The bandits will raid and the farmers will need to protect. The cycle goes on until enough order is established so that there will be a lower social need for banditry. It will be inevitable that cities will emerge, armies will arise and conflicts will happen. 

If I were to be in such a world, I would love to be an adventurer. I've grown up watching Wuxia shows and as a kid I wondered what it'd be like to travel the countryside being a vigilante of sorts...and then carrying a bigass sword FF7 Cloud style lol. Oh what would I give to roam the countryside with a cutie waging pokemon battles vs the bandits' yugioh monsters and then I finish off all the bad guys with my Gats sword of truth, eat a sensu bean after, call it a day and party with the local villagers I just saved with my group of friends and betrothed. That will be my faction. I am not going to live a sedentary lifestyle forging armors or be the legendary fisherman. I am going to deliver that ring to Mordor and come back with pheonix sabres. Too bad this is all fantasy. Writing this has got me all riled up again haha.
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I think we would be ok on or own. Cops don't show up until the crime is over any way. Of course there would be evil people but we have that now. Must people would band together and try to do the best for the group. This subjects reminds me of the walking dead. If you watch the show you know that the walkers are the lest of your problems, It's the people you need to watch out for. But good people find each other and work together.
I think we would be ok on or own. Cops don't show up until the crime is over any way. Of course there would be evil people but we have that now. Must people would band together and try to do the best for the group. This subjects reminds me of the walking dead. If you watch the show you know that the walkers are the lest of your problems, It's the people you need to watch out for. But good people find each other and work together.
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rebelyell : Your statement made my night dude. Lmfao. Cops are always late lol. You forgot they also shoot your pet dog and black friends too. Yeah, I think we would get by too without too much authority. It doesn't seem like there are that many problems that can kill us off. The world froze over and homo sapiens still found caves to mate with neanderthals. Researchers are saying with all the famine, wars, and disease, our population is still rising at a substantial rate. I don't see our kind dying in a nuclear holocaust at all. 
rebelyell : Your statement made my night dude. Lmfao. Cops are always late lol. You forgot they also shoot your pet dog and black friends too. Yeah, I think we would get by too without too much authority. It doesn't seem like there are that many problems that can kill us off. The world froze over and homo sapiens still found caves to mate with neanderthals. Researchers are saying with all the famine, wars, and disease, our population is still rising at a substantial rate. I don't see our kind dying in a nuclear holocaust at all. 
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