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Demons. What do we know about them?

 

10-24-14 01:01 AM
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This is not a topic I particularly like to discuss, but it is very necessary from a Christian point of view.  So do you believe they exist?  Can Christians be possessed by a demon?

Once again, I will give some time for a couple of responses then I will give my take on this.
This is not a topic I particularly like to discuss, but it is very necessary from a Christian point of view.  So do you believe they exist?  Can Christians be possessed by a demon?

Once again, I will give some time for a couple of responses then I will give my take on this.
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Demons exist, they are simply fallen Angels. Satan took a large host with him, and these are what have become what we know as demons. I don't think Christians can be possessed, as the Holy Spirit fills us, which means they can't be in us as well. Think of it as a cup, you have oil and water, no matter how hard you try, they won't mix. It is the same with us being possessed.
Demons exist, they are simply fallen Angels. Satan took a large host with him, and these are what have become what we know as demons. I don't think Christians can be possessed, as the Holy Spirit fills us, which means they can't be in us as well. Think of it as a cup, you have oil and water, no matter how hard you try, they won't mix. It is the same with us being possessed.
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I agree with darthyoda, demons DO in fact exist. In Genesis, Lucifer was a powerful angel. When he turned his back on God, he took 1/3rd of the angels with him, turning him into the Devil. Though, 2/3rds of the angels stayed with God. Now, after that incident the Lord took away His angels ability to have free will. The reason behind this is He didn't want anymore angels to fall against Him. So it says in this verse:

"For if God did not spare angels when they sinned, but cast them into hell and committed them to chains of gloomy darkness to be kept until the judgment;"
2 Peter 2:4

Demons can and will possess people. However, they cannot possess those who put their faith in Jesus. All they can do is whisper in our head, into thinking about committing a sin or ruin our temple of God (which is our body). Now, keep in mind that not every demon who possesses someone has their eyes roll back in their heads or foam at the mouth. Some actually do it in a very slow process, so the host doesn't notice. Here's some verses that might help:

"Be sober-minded; be watchful. Your adversary the devil prowls around like a roaring lion, seeking someone to devour."
1 Peter 5:8

"If anyone defiles the temple of God, God will destroy him. For the temple of God is holy, which temple you are."
1 Corinthians 3:17

"You believe that God is one; you do well. Even the demons believe—and shudder!"
James 2:19

"When the unclean spirit has gone out of a person, it passes through waterless places seeking rest, but finds none. Then it says, ‘I will return to my house from which I came.’ And when it comes, it finds the house empty, swept, and put in order. Then it goes and brings with it seven other spirits more evil than itself, and they enter and dwell there, and the last state of that person is worse than the first. So also will it be with this evil generation."
Matthew 12:43-45


It is very terrifying for those who are non-believers in Christ, because they can find themselves possessed by a demon and not have any knowledge of it.  If a demon tries to whisper in your ear, (and this only works if you believe in God with all your heart and saved) say "I rebuke you demons and Satan in Jesus's name!" But you have to say it out loud, because saying it in our mind isn't as strong as saying it out loud. Also, you might want to pray, recite verses, or sing praise songs after you say that. This way they'll stop trying to tell you what to do and go find somebody else they can bother. Keep in mind too that they will come back for you in the future. All you have to do is just repeat the same thing, again. 
I agree with darthyoda, demons DO in fact exist. In Genesis, Lucifer was a powerful angel. When he turned his back on God, he took 1/3rd of the angels with him, turning him into the Devil. Though, 2/3rds of the angels stayed with God. Now, after that incident the Lord took away His angels ability to have free will. The reason behind this is He didn't want anymore angels to fall against Him. So it says in this verse:

"For if God did not spare angels when they sinned, but cast them into hell and committed them to chains of gloomy darkness to be kept until the judgment;"
2 Peter 2:4

Demons can and will possess people. However, they cannot possess those who put their faith in Jesus. All they can do is whisper in our head, into thinking about committing a sin or ruin our temple of God (which is our body). Now, keep in mind that not every demon who possesses someone has their eyes roll back in their heads or foam at the mouth. Some actually do it in a very slow process, so the host doesn't notice. Here's some verses that might help:

"Be sober-minded; be watchful. Your adversary the devil prowls around like a roaring lion, seeking someone to devour."
1 Peter 5:8

"If anyone defiles the temple of God, God will destroy him. For the temple of God is holy, which temple you are."
1 Corinthians 3:17

"You believe that God is one; you do well. Even the demons believe—and shudder!"
James 2:19

"When the unclean spirit has gone out of a person, it passes through waterless places seeking rest, but finds none. Then it says, ‘I will return to my house from which I came.’ And when it comes, it finds the house empty, swept, and put in order. Then it goes and brings with it seven other spirits more evil than itself, and they enter and dwell there, and the last state of that person is worse than the first. So also will it be with this evil generation."
Matthew 12:43-45


It is very terrifying for those who are non-believers in Christ, because they can find themselves possessed by a demon and not have any knowledge of it.  If a demon tries to whisper in your ear, (and this only works if you believe in God with all your heart and saved) say "I rebuke you demons and Satan in Jesus's name!" But you have to say it out loud, because saying it in our mind isn't as strong as saying it out loud. Also, you might want to pray, recite verses, or sing praise songs after you say that. This way they'll stop trying to tell you what to do and go find somebody else they can bother. Keep in mind too that they will come back for you in the future. All you have to do is just repeat the same thing, again. 
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Kuti_Kat : This is a genuine question, not an attempt to speak against what you said. This is mainly a question I have due to the fact that I have not studied this aspect much. If we become angels after death, and God took away angel's free will, does that mean that our free will is taken from us after we die?

The Devil was around before the first people, and he took many angels with him away from God before he became the devil. So that means there were angels before people. But if people become angels when they die, how does that work? Is there somewhere that discusses God's angels that were not at one point people other than the story of how the Devil came to be?

And the last part about how you must speak out loud because it is more powerful than saying something in your head. Does that mean that the prayers of people who are preying silently are less powerful than the prayers of those who are praying out loud?

Again, genuine questions that I am curious about.
Kuti_Kat : This is a genuine question, not an attempt to speak against what you said. This is mainly a question I have due to the fact that I have not studied this aspect much. If we become angels after death, and God took away angel's free will, does that mean that our free will is taken from us after we die?

The Devil was around before the first people, and he took many angels with him away from God before he became the devil. So that means there were angels before people. But if people become angels when they die, how does that work? Is there somewhere that discusses God's angels that were not at one point people other than the story of how the Devil came to be?

And the last part about how you must speak out loud because it is more powerful than saying something in your head. Does that mean that the prayers of people who are preying silently are less powerful than the prayers of those who are praying out loud?

Again, genuine questions that I am curious about.
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rcarter: Sorry for the late reply! I'm jumping from researching about Wacom Tablets to Bible verses, hahah! Anyways, I've searched everywhere in the Bible for people who die they'll become angels, but no results came up. What I did find is that angels and humans are two different set of species, if I were to call it. Also, it's seen in these verses:

"Of this salvation the prophets have inquired and searched carefully, who prophesied of the grace that would come to you, searching what, or what manner of time, the Spirit of Christ who was in them was indicating when He testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ and the glories that would follow. To them it was revealed that, not to themselves, but to usfn they were ministering the things which now have been reported to you through those who have preached the gospel to you by the Holy Spirit sent from heaven—things which angels desire to look into."
1 Peter 1:10-12

"I say to you that likewise there will be more joy in heaven over one sinner who repents than over ninety-nine just persons who need no repentance. Likewise, I say to you, there is joy in the presence of the angels of God over one sinner who repents."
Luke 15:7 & 10

"Are not all angels ministering spirits sent to serve those who will inherit salvation?"
Hebrews 1:14


I think people misunderstand that angels and humans are the same things by these verses:

"Therefore we also, since we are surrounded by so great a cloud of witnesses, let us lay aside every weight, and the sin which so easily ensnares us, and let us run with endurance the race that is set before us,"
Hebrews 12:1

"Are they not all ministering spirits sent to serve those who will inherit salvation?"
Hebrews 1:14
(Different version of this verse)

And yes, there are stories in the Bible about angels not being people. For example, Jacob's Ladder. Jacob had a dream about a stairway connecting Earth and Heaven. Angels were descending and ascending on those steps, and it says so in this verse:

"When he reached a certain place, he stopped for the night because the sun had set. Taking one of the stones there, he put it under his head and lay down to sleep. He had a dream in which he saw a stairway resting on the earth, with its top reaching to heaven, and the angels of God were ascending and descending on it."
Genesis 28:11-12

Notice how it said "angels of God." why not angels and children of God? Reason is angels are servants of God. We, humans, are children of God. Yes, we serve him and yes when we die we go to heaven. BUT when we become a believer in Jesus Christ, what do we become? A new creature in Christ, but what does it mean? For us to understand this, we need to bring out the Greek and Hebrew dictionary. This is because the Bible was written in Greek first and when it gets translated into English or other languages, it looses some of it's content, and information. After translating the word "creature" in Greek Hebrew Dictionary, here are the synonyms to the Greek translation:

- being
- organism
- individual
- mortal
- person
- somebody
- someone
- soul

(here's the verse by the way)
"Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; old things have passed away; behold, all things have become new."
2 Corinthians 5:17

So, it doesn't mean angel. It means a person, someone who has a soul. Humans have souls, not angels because angels are God's messengers/servants. Angels serve God by serving us in a way where they can minister and guide us.


Praying in your mind doesn't make you weak, nor does it make you a better Christian or Catholic. But it is best to pray out loud so you won't get distracted. Just like bowing your head and closing your eyes. It is best to do those actions than to keep your head up and your eyes opened. Unless you have a very long attention span and are very good at focusing, then you can do those things. Same thing goes for rebuking Satan and his demons. Now, you can whisper it out loud, and don't have to yell "I REBUKE YOU SATAN AND HIS DEMONS IN JESUS'S NAME!!!" because people are gonna look at you funny if you really do that. There was this one time when my family was praying and I got distracted by a fly that was buzzing around in the room. So, I need to close my eyes and bow my head to keep myself focused on praying rather than inspecting what's going on in the room. Part of this is my own opinion, so you can pray or rebuke in any way you'd like. I can't tell you to do something, only God can.

I hope this answered your questions, if not all then some.  If you have anymore Qs for me, I'll be willing to answer them! 
rcarter: Sorry for the late reply! I'm jumping from researching about Wacom Tablets to Bible verses, hahah! Anyways, I've searched everywhere in the Bible for people who die they'll become angels, but no results came up. What I did find is that angels and humans are two different set of species, if I were to call it. Also, it's seen in these verses:

"Of this salvation the prophets have inquired and searched carefully, who prophesied of the grace that would come to you, searching what, or what manner of time, the Spirit of Christ who was in them was indicating when He testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ and the glories that would follow. To them it was revealed that, not to themselves, but to usfn they were ministering the things which now have been reported to you through those who have preached the gospel to you by the Holy Spirit sent from heaven—things which angels desire to look into."
1 Peter 1:10-12

"I say to you that likewise there will be more joy in heaven over one sinner who repents than over ninety-nine just persons who need no repentance. Likewise, I say to you, there is joy in the presence of the angels of God over one sinner who repents."
Luke 15:7 & 10

"Are not all angels ministering spirits sent to serve those who will inherit salvation?"
Hebrews 1:14


I think people misunderstand that angels and humans are the same things by these verses:

"Therefore we also, since we are surrounded by so great a cloud of witnesses, let us lay aside every weight, and the sin which so easily ensnares us, and let us run with endurance the race that is set before us,"
Hebrews 12:1

"Are they not all ministering spirits sent to serve those who will inherit salvation?"
Hebrews 1:14
(Different version of this verse)

And yes, there are stories in the Bible about angels not being people. For example, Jacob's Ladder. Jacob had a dream about a stairway connecting Earth and Heaven. Angels were descending and ascending on those steps, and it says so in this verse:

"When he reached a certain place, he stopped for the night because the sun had set. Taking one of the stones there, he put it under his head and lay down to sleep. He had a dream in which he saw a stairway resting on the earth, with its top reaching to heaven, and the angels of God were ascending and descending on it."
Genesis 28:11-12

Notice how it said "angels of God." why not angels and children of God? Reason is angels are servants of God. We, humans, are children of God. Yes, we serve him and yes when we die we go to heaven. BUT when we become a believer in Jesus Christ, what do we become? A new creature in Christ, but what does it mean? For us to understand this, we need to bring out the Greek and Hebrew dictionary. This is because the Bible was written in Greek first and when it gets translated into English or other languages, it looses some of it's content, and information. After translating the word "creature" in Greek Hebrew Dictionary, here are the synonyms to the Greek translation:

- being
- organism
- individual
- mortal
- person
- somebody
- someone
- soul

(here's the verse by the way)
"Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; old things have passed away; behold, all things have become new."
2 Corinthians 5:17

So, it doesn't mean angel. It means a person, someone who has a soul. Humans have souls, not angels because angels are God's messengers/servants. Angels serve God by serving us in a way where they can minister and guide us.


Praying in your mind doesn't make you weak, nor does it make you a better Christian or Catholic. But it is best to pray out loud so you won't get distracted. Just like bowing your head and closing your eyes. It is best to do those actions than to keep your head up and your eyes opened. Unless you have a very long attention span and are very good at focusing, then you can do those things. Same thing goes for rebuking Satan and his demons. Now, you can whisper it out loud, and don't have to yell "I REBUKE YOU SATAN AND HIS DEMONS IN JESUS'S NAME!!!" because people are gonna look at you funny if you really do that. There was this one time when my family was praying and I got distracted by a fly that was buzzing around in the room. So, I need to close my eyes and bow my head to keep myself focused on praying rather than inspecting what's going on in the room. Part of this is my own opinion, so you can pray or rebuke in any way you'd like. I can't tell you to do something, only God can.

I hope this answered your questions, if not all then some.  If you have anymore Qs for me, I'll be willing to answer them! 
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If Demons didn't exist, wouldn't that prove that angels don't exist? Think about it: Satan was exiled with other angels who followed him, but they could no longer be called angels, so what would you call them? Another good question would be where did the term demon come from? Are Evil spirits and demons one in the same? If not, what is the difference? I think we can agree that Satan is not God, thus he needs lackeys to send out, wouldn't he? Then again, God sends angels as messengers, so how exactly do demon work? By bringing chaos into a home or by agitating the chaos already there? I just keep coming up with more questions. In any case, have you tried to talk to a demonologist or an exorcist? They may be able to help you understand with support from the Bible (of course, I could be wrong as I haven't done that myself and have yet to need to).
If Demons didn't exist, wouldn't that prove that angels don't exist? Think about it: Satan was exiled with other angels who followed him, but they could no longer be called angels, so what would you call them? Another good question would be where did the term demon come from? Are Evil spirits and demons one in the same? If not, what is the difference? I think we can agree that Satan is not God, thus he needs lackeys to send out, wouldn't he? Then again, God sends angels as messengers, so how exactly do demon work? By bringing chaos into a home or by agitating the chaos already there? I just keep coming up with more questions. In any case, have you tried to talk to a demonologist or an exorcist? They may be able to help you understand with support from the Bible (of course, I could be wrong as I haven't done that myself and have yet to need to).
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SoL@R : I absolutely believe that they exist. They are the fallen angels of heaven and are enemies of GOD and Christians. I happen to agree with Darthyoda, as Christians, we cannot be possesed by a demon, as we are "possessed by the HOLY SPIRIT" So we are actually filled. However, there is one loophole, where I think that a backslidden Christian's possession is possible. The BIBLE makes reference to grieving the HOLY SPIRIT. I believe that it is possible to sort of "choke out" the HOLY SPIRIT by constantly grieving HIM with rebellion. I do think that this would make room for the evil one. Some would not say that this is true, and believe in a "Once saved, Always saved. And While this is true to an extent, I do believe that we ourselves have the power to choose not to be saved, by giving up on our beliefs and rebelling against GOD. When we believe, we are saved. I am not talking about the momentary doubts that we have all and will continue to experience, but rather a mindset that just decides to refuse GOD and treats JESUS sacrifice as nothing, in a sense crucifying HIM all over again instead of being crucified with HIM if you know what I mean. A demon is a spirit; they are an enemy. More powerful than humans, but not more than the power of GOD that lives in us. We should live in such a way so as not to extingush the flame, so to speak. Now, I am not saying that we cannot make mistakes, what I am saying is that we should not live with the mindset that "Oh, I'm saved, JESUS forgives me, so I can just do whatever I want, because HE understands that no one is perfect" That is what I mean. As long as we live, we should remember Whose we are, and why we live.
SoL@R : I absolutely believe that they exist. They are the fallen angels of heaven and are enemies of GOD and Christians. I happen to agree with Darthyoda, as Christians, we cannot be possesed by a demon, as we are "possessed by the HOLY SPIRIT" So we are actually filled. However, there is one loophole, where I think that a backslidden Christian's possession is possible. The BIBLE makes reference to grieving the HOLY SPIRIT. I believe that it is possible to sort of "choke out" the HOLY SPIRIT by constantly grieving HIM with rebellion. I do think that this would make room for the evil one. Some would not say that this is true, and believe in a "Once saved, Always saved. And While this is true to an extent, I do believe that we ourselves have the power to choose not to be saved, by giving up on our beliefs and rebelling against GOD. When we believe, we are saved. I am not talking about the momentary doubts that we have all and will continue to experience, but rather a mindset that just decides to refuse GOD and treats JESUS sacrifice as nothing, in a sense crucifying HIM all over again instead of being crucified with HIM if you know what I mean. A demon is a spirit; they are an enemy. More powerful than humans, but not more than the power of GOD that lives in us. We should live in such a way so as not to extingush the flame, so to speak. Now, I am not saying that we cannot make mistakes, what I am saying is that we should not live with the mindset that "Oh, I'm saved, JESUS forgives me, so I can just do whatever I want, because HE understands that no one is perfect" That is what I mean. As long as we live, we should remember Whose we are, and why we live.
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So there's been comments on demons that can't possess Christians and that' s true.  If you have truly surrendered your life to God, you have been filled with His Spirit and thus possession is impossible.  There are those who will still tell you that it is possible, but that's a lie.  You can ask me more about this if you want, but I'm not going into that right now.  

The purpose of this post is to expand on the thread question, "What do we know about demons?" and to make believers aware (again) that they are engaged, either knowingly or unknowingly, in direct conflict with Satan and his demons and the way they subtly manipulate a situation to stumble the believer in his/her walk with God. This is the point of Paul’s warning in Ephesians 6:10–18.  

The Western culture can't seem to get enough of the spirit world.  The latest poll indicates that 42% of Americans believe in demon possession, 37% believe in haunted houses and 32% believe in ghosts.  It is not just the Americans.  40% of the British believe in haunted houses too.  However there are always those that are skeptical, that discount all spirit activity and they go as far as denying the existence of Satan and demons.  Atheists stated this view by planting a sign next to a manger scene one Christmas at the capitol building in Olympia, Washington that read:  "There are no gods, no devils, no angels, no heaven or hell. There is only our natural world.” What is the Christian position?"  Outright denial of Satan and demons is clearly not the answer.  That view rejects the revelation of the Bible and the phenomena witnessed clearly and broadly in many societies.  The first and second world countries, not just third-world countries, experience demonic powers, whether knowingly or unknowingly.  Demons are real and need to be taken seriously.  Unless we have a biblical view of God, mankind and the spirit world, we will not have the perspective to understand the evil that plagues our world.  

So what is the Biblical perspective on Satan's role?  How could a good and powerful God allow evil spirits to trouble us since the very beginning?  To answer this we need to recall several truths about the nature of God, the limitations on fallen angels (demons) and God's final judgment.  The Bible presents the inception and continuation of sin and evil, but it also presents God as One who is holy, righteous and perfect in all His way and who hates evil (Deuteronomy 32:3–4).  He is sovereign, omnipotent and in control.  He has no potential successful rival (Isaiah 41:4, Isaiah 43:13 and Revelation 4:11)  Evil did not rise up apart from His control, otherwise He would not be God.  It seems best to say that God, for good reasons, allowed evil to come into being.  Believers in Christ confess that God is the Author of a (perfect) plan that included allowing His creatures to choose to sin (Isaiah 45:7; Acts 14:16).  His ultimate good purpose must be best served by such a plan.  Perhaps He allowed angels to sin so that He might give a concrete example of the wretchedness and degradation of sin.  Perhaps He used the test to gain a group of angels to serve Him from choice and love while others did not and fell.  By this means He could show in specific form His hatred and judgment of sin as He did in Pharaoh's case in Romans 9:17-18:  For scripture says to Pharaoh: “I raised you up for this very purpose, that I might display my power in you and that my name might be proclaimed in all the earth.” Therefore God has mercy on whom he wants to have mercy, and he hardens whom he wants to harden.  The thing is we would never know the magnitude of God's grace in preserving most of the angels and in the costly redemption of unworthy, sinful man.  The price of our redemption is the death of the eternal Son of God, who became our Redeemer.

Most of you are probably familiar with the story of Lucifer who was the lead angel, but due to pride he deliberately chose to sin against his Creator.  God cast Him, together with the angels who chose to join him, out of heaven and he became Satan.  The responsibility fell on Satan who made the choice, not on God in any way.  The angels who joined Satan planned their rebellion despite all they knew of the greatness and goodness of God.  scripture however reveals that God is sovereign over these evil spirits and has always limited the expression of their sin and its devastating effects.  He allows it for only a finite time between Satan's fall and His coming judgement.  God also controls the magnitude of Satan's evil even with that time frame.  Psalm 11:4-7 - The Lord is in his holy temple; the Lord is on his heavenly throne.  He observes everyone on earth; His eyes examine them. The Lord examines the righteous, but the wicked, those who love violence, He hates with a passion. On the wicked he will rain fiery coals and burning sulfur; a scorching wind will be their lot.  For the Lord is righteous, He loves justice; the upright will see His face. (Also see Psalm 96:1-13 and Romans 2:1-16).

God in His righteousness has condemned sin in the fullest sense.  He has judged it throughout human history.  He has also judged it in the sacrifice of His eternal Son -  a sacrificial punishment more than all creatures combined could ever suffer.  Ultimately God will forever punish Satan, his demonic hordes and all other evildoers in the lake of fire and He WILL banish sin forever from the universe when He makes all things new in the new heavens and earth.  See Revelation 20:10-15 and Revelation 21:4-5.  So scripture guarantees that God is in full control of His creation and that He did not cause evil, but that He will judge all evil.

Looking at demons.  They promote false doctrine and divisions.  They produce false teachers and followers.  Satan and demons hate the Messiah - the Creator who became the Savior of mankind and anyone who follows Him.  Demons thus incite persection of the Church of Jesus Christ.  Satan and his demon legion have not faded from the scene.  Their presence is still experienced worldwide and the Bible warns that their activity will reach new heights in the future.  The climax of satanic activity will be embodied in the Antichrist and his agenda (2 Thessalonians 2:9).  However, Satan and his followers will ultimately be defeated and God will throw Satan and his angels into the lake of fire (Revelation 20:7-10; Matthew 25:41).  There will be no more evil in this world that day and it will be forever banished (Revelation 21-22).

Demons are real spiritual and personal beings, not just forces or phenomena in they physical and psychological realm.  Various Bible passages reveal that they have intellect, emotions and will.  They think, hate and choose plans of action against God, Christ and mankind.  They especially hate believers in Christ as I have already mentioned.  They are spirit beings created by God and responsible to God (Colossians 1:16).  Being a created being, they are thus limited in space, time and powers.  They have become morally perverted and are called "unclean" or "evil spirits" (Matthew 10:1; Luke 7:21).  So Christians, know your enemy.  This is what demons can do and are responsible for:

-They promote immoral and sensuous lifestyles (2 Peter 2:1-18)
-They cause false teachers of depraved minds to oppose the truth and appeal to carnal and selfish impulses (2 Timothy 3:6)
-They sow false followers of Christ in the world (Matthew 13:37-42)
-They blind the minds of unbelievers to keep them from seeing God's salvation through faith in His Son (2 Corinthians 4:3-4)
-They promote primitive religions, magic, superstition and worship of evil spirits.  Witchcraft and astrology are among the earliest false religions that they have inspired in the minds of men.  Satanism stands out among their more recent promotions.
-They are dynamic behind idolatry and their devotees, whether worshipers of the gods Marduk, Asher, Zeus, Jupiter, Apollo, Ra, Diana, Aphrodite or a host of lesser man made deities.  

Demons especially target true believers who are a threat to them.  At least sixteen passages in the New Testament address demonic opposition to Christians.  Perhaps their greatest deceptive device is to counterfeit stuff (2 Corinthians 11:13-15).  Satan was trying to be like God and so he imitates some of God's powers and distorts God's message.  Christians must be aware and beware of any changes to the gospel of God's saving grace in Christ.  Satan promotes legalism (Galatians 5:1-4; 13 - 14) so Christians must guard their lives by following God's truth and depending upon the Holy Spirit in order to prevent our sinful desires to overrule God's will.

Demons also abhor the grace of God and attack the character of God by causing people to think of Him as dominating, restricting and vengeful.  They attack a Christian's confidence and commitment to Christ and in their place they insert accusing thoughts.  They tempt people to lie, to commit sexual sins, to be preoccuped with this world's values, to rely on human wisdom and to be proud in spiritual matters.  They bring discouragement and division.  

If we Christians submit to God, we can depend upon His strengthening for this conflict. We must avail ourselves to God’s provision of spiritual armor.  In facing Satan and demons, we believers can rest in the reality of our Father’s gracious and powerful control. We know He has placed limits on our enemies. He did so in the case of Job, one of God’s exemplary followers. In the first attack, the Creator allowed Satan only to touch Job’s possessions, not Job himself (Job 1:12). In the second attack, God allowed Satan to touch only Job’s body, not take his life (Job 2:6). After all of his trials, Job recognized the goodness and power of God (Job 42:1–6). So God limits the demonic attacks in our world today. Satan is on a leash, and we are under God’s protection (Psalm121:5–8). That does not mean we will never face difficulties or trials, for those are part of this fallen world (and sometimes result from the direct attacks of spiritual beings, Ephesians 6:12; 2 Corinthians 12:7–10). But it does mean we can trust God with whatever comes at us in the battle. We belong inseparably to the Lord (Romans 8:31–39). He guards us and keeps us as we trust in Him (1 Peter 5:6–7). We are to submit to God and resist the devil; then he will flee from us (James 4:7).

To face successfully the evil in this world, no matter what form it takes, we must recognize the reality and schemes of Satan and his fellow fallen angels, take our stand in the strength and authority of Christ, submit our lives to God, put on the full armor of God, and boldly stand on the truths of God in the face of challenges and temptations by our leashed spiritual enemies.
So there's been comments on demons that can't possess Christians and that' s true.  If you have truly surrendered your life to God, you have been filled with His Spirit and thus possession is impossible.  There are those who will still tell you that it is possible, but that's a lie.  You can ask me more about this if you want, but I'm not going into that right now.  

The purpose of this post is to expand on the thread question, "What do we know about demons?" and to make believers aware (again) that they are engaged, either knowingly or unknowingly, in direct conflict with Satan and his demons and the way they subtly manipulate a situation to stumble the believer in his/her walk with God. This is the point of Paul’s warning in Ephesians 6:10–18.  

The Western culture can't seem to get enough of the spirit world.  The latest poll indicates that 42% of Americans believe in demon possession, 37% believe in haunted houses and 32% believe in ghosts.  It is not just the Americans.  40% of the British believe in haunted houses too.  However there are always those that are skeptical, that discount all spirit activity and they go as far as denying the existence of Satan and demons.  Atheists stated this view by planting a sign next to a manger scene one Christmas at the capitol building in Olympia, Washington that read:  "There are no gods, no devils, no angels, no heaven or hell. There is only our natural world.” What is the Christian position?"  Outright denial of Satan and demons is clearly not the answer.  That view rejects the revelation of the Bible and the phenomena witnessed clearly and broadly in many societies.  The first and second world countries, not just third-world countries, experience demonic powers, whether knowingly or unknowingly.  Demons are real and need to be taken seriously.  Unless we have a biblical view of God, mankind and the spirit world, we will not have the perspective to understand the evil that plagues our world.  

So what is the Biblical perspective on Satan's role?  How could a good and powerful God allow evil spirits to trouble us since the very beginning?  To answer this we need to recall several truths about the nature of God, the limitations on fallen angels (demons) and God's final judgment.  The Bible presents the inception and continuation of sin and evil, but it also presents God as One who is holy, righteous and perfect in all His way and who hates evil (Deuteronomy 32:3–4).  He is sovereign, omnipotent and in control.  He has no potential successful rival (Isaiah 41:4, Isaiah 43:13 and Revelation 4:11)  Evil did not rise up apart from His control, otherwise He would not be God.  It seems best to say that God, for good reasons, allowed evil to come into being.  Believers in Christ confess that God is the Author of a (perfect) plan that included allowing His creatures to choose to sin (Isaiah 45:7; Acts 14:16).  His ultimate good purpose must be best served by such a plan.  Perhaps He allowed angels to sin so that He might give a concrete example of the wretchedness and degradation of sin.  Perhaps He used the test to gain a group of angels to serve Him from choice and love while others did not and fell.  By this means He could show in specific form His hatred and judgment of sin as He did in Pharaoh's case in Romans 9:17-18:  For scripture says to Pharaoh: “I raised you up for this very purpose, that I might display my power in you and that my name might be proclaimed in all the earth.” Therefore God has mercy on whom he wants to have mercy, and he hardens whom he wants to harden.  The thing is we would never know the magnitude of God's grace in preserving most of the angels and in the costly redemption of unworthy, sinful man.  The price of our redemption is the death of the eternal Son of God, who became our Redeemer.

Most of you are probably familiar with the story of Lucifer who was the lead angel, but due to pride he deliberately chose to sin against his Creator.  God cast Him, together with the angels who chose to join him, out of heaven and he became Satan.  The responsibility fell on Satan who made the choice, not on God in any way.  The angels who joined Satan planned their rebellion despite all they knew of the greatness and goodness of God.  scripture however reveals that God is sovereign over these evil spirits and has always limited the expression of their sin and its devastating effects.  He allows it for only a finite time between Satan's fall and His coming judgement.  God also controls the magnitude of Satan's evil even with that time frame.  Psalm 11:4-7 - The Lord is in his holy temple; the Lord is on his heavenly throne.  He observes everyone on earth; His eyes examine them. The Lord examines the righteous, but the wicked, those who love violence, He hates with a passion. On the wicked he will rain fiery coals and burning sulfur; a scorching wind will be their lot.  For the Lord is righteous, He loves justice; the upright will see His face. (Also see Psalm 96:1-13 and Romans 2:1-16).

God in His righteousness has condemned sin in the fullest sense.  He has judged it throughout human history.  He has also judged it in the sacrifice of His eternal Son -  a sacrificial punishment more than all creatures combined could ever suffer.  Ultimately God will forever punish Satan, his demonic hordes and all other evildoers in the lake of fire and He WILL banish sin forever from the universe when He makes all things new in the new heavens and earth.  See Revelation 20:10-15 and Revelation 21:4-5.  So scripture guarantees that God is in full control of His creation and that He did not cause evil, but that He will judge all evil.

Looking at demons.  They promote false doctrine and divisions.  They produce false teachers and followers.  Satan and demons hate the Messiah - the Creator who became the Savior of mankind and anyone who follows Him.  Demons thus incite persection of the Church of Jesus Christ.  Satan and his demon legion have not faded from the scene.  Their presence is still experienced worldwide and the Bible warns that their activity will reach new heights in the future.  The climax of satanic activity will be embodied in the Antichrist and his agenda (2 Thessalonians 2:9).  However, Satan and his followers will ultimately be defeated and God will throw Satan and his angels into the lake of fire (Revelation 20:7-10; Matthew 25:41).  There will be no more evil in this world that day and it will be forever banished (Revelation 21-22).

Demons are real spiritual and personal beings, not just forces or phenomena in they physical and psychological realm.  Various Bible passages reveal that they have intellect, emotions and will.  They think, hate and choose plans of action against God, Christ and mankind.  They especially hate believers in Christ as I have already mentioned.  They are spirit beings created by God and responsible to God (Colossians 1:16).  Being a created being, they are thus limited in space, time and powers.  They have become morally perverted and are called "unclean" or "evil spirits" (Matthew 10:1; Luke 7:21).  So Christians, know your enemy.  This is what demons can do and are responsible for:

-They promote immoral and sensuous lifestyles (2 Peter 2:1-18)
-They cause false teachers of depraved minds to oppose the truth and appeal to carnal and selfish impulses (2 Timothy 3:6)
-They sow false followers of Christ in the world (Matthew 13:37-42)
-They blind the minds of unbelievers to keep them from seeing God's salvation through faith in His Son (2 Corinthians 4:3-4)
-They promote primitive religions, magic, superstition and worship of evil spirits.  Witchcraft and astrology are among the earliest false religions that they have inspired in the minds of men.  Satanism stands out among their more recent promotions.
-They are dynamic behind idolatry and their devotees, whether worshipers of the gods Marduk, Asher, Zeus, Jupiter, Apollo, Ra, Diana, Aphrodite or a host of lesser man made deities.  

Demons especially target true believers who are a threat to them.  At least sixteen passages in the New Testament address demonic opposition to Christians.  Perhaps their greatest deceptive device is to counterfeit stuff (2 Corinthians 11:13-15).  Satan was trying to be like God and so he imitates some of God's powers and distorts God's message.  Christians must be aware and beware of any changes to the gospel of God's saving grace in Christ.  Satan promotes legalism (Galatians 5:1-4; 13 - 14) so Christians must guard their lives by following God's truth and depending upon the Holy Spirit in order to prevent our sinful desires to overrule God's will.

Demons also abhor the grace of God and attack the character of God by causing people to think of Him as dominating, restricting and vengeful.  They attack a Christian's confidence and commitment to Christ and in their place they insert accusing thoughts.  They tempt people to lie, to commit sexual sins, to be preoccuped with this world's values, to rely on human wisdom and to be proud in spiritual matters.  They bring discouragement and division.  

If we Christians submit to God, we can depend upon His strengthening for this conflict. We must avail ourselves to God’s provision of spiritual armor.  In facing Satan and demons, we believers can rest in the reality of our Father’s gracious and powerful control. We know He has placed limits on our enemies. He did so in the case of Job, one of God’s exemplary followers. In the first attack, the Creator allowed Satan only to touch Job’s possessions, not Job himself (Job 1:12). In the second attack, God allowed Satan to touch only Job’s body, not take his life (Job 2:6). After all of his trials, Job recognized the goodness and power of God (Job 42:1–6). So God limits the demonic attacks in our world today. Satan is on a leash, and we are under God’s protection (Psalm121:5–8). That does not mean we will never face difficulties or trials, for those are part of this fallen world (and sometimes result from the direct attacks of spiritual beings, Ephesians 6:12; 2 Corinthians 12:7–10). But it does mean we can trust God with whatever comes at us in the battle. We belong inseparably to the Lord (Romans 8:31–39). He guards us and keeps us as we trust in Him (1 Peter 5:6–7). We are to submit to God and resist the devil; then he will flee from us (James 4:7).

To face successfully the evil in this world, no matter what form it takes, we must recognize the reality and schemes of Satan and his fellow fallen angels, take our stand in the strength and authority of Christ, submit our lives to God, put on the full armor of God, and boldly stand on the truths of God in the face of challenges and temptations by our leashed spiritual enemies.
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SoL@R : I do believe in Demons. They possess people, and let them to do the wrong things instead of the right things. Remember, all the demons were once Angels, and we have to fight against them. If Demons didn't exist, than all the troubles in this world would be gone... well that's what I know about Demons, in my religion.
SoL@R : I do believe in Demons. They possess people, and let them to do the wrong things instead of the right things. Remember, all the demons were once Angels, and we have to fight against them. If Demons didn't exist, than all the troubles in this world would be gone... well that's what I know about Demons, in my religion.
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And they don't have bodies. So they don't experience stimuli. They don't have emotions like we do. They are outside of time. They don't have magical powers. They're not yet in hell. They do have free will. They don't have a Savior. And they despise human beings.
I think that's about it.
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And they don't have bodies. So they don't experience stimuli. They don't have emotions like we do. They are outside of time. They don't have magical powers. They're not yet in hell. They do have free will. They don't have a Savior. And they despise human beings.
I think that's about it.
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