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Campaign to save dog in Arizona mauling

 

03-16-14 10:40 PM
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so i was reading this on yahoo.com http://news.yahoo.com/campaign-save-dog-arizona-mauling-204712494.html and i was confused on who should have been responsible? was it the person watching Kevin Vicente be resposible or the mother i wasn't sure.
so i was reading this on yahoo.com http://news.yahoo.com/campaign-save-dog-arizona-mauling-204712494.html and i was confused on who should have been responsible? was it the person watching Kevin Vicente be resposible or the mother i wasn't sure.

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03-20-14 08:01 PM
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I read the article.  The dog was within an area the kids could walk around in.  I think the dog shouldn't be euthanized but he should be put somewhere where there aren't children.  Give him to a new home, sue the woman who owned the place the kid got mauled, remove any chance for her to stay in business, and continue on your way.

Don't kill the dog.  Punish the owner who did a terrible job providing an unsafe environment for kids.
I read the article.  The dog was within an area the kids could walk around in.  I think the dog shouldn't be euthanized but he should be put somewhere where there aren't children.  Give him to a new home, sue the woman who owned the place the kid got mauled, remove any chance for her to stay in business, and continue on your way.

Don't kill the dog.  Punish the owner who did a terrible job providing an unsafe environment for kids.

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03-23-14 02:39 PM
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Before I say anything, I want to stress that I do find it sad when a dog gets killed for an attack. Especially when the animal is not at fault. For example, when a dog is killed because it followed an order from the owner to attack. That is not the fault of the dog.

However, there are times when the law is quite clear on the matter. Based completely on the details the article posted here has given, the law is clear. It was not a matter of the dog defending himself or the owner. It was not a matter where the dog should have felt threatened. It was not a matter of someone taunting the dog, coaxing it into an attack. From the details of the article, the kid simply picked up a bone within reach of the dog's chain. Then the kid gets a broken eye socket, broken cheek bone, and broken maxilla. It seems that this was a completely unprovoked attacked, and a horrible one at that.

Now, who is to blame? I absolutely believe that the owner is to blame, as behavior like that in dogs is more often than not, a reflection on the quality of care from the owner. However, when a dog does something like this unprovoked when they are fully grown, that is going to be something that they are always more than capable of doing again. It is in their mind. Pure and simple.

Is it sad that it is likely going to be put down? Absolutely. It is a shame. But it would also be just asking for trouble to not. I hate it, but I understand it.

I think that what warmaker said is kind of unrealistic. Putting the dog somewhere where there aren't children. If the dog is in the community at all, children are a likely. So should the dog just stay out of any society, i.e the pound/shelter for the rest of his life? What quality of life is that. The only thing I can possibly think of is that program where pit bulls are issued to inmates as a form or rehabilitation. But that program doesn't exist in many places.

Again, I think the owner is to blame. But the law is clear on something like this. It seems to have been an unprovoked attack, so I understand the reasoning. Still sad, though.





Before I say anything, I want to stress that I do find it sad when a dog gets killed for an attack. Especially when the animal is not at fault. For example, when a dog is killed because it followed an order from the owner to attack. That is not the fault of the dog.

However, there are times when the law is quite clear on the matter. Based completely on the details the article posted here has given, the law is clear. It was not a matter of the dog defending himself or the owner. It was not a matter where the dog should have felt threatened. It was not a matter of someone taunting the dog, coaxing it into an attack. From the details of the article, the kid simply picked up a bone within reach of the dog's chain. Then the kid gets a broken eye socket, broken cheek bone, and broken maxilla. It seems that this was a completely unprovoked attacked, and a horrible one at that.

Now, who is to blame? I absolutely believe that the owner is to blame, as behavior like that in dogs is more often than not, a reflection on the quality of care from the owner. However, when a dog does something like this unprovoked when they are fully grown, that is going to be something that they are always more than capable of doing again. It is in their mind. Pure and simple.

Is it sad that it is likely going to be put down? Absolutely. It is a shame. But it would also be just asking for trouble to not. I hate it, but I understand it.

I think that what warmaker said is kind of unrealistic. Putting the dog somewhere where there aren't children. If the dog is in the community at all, children are a likely. So should the dog just stay out of any society, i.e the pound/shelter for the rest of his life? What quality of life is that. The only thing I can possibly think of is that program where pit bulls are issued to inmates as a form or rehabilitation. But that program doesn't exist in many places.

Again, I think the owner is to blame. But the law is clear on something like this. It seems to have been an unprovoked attack, so I understand the reasoning. Still sad, though.

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When it comes to dogs attacking people I think the biggest problem is with the owners.

If you keep a dog on a chain and a pit bull at that, then I think you are already doing something fundamentally wrong.
When it comes to dogs attacking people I think the biggest problem is with the owners.

If you keep a dog on a chain and a pit bull at that, then I think you are already doing something fundamentally wrong.

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