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01-17-14 04:34 AM
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how do you feel about it?
how do you feel about it?
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01-17-14 12:14 PM
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Polygamy brings up social questions in regards to the law.  I look at it from that standpoint and not a religious standpoint.  I think filing group taxes for multiple people takes advantage of the situation that is grounded in the 1 and 1 couple idea, not multiple families filing taxes for multiple households under one marriage.

Socially, who cares?  Sure, someone else's God or Gods disagree but that's your thing, not theirs.  Be like Jesus and don't judge.  If people are happy with several partners, good for them.  If they are taken care of and their emotional needs are met, good for them.  Everyone is just trying live a peaceful and happy life and if having several wives who are satisfied with the arrangement works, great.

It isn't for me.  I can barely handle one wife, much less four or five.  Yikes.
Polygamy brings up social questions in regards to the law.  I look at it from that standpoint and not a religious standpoint.  I think filing group taxes for multiple people takes advantage of the situation that is grounded in the 1 and 1 couple idea, not multiple families filing taxes for multiple households under one marriage.

Socially, who cares?  Sure, someone else's God or Gods disagree but that's your thing, not theirs.  Be like Jesus and don't judge.  If people are happy with several partners, good for them.  If they are taken care of and their emotional needs are met, good for them.  Everyone is just trying live a peaceful and happy life and if having several wives who are satisfied with the arrangement works, great.

It isn't for me.  I can barely handle one wife, much less four or five.  Yikes.
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I am personally against it but that is just my opinion, it is not for me to judge whether or not other people should enter polygamous relationships. I think the case of mick philpott has clouded a lot of people's views but I don't think people should assume everybody who enters into these relationships are like him.
I am personally against it but that is just my opinion, it is not for me to judge whether or not other people should enter polygamous relationships. I think the case of mick philpott has clouded a lot of people's views but I don't think people should assume everybody who enters into these relationships are like him.
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Pretty much piggy backing on what warmaker said. I believe that it is every persons right to get married in terms of religion to other adults as they see fit (as long as there is consent from both parties). But on a government recognized stand point, I do not think that should be the case. With government recognized marriage comes tax benefits. It would be way too easy to manipulate the crap out of if you can have as many government recognized spouses as you want. It happens already with just monogamy. There are plenty of marriages out there where they aren't really marriages, but just a couple of friends who get a recognized marriage certificate so one can be under the other's health insurance, and other examples as such. 

I often get the whole "it's hypocritical to be for gay marriage and against polygamous marriage". Let me clear up, I am NOT against the polygamous lifestyle if nobody involved is forced into it against their will. In no way would I look at someone poorly for being in a polygamous family. They should be able to be married under the eyes of their religion. But in the eyes of the government, only one set of spouses should get the tax and insurance benefits of marriage. Allowing those benefits for as many spouses as you want does cause harm as it takes more and more government funds as you have more spouses. Gay marriage, on the other hand, takes no more than a heterosexual marriage. I didn't WANT to bring in homosexual marriage into this, but I thought I would clear that up because I know a few users around here would love to try to throw that in an attempt to call me hypocritical. 
Pretty much piggy backing on what warmaker said. I believe that it is every persons right to get married in terms of religion to other adults as they see fit (as long as there is consent from both parties). But on a government recognized stand point, I do not think that should be the case. With government recognized marriage comes tax benefits. It would be way too easy to manipulate the crap out of if you can have as many government recognized spouses as you want. It happens already with just monogamy. There are plenty of marriages out there where they aren't really marriages, but just a couple of friends who get a recognized marriage certificate so one can be under the other's health insurance, and other examples as such. 

I often get the whole "it's hypocritical to be for gay marriage and against polygamous marriage". Let me clear up, I am NOT against the polygamous lifestyle if nobody involved is forced into it against their will. In no way would I look at someone poorly for being in a polygamous family. They should be able to be married under the eyes of their religion. But in the eyes of the government, only one set of spouses should get the tax and insurance benefits of marriage. Allowing those benefits for as many spouses as you want does cause harm as it takes more and more government funds as you have more spouses. Gay marriage, on the other hand, takes no more than a heterosexual marriage. I didn't WANT to bring in homosexual marriage into this, but I thought I would clear that up because I know a few users around here would love to try to throw that in an attempt to call me hypocritical. 
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I have absolutely no problem with it, except for the already mentioned possible tax benefit abuse.

I personally think that people who decide to get married shouldn't receive tax benefits anyway, and that would clear the problem right up. I'm not planning to get married, so that puts me at a disadvantage for not trying something that has a failure rate of about 50%. Let's not reward people for having a relationship, why should we? I don't even think marriage should be a government institution, you can have the ceremony and go through all the ritualistic stuff if you like, but why does the government have to be involved?

To someone that would contradict me in saying that the tax benefits help take care of children they might have or adopt, I say I don't care, I don't think people should be rewarded for having children either. Maybe teach people to only have children if they can afford it(that's a completely different thread entirely, and go ahead and make it if you want, because I'm too lazy)

Morally, there's nothing wrong with a polygamist relationship, consenting adults can be in a relationship.
I have absolutely no problem with it, except for the already mentioned possible tax benefit abuse.

I personally think that people who decide to get married shouldn't receive tax benefits anyway, and that would clear the problem right up. I'm not planning to get married, so that puts me at a disadvantage for not trying something that has a failure rate of about 50%. Let's not reward people for having a relationship, why should we? I don't even think marriage should be a government institution, you can have the ceremony and go through all the ritualistic stuff if you like, but why does the government have to be involved?

To someone that would contradict me in saying that the tax benefits help take care of children they might have or adopt, I say I don't care, I don't think people should be rewarded for having children either. Maybe teach people to only have children if they can afford it(that's a completely different thread entirely, and go ahead and make it if you want, because I'm too lazy)

Morally, there's nothing wrong with a polygamist relationship, consenting adults can be in a relationship.
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What happens between consenting adults is their business only. As for same-sex marriage, I believe the state shouldn't be involved in the question and NOT grant any benefits to married couples
What happens between consenting adults is their business only. As for same-sex marriage, I believe the state shouldn't be involved in the question and NOT grant any benefits to married couples
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I feel that each person (adults, specifically) can choose to have multiple partners if they wish. I, personally, am happy that my boyfriend and I each only want each other, but that doesn't mean others feel the same way. I think that in terms of government and how they handle it, I think the more spouses you have, the less coverage (if that's the right word) each one should get so there's no additional benefits for having a ton of spouses. (Even then, my knowledge about government and marriage stuff is still pretty limited. I'm sorry!)
I feel that each person (adults, specifically) can choose to have multiple partners if they wish. I, personally, am happy that my boyfriend and I each only want each other, but that doesn't mean others feel the same way. I think that in terms of government and how they handle it, I think the more spouses you have, the less coverage (if that's the right word) each one should get so there's no additional benefits for having a ton of spouses. (Even then, my knowledge about government and marriage stuff is still pretty limited. I'm sorry!)
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Personally I think trying to handle having a relationship one person at a time is almost too much. In general, why not. About all the taxing and having an actual marriage between multiple partners I have to say I haven't even thought about. Basically why not bur how it should be actually written on the law books, I have no idea. I know some polyamourous people but most of them don't really believe in marriage that much so I have never even heard of any of them mentioning what would they think would be right.
Personally I think trying to handle having a relationship one person at a time is almost too much. In general, why not. About all the taxing and having an actual marriage between multiple partners I have to say I haven't even thought about. Basically why not bur how it should be actually written on the law books, I have no idea. I know some polyamourous people but most of them don't really believe in marriage that much so I have never even heard of any of them mentioning what would they think would be right.
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I know some Religions practice it. But for me personally I don't support it. I know people in the Old Testament in the Bible had more than one wife. However, the New Testament says A man shall be married to one wife. That is my beliefs as I'm a Christian. I just find polygamy illogical. I mean when I think about it, how do they make it work being married to more people. What role doe the other people play?  I guess that is also not just my Christian faith but my culture as well. 

I also want to through out a disclaimer here. If anybody reads this and is in a religion that practices polygamy; please understand that I am not making fun of you. I am just stating my personal views. 
I know some Religions practice it. But for me personally I don't support it. I know people in the Old Testament in the Bible had more than one wife. However, the New Testament says A man shall be married to one wife. That is my beliefs as I'm a Christian. I just find polygamy illogical. I mean when I think about it, how do they make it work being married to more people. What role doe the other people play?  I guess that is also not just my Christian faith but my culture as well. 

I also want to through out a disclaimer here. If anybody reads this and is in a religion that practices polygamy; please understand that I am not making fun of you. I am just stating my personal views. 
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I guess the roles stay pretty much the same they would in a monogamous relationship. The only difference being that you have to take turns.
I guess the roles stay pretty much the same they would in a monogamous relationship. The only difference being that you have to take turns.
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