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REAL FURRIES APPEARING ON THE WORLD???
08-07-13 11:35 AM
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Exactly what you read on the title, apparently there is a group called Vulpine Designs which are developing a project called "Freedom of Form" which consists in altering the DNA of a human being, and transforming them into REAL furries, according to an advertisement my friend received, with it, you would be able to become whatever you want to be, physically, mentally and whatever else, and apparently, the project is currently going really well, maybe they will really succeed. Currently, the project is still in development, and the project is currently ACTIVE, the last announcement of the site was made in July 15th. While I think having a furry appearance would be [ For example: I seen in certain places that some people HATE furries, why that I don't know; Instincts, one thing that COULD be a serious problem, animals have instincts, and there is a CHANCE that a starving furry would try to feast on some random human they encounter on their path; Form received, if I were to really become a furry, I would want to have my hands and feet normal, I wouldn't want to have paws instead of hands and feet, it would be a bit difficult to do things we, humans, are used on doing; Price, such a transformation into a humans COULD cost a HUGE ton, but to see that we must wait and see. Besides those problems, I would certainly accept on becoming one, but most probably I wouldn't be able to become the dragon I wanted to be. D= You can see the site and the currently developments here: www.vulpinedesigns.co.uk And now I'm going to ask you: What do you think that would happen if furries started to exist? Would you accept to become one? Do you agree with some of the possible flaws in the success of the project? Currently, the project is still in development, and the project is currently ACTIVE, the last announcement of the site was made in July 15th. While I think having a furry appearance would be [ For example: I seen in certain places that some people HATE furries, why that I don't know; Instincts, one thing that COULD be a serious problem, animals have instincts, and there is a CHANCE that a starving furry would try to feast on some random human they encounter on their path; Form received, if I were to really become a furry, I would want to have my hands and feet normal, I wouldn't want to have paws instead of hands and feet, it would be a bit difficult to do things we, humans, are used on doing; Price, such a transformation into a humans COULD cost a HUGE ton, but to see that we must wait and see. Besides those problems, I would certainly accept on becoming one, but most probably I wouldn't be able to become the dragon I wanted to be. D= You can see the site and the currently developments here: www.vulpinedesigns.co.uk And now I'm going to ask you: What do you think that would happen if furries started to exist? Would you accept to become one? Do you agree with some of the possible flaws in the success of the project? |
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I find this idea incredibly stupid and a giant waste of general time money and genetics research why do people focus on stupid crap like this why not spend time and money researching into and developing a cure for aids or cancer using genetic science instead of wasteing money and research on stupid uneccassary genetics such as this here. what would becoming a furry do to better humanity or even contribute to society,what would you gain from being a furry? Answer nothing just another stupid genetic genes project. |
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I think you might be mistaken. I took a look at their deviantart account because I was skeptical about their site. And here's what it says in its descr "...Vulpine Designs Unlimited works to apply a holistic approach to the design of all kinds of cool things through the medium of Lego and expanded to include all things which can be altered in a Lego-like way. This concept and the urge to reconfigure ourselves and our lives are known together as Freedom Of Form. Freedom Of Form: A product of community spirit. The future comes in a kit. Many other variants that end in 'it'..." Taken from here http://vulpinedesignsultd.deviantart.com/ So it's basically a philosophy thing of how they view the world in their eyes, and using Lego-like blocks to describe it. I'm not sure where you got furries from, but I think it may be from the name of the group; Vulpine being related to foxes. "...Vulpine Designs Unlimited works to apply a holistic approach to the design of all kinds of cool things through the medium of Lego and expanded to include all things which can be altered in a Lego-like way. This concept and the urge to reconfigure ourselves and our lives are known together as Freedom Of Form. Freedom Of Form: A product of community spirit. The future comes in a kit. Many other variants that end in 'it'..." Taken from here http://vulpinedesignsultd.deviantart.com/ So it's basically a philosophy thing of how they view the world in their eyes, and using Lego-like blocks to describe it. I'm not sure where you got furries from, but I think it may be from the name of the group; Vulpine being related to foxes. |
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Let's all be clear about what kind of furries we're talking about before we have this dicussion. |
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Divine Aurora : You see, This is where it becomes less of a fact such as "There is this group here that does so and so." And where it becomes more of a opinion. Now while yeah I can see where you're coming from as it does kind of seem like a waste of money, At the same time it's a huge leap in scientific study of a somewhat related related field of research, You see, Science works like one big field made up of different blades of grass, Each blade of grass contributes to the whole and let's say we took some away, We then don't have the entire field of grass anymore, They all kind of depend each other too which I should've done a better job of explaining earlier.... (Yay, New paragraph!) But... Let's think like this for a minute, Let's say someone studies snakes as a herpetologist ( That's the study of amphibians and reptiles in case you didn't know.) but doesn't understand the core biology behind it, All science draws on itself in this respect. So you could possibly need to rely on another field of science to progress in your respective field of science, So why you may see it as a waste, I see it as a huge scientific progression towards an interesting goal. Now to actually reply to the thread. (Yay, New paragraph-x2.) Hmm, Would I want to become a furry, I dunno.. Probably not, I like being human but I'm also not against the term completely, As for being racist towards furries, Well, That depends on whether or not they act like humans or wild animals if you get what I mean. At this current rate at which we're going it wouldn't surprise me if we had furry babies in the next big generational wave. But then again the opposite wouldn't surprise me at all either, I've known about this field of research for quite a while and it has always fascinated me to almost no end, But it's not my career and all I can do is sit back and watch the show as it plays before our eyes. But... Let's think like this for a minute, Let's say someone studies snakes as a herpetologist ( That's the study of amphibians and reptiles in case you didn't know.) but doesn't understand the core biology behind it, All science draws on itself in this respect. So you could possibly need to rely on another field of science to progress in your respective field of science, So why you may see it as a waste, I see it as a huge scientific progression towards an interesting goal. Now to actually reply to the thread. (Yay, New paragraph-x2.) Hmm, Would I want to become a furry, I dunno.. Probably not, I like being human but I'm also not against the term completely, As for being racist towards furries, Well, That depends on whether or not they act like humans or wild animals if you get what I mean. At this current rate at which we're going it wouldn't surprise me if we had furry babies in the next big generational wave. But then again the opposite wouldn't surprise me at all either, I've known about this field of research for quite a while and it has always fascinated me to almost no end, But it's not my career and all I can do is sit back and watch the show as it plays before our eyes. |
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Frodlex : So this contributes to society by mutating a gene to make you grow more hair than usual and makes you take on the characteristics of of the animals "furries" which include a slight defect of eating your used to be fellow human? This doesn't contribute not one thing to society besides pointless meddling in human genetics that would create more problems with no real gain. To get back to the thread would I want to become a furry no because I have no interest in a someone mutating my genes to make the furry aspect appear and I diffinitly don't want a side effect of eating my own original human species. And on a side note I don't think the original first post in this thread is accurate information wise and I don't think this crap will ever become reality. |
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Divine Aurora : I never said it would contribute to society, I very clearly stated it as no more than a scientific advancement, Although now that I think of it it would bring so much more potential to humans, Not even necessarily mixing our genes with animals, But what about simply enhancing out minds and muscles? An example I can think of is "The Green Goblin" While he showcases the human potential quite well, He also shows the worse case scenario of it, So while there is potential there is also room for disaster, As it's been said before, We shouldn't play the game of (If you believe in any.) gods. Also, Assuming our genes were mixed with animal genes, Who ever said for certain that the altered humans would become hostile? While that is entirely a possibility, We don't know for sure and never will unless this becomes a reality, Simple as that. Oh, And side note here. But no, This information is accurate and if you've been paying attention to modern science in the past three years you would probably know this by now, This is a legitimate field of science and has seen amazing results so far, Give it time, Just about anything is possible with humans behind the wheel, We are amazing creatures if you look at us that way and we tend to let our imaginations run wild in a specific fashion. And to wrap up the first paragraph, This can have a huge positive effect on society if it's done right, Although I'm not one who likes military, It would basically be handing us super soldiers (Master Chief and spartan's anyone?) and super minds, Think about the potential of it... And yes again I acknowledge that it could go horribly wrong, Never happen, Or could, But what if it does work out for the better? Ah well, Who cares... It's out of our hands anyway and there is no point arguing over it. From here on I'm just gonna sit back and watch this go down with fascination. Also, Assuming our genes were mixed with animal genes, Who ever said for certain that the altered humans would become hostile? While that is entirely a possibility, We don't know for sure and never will unless this becomes a reality, Simple as that. Oh, And side note here. But no, This information is accurate and if you've been paying attention to modern science in the past three years you would probably know this by now, This is a legitimate field of science and has seen amazing results so far, Give it time, Just about anything is possible with humans behind the wheel, We are amazing creatures if you look at us that way and we tend to let our imaginations run wild in a specific fashion. And to wrap up the first paragraph, This can have a huge positive effect on society if it's done right, Although I'm not one who likes military, It would basically be handing us super soldiers (Master Chief and spartan's anyone?) and super minds, Think about the potential of it... And yes again I acknowledge that it could go horribly wrong, Never happen, Or could, But what if it does work out for the better? Ah well, Who cares... It's out of our hands anyway and there is no point arguing over it. From here on I'm just gonna sit back and watch this go down with fascination. |
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I'm not really even sure what all of this is about. Anyway, Sheishiro, as Mistress pointed out, it isn't really what you think. I don't think we will see "real" furries for quite a while yet. As for Frodlex and Divine, please continue, I'm surprised so much discussion came out of this. Anyway, Sheishiro, as Mistress pointed out, it isn't really what you think. I don't think we will see "real" furries for quite a while yet. As for Frodlex and Divine, please continue, I'm surprised so much discussion came out of this. |
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08-08-13 02:33 PM
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Light Knight : Mistress : Frodlex : Divine Aurora : Indeed, the fact of furries starting to exist will really take a long time to happen, my friend (who passed me this information) had direct contact with the owner of this project. According to what the owner of the project said, they didn't enter the phase of research yet, and yes, they ARE planning on making real furries, the owner of the project DID say this, if you want I could present here what he said (he told my friend through DA). I'm unsure about what they are currently doing, probably checking the furry forms in 3D somewhere. Oh and Frod, nice arguing there, kudos for you. Mistress : Frodlex : Divine Aurora : Indeed, the fact of furries starting to exist will really take a long time to happen, my friend (who passed me this information) had direct contact with the owner of this project. According to what the owner of the project said, they didn't enter the phase of research yet, and yes, they ARE planning on making real furries, the owner of the project DID say this, if you want I could present here what he said (he told my friend through DA). I'm unsure about what they are currently doing, probably checking the furry forms in 3D somewhere. Oh and Frod, nice arguing there, kudos for you. |
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I am kind of interested on what the founder said, so could you post it? I want to see how he's going to plan this sort of thing; if that's included in the conversation, that is. |
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Seishiro Leonhart : Wow, thanks for the compliment, any particular part you were mentioning or just the whole argument altogether? Anyways that's not too important, Would it be possible to see a little more evidence like you said you would able to provide? I like reading these kind of things, It's fun and interesting and can help expand your scientific knowledge sometimes. Light Knight : I don't think that'll be possible unless someone takes up his side in the argument seeing as he's banned right now and won't be able to reply to me at all, Besides, I don't like getting into arguments unless I have to and I have a habit of putting up a solid argument when I do. Which in and of itself can become a personal problem between people. Light Knight : I don't think that'll be possible unless someone takes up his side in the argument seeing as he's banned right now and won't be able to reply to me at all, Besides, I don't like getting into arguments unless I have to and I have a habit of putting up a solid argument when I do. Which in and of itself can become a personal problem between people. |
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Seishiro, I am not trying to be rude here. But how can you believe that this 'company' is actually close to something like that? An college genetics I course is all you need to know that this is complete and utter bull crap, despite what this owner claims. Furries? Change into any form of your choosing? We haven't even come close to mapping out the human genome yet, let alone even come close to trying to manipulate it in a way that we could take whatever form we choose. Not to mention that the way this project claims to make it possible isn't even remotely how the genome would work. But that is neither here or there. When we have only successfully mapped the complete genome of what is about the simplest flatworm, this project is no way close to be 'going very well'. Nobody has even mapped the human genome yet. This is not happening, don't buy into this just because they throw around technical jargon. And of course the owner is claiming they are close. Anyone else notice that about 3/4 of this site is trying to get you to buy these programs? This is not happening, don't buy into this just because they throw around technical jargon. And of course the owner is claiming they are close. Anyone else notice that about 3/4 of this site is trying to get you to buy these programs? |
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I'm afraid I'll have to side with rcarter2 on this one. I have taken a Level 2 Diploma Applied Science course (doing level 3 next year ^^), and I am currently planning a project on what it would take to make a legitimate angel (wings on the back, not on the arms). Although you can plan and be creative with the idea all you want, the truth lies in the fact that we simple do not have the knowledge or equipment yet to achieve this, and even if we did, it would most likely start from birth in an artificially environment, and not just 'wap I'm fox now ", because that requires a radical change in your DNA, and it is way, waaaay too easy to develop a fault in a gene or cancer from messing around with DNA. Such a change while living would require (if even possible) immense accuracy to the certain chromosomes (and each gene within it) to change it into requires aspect (humans have a set of 23 chromosomes, dogs do not. This makes things tricky), not only that, but you must to it to each and every cell in your body and there are roughly 100 trillion cells in the human body, several of are different cells that need to be treated differently in order for your body not to reject the new living cells (think organ transplants and how they can reject their new owners). As much as that would be awesome, it is just way too impractical, and you would probably be dead by the time a fraction of your cells were converted. How would the cells be changed anyway? Via injection? From a beam of some kind? Smoke and incense? (okay ignore the last one) I do fail to see the science behind how they'll do it. Now, that isn't to say it's not pointless in trying. IF (super huge if) it can be done, then perhaps we won't really be seeing furries, but a way to get rid of cancer (which are uncontrollably multiplying genes). If gene manipulation is the key, then a lot of diseases could be gotten rid of. HOWEVER, something similar is already being done. They are called Stem Cells, and they are way more practical. If anything could be done with creating real furries, I would focus on doing it with stem cells. Sorry man to break the hopes you've had for this. Such a change while living would require (if even possible) immense accuracy to the certain chromosomes (and each gene within it) to change it into requires aspect (humans have a set of 23 chromosomes, dogs do not. This makes things tricky), not only that, but you must to it to each and every cell in your body and there are roughly 100 trillion cells in the human body, several of are different cells that need to be treated differently in order for your body not to reject the new living cells (think organ transplants and how they can reject their new owners). As much as that would be awesome, it is just way too impractical, and you would probably be dead by the time a fraction of your cells were converted. How would the cells be changed anyway? Via injection? From a beam of some kind? Smoke and incense? (okay ignore the last one) I do fail to see the science behind how they'll do it. Now, that isn't to say it's not pointless in trying. IF (super huge if) it can be done, then perhaps we won't really be seeing furries, but a way to get rid of cancer (which are uncontrollably multiplying genes). If gene manipulation is the key, then a lot of diseases could be gotten rid of. HOWEVER, something similar is already being done. They are called Stem Cells, and they are way more practical. If anything could be done with creating real furries, I would focus on doing it with stem cells. Sorry man to break the hopes you've had for this. |
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So if you kill a furry would that just be a hunter gather getting food for his family like hunting a deer or fishing or would it be human murder despite them now pretty much being some messed up animal abomination |
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I don't think it'll be very successful in the long run because they are messing with the DNA of people. That is if the person were to survive being genetically mutated like that. If they did survive there would be no guarantee that the person would be able to control their new-found animal instincts and therefore they and the project might be considered a threat to society. |
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As long as they don't get rabies and start murdering everyone, I'm fine with it. Jokes aside, it's a cool concept. Yet, it doesn't fit. It'll probably be like other projects like this. They wouldn't survive long, as that's genetically messing with DNA in a foreign way. Also, due to the mixture of the genetics, the outcome probably wouldn't thrive the correct vitamins and necessities needed in order to survive. Jokes aside, it's a cool concept. Yet, it doesn't fit. It'll probably be like other projects like this. They wouldn't survive long, as that's genetically messing with DNA in a foreign way. Also, due to the mixture of the genetics, the outcome probably wouldn't thrive the correct vitamins and necessities needed in order to survive. |
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A project like that of which doesn't actually exist would be a huge waste of time, money, and resources of what humans should be doing. I'm also perfectly content on being normal human. |
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People seem to get butt hurt whenever someone develops technology that doesn't suit their needs. Get over it, these people can do what they want, it is their money. I think this is actually pretty cool, but I feel like it will cause the furries to take over the world and enslave us all (joking). People can do to their bodies what they want, it's like getting piercings or tattoos, just a bit more... extreme. |
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