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The Innaguration

 
$40 million. Too much? Is spending 40 million on a second term innaguration during a war and the largest deficit in history frivolous?
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Its waaay to much in my opinion. There are going to be NINE Presidential Balls afterwards. Isn't one enough?
Its waaay to much in my opinion. There are going to be NINE Presidential Balls afterwards. Isn't one enough?
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Who is it being payed for by, and show me some sources
Who is it being payed for by, and show me some sources
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http://www.inaugural05.com/donors/

"Official" List of Corporate Donors

However they omit certain large donations from "private citizens" such as wacko cultist Reverend Sun Young Moon.

Its not WHERE the money comes from necessarily, but the IMAGE it produces. Do you think it wise to flaunt our wealth after tragedy in southeast asia, genocide and famine in Sudan, and chaotic Iraq? Here's a political cartoon that I think conveys it well:

http://www.inaugural05.com/donors/

"Official" List of Corporate Donors

However they omit certain large donations from "private citizens" such as wacko cultist Reverend Sun Young Moon.

Its not WHERE the money comes from necessarily, but the IMAGE it produces. Do you think it wise to flaunt our wealth after tragedy in southeast asia, genocide and famine in Sudan, and chaotic Iraq? Here's a political cartoon that I think conveys it well:

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Acctually, if he wants to throw one hell of a party let him. You shouldn't be able to tell him what he can do. Its a free country my friend. What kind of image do you think it shows when people burn the flag. Yet many are for that.
Acctually, if he wants to throw one hell of a party let him. You shouldn't be able to tell him what he can do. Its a free country my friend. What kind of image do you think it shows when people burn the flag. Yet many are for that.
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John, why do you immediately assume that by condemning one thing, I support another? I am both against the frivolous price tag of the innaguration and flag burning (whatever that has to do with anything) though I think you'd be hard pressed to find a U.S. president having burned a U.S. flag or a $40 million one at that.
John, why do you immediately assume that by condemning one thing, I support another? I am both against the frivolous price tag of the innaguration and flag burning (whatever that has to do with anything) though I think you'd be hard pressed to find a U.S. president having burned a U.S. flag or a $40 million one at that.
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I really don't see how this ISN'T frivolous and overall stupid.

40 million dollars that could've went to relief efforts for a damn party?
I really don't see how this ISN'T frivolous and overall stupid.

40 million dollars that could've went to relief efforts for a damn party?
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Our president is a dumbass, what else do you want?
Our president is a dumbass, what else do you want?
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I have to agree that this party is frivilous.... and quite so

now, the contribution of money, and the big party, wouldn't matter so much to me, if the donations that were made were matched by donations to the relief effot... by the people that made them.... they have money to throw a party... then they have money to help people that don't have any food
I have to agree that this party is frivilous.... and quite so

now, the contribution of money, and the big party, wouldn't matter so much to me, if the donations that were made were matched by donations to the relief effot... by the people that made them.... they have money to throw a party... then they have money to help people that don't have any food
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My family doesnt have moola to spare and we are supporting two little kids that went through the tsunami...
My family doesnt have moola to spare and we are supporting two little kids that went through the tsunami...
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I would have to say thats wayyyy to much, some people are greedy bastards!
I would have to say thats wayyyy to much, some people are greedy bastards!
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Its a free country. The man can throw as big of a party as he wants without you people citizing him at every step. Geeze, somepeople just never give up.....

Side note: Since this wasn't the gov'ts money it really doesn't matter at all.
Its a free country. The man can throw as big of a party as he wants without you people citizing him at every step. Geeze, somepeople just never give up.....

Side note: Since this wasn't the gov'ts money it really doesn't matter at all.
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Of course it's a free country, Doesn't make the actions taken upon that freedom are right.

It's my freedom to be a racist a**h***, but that's not right.

40 million for a party, That's really obscenely over-priced.
Of course it's a free country, Doesn't make the actions taken upon that freedom are right.

It's my freedom to be a racist a**h***, but that's not right.

40 million for a party, That's really obscenely over-priced.
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Who cares? Why do you people care so damn much?... maybe because you wern't invited? Thats the only reason i could possibly come up with in my mind.
Who cares? Why do you people care so damn much?... maybe because you wern't invited? Thats the only reason i could possibly come up with in my mind.
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Um, actually, its not invitation. Bush whores himself out for $5,000 bucks a pop which once again is over the price range of the normal American looking to see their president.
Um, actually, its not invitation. Bush whores himself out for $5,000 bucks a pop which once again is over the price range of the normal American looking to see their president.
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Uh, D.C. IS getting stuck with some of the bill.

U.S. Tells D.C. to Pay Inaugural Expenses
Other Security Projects Would Lose $11.9 Million
Uh, D.C. IS getting stuck with some of the bill.

U.S. Tells D.C. to Pay Inaugural Expenses
Other Security Projects Would Lose $11.9 Million
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you need a new link... that one just asks me to subscirbe
you need a new link... that one just asks me to subscirbe
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Not getting out of reading it that easily John:


U.S. Tells D.C. to Pay Inaugural Expenses
Other Security Projects Would Lose $11.9 Million

By Spencer S. Hsu
Washington Post Staff Writer
Tuesday, January 11, 2005; Page A01

D.C. officials said yesterday that the Bush administration is refusing to reimburse the District for most of the costs associated with next week's inauguration, breaking with precedent and forcing the city to divert $11.9 million from homeland security projects.

Federal officials have told the District that it should cover the expenses by using some of the $240 million in federal homeland security grants it has received in the past three years -- money awarded to the city because it is among the places at highest risk of a terrorist attack.

But that grant money is earmarked for other security needs, Mayor Anthony A. Williams (D) said in a Dec. 27 letter to Office of Management and Budget Director Joshua B. Bolten and Homeland Security Secretary Tom Ridge. Williams's office released the letter yesterday.

Williams estimated that the city's costs for the inauguration will total $17.3 million, most of it related to security. City officials said they can use an unspent $5.4 million from an annual federal fund that reimburses the District for costs incurred because of its status as the capital. But that leaves $11.9 million not covered, they said.

"We want to make this the best possible event, but not at the expense of D.C. taxpayers and other homeland security priorities," said Gregory M. McCarthy, the mayor's deputy chief of staff. "This is the first time there hasn't been a direct appropriation for the inauguration."

A spokesman for Rep. Thomas M. Davis III (R-Va.), chairman of the House Government Reform Committee, which oversees the District, agreed with the mayor's stance. He called the Bush administration's position "simply not acceptable."

"It's an unfunded mandate of the most odious kind. How can the District be asked to take funds from important homeland security projects to pay for this instead?" said Davis spokesman David Marin.

The region has earmarked federal homeland security funds for such priorities as increasing hospital capacity, equipping firefighters with protective gear and building transit system command centers.

OMB spokesman Chad Kolton said no additional appropriation is needed for the inauguration.

"We think that an appropriate balance of money from [the annual reimbursement] fund and from homeland security grants is the most effective way to cover the additional cost the city incurs," Kolton said. "We recognize the city has a special burden to bear for many of these events. . . . That's expressly why in the post-9/11 era we are providing additional resources."

The $17.3 million the city expects to spend on this inauguration marks a sharp increase from the $8 million it incurred for Bush's first.

According to Williams's letter, the District anticipates spending $8.8 million in overtime pay for about 2,000 D.C. police officers; $2.7 million to pay 1,000-plus officers being sent by other jurisdictions across the country; $3 million to construct reviewing stands; and $2.5 million to place public works, health, transportation, fire, emergency management and business services on emergency footing.

Congressional aides said the District sought unsuccessfully last year to boost the annual security reimbursement fund from $15 million to $25 million to pay for inauguration expenses. In contrast, New York City and Boston-area lawmakers were able to obtain $50 million from Congress for each of those two jurisdictions to cover local security costs for the national political conventions.

Inauguration officials said they plan to spend $40 million on the four-day celebration, which will include fireworks, the swearing-in, a parade and nine balls. Those expenses -- which do not include security and other public services -- are being funded by private donors.

OMB and DHS spokesmen said they could not provide an estimate of what the inauguration will cost the federal government.

Federal employees who work in the District, Montgomery, Prince George's, Fairfax and Arlington counties, Alexandria and Falls Church are entitled to a holiday on Inauguration Day, Jan. 20, the Office of Personnel Management has announced. As of June, the cost of giving federal workers in the capital area a day off was about $66 million.

Del. Eleanor Holmes Norton (D-D.C.) asked OPM chief Kay Coles James yesterday to dismiss federal employees at noon or 1 p.m. Jan. 19 to avoid gridlock. The Secret Service plans to close an area bordered by Constitution Avenue and E, 15th and 17th streets NW at 3:45 p.m. that day to accommodate a ceremony at the White House Ellipse, Norton's office said.
Not getting out of reading it that easily John:


U.S. Tells D.C. to Pay Inaugural Expenses
Other Security Projects Would Lose $11.9 Million

By Spencer S. Hsu
Washington Post Staff Writer
Tuesday, January 11, 2005; Page A01

D.C. officials said yesterday that the Bush administration is refusing to reimburse the District for most of the costs associated with next week's inauguration, breaking with precedent and forcing the city to divert $11.9 million from homeland security projects.

Federal officials have told the District that it should cover the expenses by using some of the $240 million in federal homeland security grants it has received in the past three years -- money awarded to the city because it is among the places at highest risk of a terrorist attack.

But that grant money is earmarked for other security needs, Mayor Anthony A. Williams (D) said in a Dec. 27 letter to Office of Management and Budget Director Joshua B. Bolten and Homeland Security Secretary Tom Ridge. Williams's office released the letter yesterday.

Williams estimated that the city's costs for the inauguration will total $17.3 million, most of it related to security. City officials said they can use an unspent $5.4 million from an annual federal fund that reimburses the District for costs incurred because of its status as the capital. But that leaves $11.9 million not covered, they said.

"We want to make this the best possible event, but not at the expense of D.C. taxpayers and other homeland security priorities," said Gregory M. McCarthy, the mayor's deputy chief of staff. "This is the first time there hasn't been a direct appropriation for the inauguration."

A spokesman for Rep. Thomas M. Davis III (R-Va.), chairman of the House Government Reform Committee, which oversees the District, agreed with the mayor's stance. He called the Bush administration's position "simply not acceptable."

"It's an unfunded mandate of the most odious kind. How can the District be asked to take funds from important homeland security projects to pay for this instead?" said Davis spokesman David Marin.

The region has earmarked federal homeland security funds for such priorities as increasing hospital capacity, equipping firefighters with protective gear and building transit system command centers.

OMB spokesman Chad Kolton said no additional appropriation is needed for the inauguration.

"We think that an appropriate balance of money from [the annual reimbursement] fund and from homeland security grants is the most effective way to cover the additional cost the city incurs," Kolton said. "We recognize the city has a special burden to bear for many of these events. . . . That's expressly why in the post-9/11 era we are providing additional resources."

The $17.3 million the city expects to spend on this inauguration marks a sharp increase from the $8 million it incurred for Bush's first.

According to Williams's letter, the District anticipates spending $8.8 million in overtime pay for about 2,000 D.C. police officers; $2.7 million to pay 1,000-plus officers being sent by other jurisdictions across the country; $3 million to construct reviewing stands; and $2.5 million to place public works, health, transportation, fire, emergency management and business services on emergency footing.

Congressional aides said the District sought unsuccessfully last year to boost the annual security reimbursement fund from $15 million to $25 million to pay for inauguration expenses. In contrast, New York City and Boston-area lawmakers were able to obtain $50 million from Congress for each of those two jurisdictions to cover local security costs for the national political conventions.

Inauguration officials said they plan to spend $40 million on the four-day celebration, which will include fireworks, the swearing-in, a parade and nine balls. Those expenses -- which do not include security and other public services -- are being funded by private donors.

OMB and DHS spokesmen said they could not provide an estimate of what the inauguration will cost the federal government.

Federal employees who work in the District, Montgomery, Prince George's, Fairfax and Arlington counties, Alexandria and Falls Church are entitled to a holiday on Inauguration Day, Jan. 20, the Office of Personnel Management has announced. As of June, the cost of giving federal workers in the capital area a day off was about $66 million.

Del. Eleanor Holmes Norton (D-D.C.) asked OPM chief Kay Coles James yesterday to dismiss federal employees at noon or 1 p.m. Jan. 19 to avoid gridlock. The Secret Service plans to close an area bordered by Constitution Avenue and E, 15th and 17th streets NW at 3:45 p.m. that day to accommodate a ceremony at the White House Ellipse, Norton's office said.
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Yea, he prolly should pay it back. The article (that yes, i did read) didn't change my mind.
Yea, he prolly should pay it back. The article (that yes, i did read) didn't change my mind.
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Why do people care? John, you say that I'm hearless?

This money could go to a number of things...

Tsunami victims
Schools
Towns

Main one? Tsunami victims. You dont think that some 40 million dollars would help some little poor children who dont have food, homes, or whatnot? You say that im heartless, when you would rather see some rich people eat caviar and celebrate a President going into another term...I would say that is heartless
Why do people care? John, you say that I'm hearless?

This money could go to a number of things...

Tsunami victims
Schools
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Main one? Tsunami victims. You dont think that some 40 million dollars would help some little poor children who dont have food, homes, or whatnot? You say that im heartless, when you would rather see some rich people eat caviar and celebrate a President going into another term...I would say that is heartless
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So, Washington D.C is getting screwed out of millions of dollars for homeland security so Bush can have a party?

I still can't see how anyone could think that's right.

But who knows.
So, Washington D.C is getting screwed out of millions of dollars for homeland security so Bush can have a party?

I still can't see how anyone could think that's right.

But who knows.
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