I don't know where to begin. What is going through their minds today. When I see a women prancing around like a s***, with a different man every other day, cheating on their husbands, or having multiple children by different fathers it just makes me sad. Yes I know lot of men do the same things, but women are way more out of control with it.

Sometimes I believe women may have to much freedom. I hate saying it and they deserve the same rights as men, but they abuse their freedom way to much.

Instead of such broad, vague, and seemingly baseless claims, why not make an actual argument that can spur a real debate?

... Ok... so with all of the attacks on women's rights that have happened this last week I am just going to say that you picked the absolute WRONG time to make this post.

First off... "women are way more out of control with it"... really? No... it is just harder for women to hide it. A guy who sleeps with everyone can knock up every single one of those women and no one will know he did it. But if the woman does it, she is the one to get pregnant and she can't really hide that.

Second: You judge the woman for having the kids, but you make absolutely NO negative comments on the men that father them. None at all. What about the men that have like five different kids with five different women? At least the woman is RAISING those children, unlike the fathers who do nothing to contribute.

More men cheat on their wives. Again, much harder to get caught.

I don't know which woman in particular set this off, but to judge my entire gender by the actions of one or two people is HIGHLY offensive.

And people wonder why the fem-Nazis continue to crop up and make claims that all men are chauvinist pigs. That's right, I said fem-Nazis... but right now, at this moment, I kinda understand them. Seriously... "women may have to much freedom"? First off, it's "too" not "to" and secondly it is very hard to believe your later statement that you think we deserve the same rights when you make that statement immediately beforehand.

You would never, ever make that statement about a man, but you somehow think that it is okay for you to make it about a woman? Here is a news flash for you: Our freedoms are not something that we can abuse, they are not something that men granted to us, there is no such thing as us having "too much freedom" and if you think that you can sit there and pass judgement on an entire group of the human race or even hint at curtailing them, then you are sadly mistaken!

My opinion comes from a man that wants to someday get married and have a family. After seeing what my grandfather, my father, many of my good friends, and what I myself have dealt with I do not see that as a possible goal for any good honest man today. Im sorry it's just to many people I know including myself have been screwed over by women in horrific ways.  Ya my statement was pretty harsh. I apologize.

One of the biggest issues to me is that people feel that because they live in a "free country," they have the right to do what they want and then freak out when there are consequences to their actions. Men and women both need to understand that a marriage vow is a vow, and that when they make that commitment, they must do whatever they can to uphold it. Nowadays people's words mean nothing, it seems, and it's acceptable in our society to advertise divorce billboards next to adult video ones.

That's a little off topic, but I don't think you should be discouraged, senosuke. If you want to have a successful relationship and marriage, you need to get to know the person you are with very well. Realize and accept that over time, your relationship will evolve as you two grow together, and that there will be hardships you have to deal with together. Bolting because things aren't going your way is just a contribution to the poor statistics we have as a society. If you are honest with your wife (I'll go that far because I think it's more important than just a simple relationship) and show her the proper respect she deserves, I almost guarantee that she'll do the same for you (that is assuming you got to know her very well and decided she was the one you wanted to marry). You shouldn't worry about women screwing you over, just as your future woman shouldn't have to worry about you doing that, either. And if you find the right girl for you, there really isn't anything to worry about. Don't be carried away by fleeting emotions, though!

i agree with you, women can be really bad and s***ty. but not every female is that way. a good majority of the girls i know are trying their best to find a single guy to be with for the rest of their lives. they can be great girls if you find the right women

Normally, All The Women I see are cheaters, s***s, ETC.

tiber1976 : As bad as I want to make a snarky comment at this post, I'm going to take the high road and ask you to be more appropriate and respectful so that others aren't offended, and so that you don't look ignorant. It's understandable to have an opinion and to make an observation about the things that are going on, but you can definitely do it in a way that shows more class and tact than the way you've just shown us. Not only that, but unless you hang out in the red light district in a large city, "all" of the women you see aren't cheaters or whatever you might consider to fall under "ETC." In fact, chances are you don't know the majority of women you see, so you can't tell me that they're "all" anything.

This thread is hilarious.  It seems to be a rallying point for guys, most of whom are probably bitter and lonely, to explain how they feel all women should conform to their arbitrary and empty standards. As far as sleeping around or cheating goes, women certainly have no monopoly on the matter. In fact, as far as social stigmas go, it is far more acceptable for a man to sleep around than a woman. But that seems to have been forgotten in this circle-jerk.

Traduweise : We really need a Like button for posts here.

senosuke : Perhaps you should ask why those women did what they did? Women don't just have a "I'm gonna cheat" function, usually they are driven to it for one reason or another. It takes two to screw up a relationship, so I am pretty sure your male relations and friends are not totally innocent in these matters... just saying.

senosuke : Wow, wow, wow, WOAH! I'm a guy and I think this is very vague and inaccurate. I think you approached this in a very disgusting manner. You need to have proper facts to actually justify this argument, or to even create this argument, 

I'm sorry, but this needs to be closed.

The original post was a "women were mean to me" post, and the rest have been punching senosuke in the face for his first post.

To add my thoughts, you have had trouble in relationships, it happens. There is no need to make a thread and insinuate that all women are s***s that want nothing more than to cheat on honest guys.

No debate, no discussion, no service.