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06-30-09 03:57 PM
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Title says it all. Ever thought about how Ash NEVER EVER won most of his badges in the Kanto region fairly??

Gyms
1. pikachu hit the fire hydrant thingy, causing it to shower the whole field and soak up onix. pikachu didnt beat onix fair and square.

2. misty was NOT the gym leader but her sisters.

3. (woops.. i think its fair against lt. surge or w/e his name is)

4. ash rescued erika's gloom.

5. ash or actually, haunter made sabrina laugh.

6. soul badge? (i dont remember)

7. fair? i dont remember much either

8. ash fought team rocket (jessie,james&meowth) not giovani, and won.
Title says it all. Ever thought about how Ash NEVER EVER won most of his badges in the Kanto region fairly??

Gyms
1. pikachu hit the fire hydrant thingy, causing it to shower the whole field and soak up onix. pikachu didnt beat onix fair and square.

2. misty was NOT the gym leader but her sisters.

3. (woops.. i think its fair against lt. surge or w/e his name is)

4. ash rescued erika's gloom.

5. ash or actually, haunter made sabrina laugh.

6. soul badge? (i dont remember)

7. fair? i dont remember much either

8. ash fought team rocket (jessie,james&meowth) not giovani, and won.
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who knows? if he actually lost his battles, he wouldnt be the main character, now would he?

but true, he isnt gaining them fairly, but that is anime not game boy or anything else, so you have to say that he cant lose. if he does, what would happen to him!

[edit] forgot a space
who knows? if he actually lost his battles, he wouldnt be the main character, now would he?

but true, he isnt gaining them fairly, but that is anime not game boy or anything else, so you have to say that he cant lose. if he does, what would happen to him!

[edit] forgot a space
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(edited by Shira13 on 06-30-09 04:07 PM)    

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Thats so funny because i always realized that he always got it from helping someone out..WOW if you put it that way yeah huh....You ever wonder what level ashes pikachu is on???
Thats so funny because i always realized that he always got it from helping someone out..WOW if you put it that way yeah huh....You ever wonder what level ashes pikachu is on???
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a dizzle: im betting ash's pikachu is around lv 40 something, because it apperently knows thunder from last time i know.

a dizzle: im betting ash's pikachu is around lv 40 something, because it apperently knows thunder from last time i know.

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ash is a total cheater but what do you expect tv makes things totally crappy like that plus all good stuff happens in japan so were left with bull @%*& get my drift but anyway i still think the star pokemon should be swiched you know so ash got eevee but hey cute never gets it good still why did they have to use a dand freakin chinchilla thing
ash is a total cheater but what do you expect tv makes things totally crappy like that plus all good stuff happens in japan so were left with bull @%*& get my drift but anyway i still think the star pokemon should be swiched you know so ash got eevee but hey cute never gets it good still why did they have to use a dand freakin chinchilla thing
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astralinadia, punctuate your posts so they're actually readable

anyway, he's also not a cheater because every time he gets to a new region, pikachu sucks again. seriously, the thing should be level 100 by now
astralinadia, punctuate your posts so they're actually readable

anyway, he's also not a cheater because every time he gets to a new region, pikachu sucks again. seriously, the thing should be level 100 by now
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haha i know what you guys mean, and its also kinda dumb on letting go (releasing) some of his best pokemon. for example... pidgeot- one of the most powerful flying type there is. primape- a really good fighting type. squirtle went back to the squirtle squad (i think). butterfree- ehhh, he's useful right? lol. charizard- he didnt really released him but he's so lazy that he's having someone train his charizard for him.
haha i know what you guys mean, and its also kinda dumb on letting go (releasing) some of his best pokemon. for example... pidgeot- one of the most powerful flying type there is. primape- a really good fighting type. squirtle went back to the squirtle squad (i think). butterfree- ehhh, he's useful right? lol. charizard- he didnt really released him but he's so lazy that he's having someone train his charizard for him.
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I just dont get why ash wont evolve pikachu and give us a new star pokemon. the yellow rat is olllld
I just dont get why ash wont evolve pikachu and give us a new star pokemon. the yellow rat is olllld
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AznJohn: Charizard is the one who wanted to be left behind, it's not because Ash felt lazy to train Charizard.

Broker: I think the answer to your question can be found in the very first episodes of pokemon, where pikachu dislikes Ash and always zaps him with electricity... I can't remember why pikachu didn't want to evolve anymore, but it had been said in the anime.

AznJohn: Charizard is the one who wanted to be left behind, it's not because Ash felt lazy to train Charizard.

Broker: I think the answer to your question can be found in the very first episodes of pokemon, where pikachu dislikes Ash and always zaps him with electricity... I can't remember why pikachu didn't want to evolve anymore, but it had been said in the anime.

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Several things. Ash is a kind trainer. He let his Pokemon do what they wanted.
Every single one thats left has been because they wanted to do a certain thing.

The first instance where Pikachu had a chance to evolve was the fight against Lt. Surge.
Pikachu didn't want to evolve, instead prefering to stay as it was, wanting to fight how it was.

Every replacement gym leader is still a valid battle, despite what anyone thinks because the replacement leaders were authorised by the original leader.
Also, just because in the game you have to battle for badges does not mean that the same rule must always apply in the anime.
The moral is showing that kindness should be rewarded, even if that isn't how things work in real life.
Several things. Ash is a kind trainer. He let his Pokemon do what they wanted.
Every single one thats left has been because they wanted to do a certain thing.

The first instance where Pikachu had a chance to evolve was the fight against Lt. Surge.
Pikachu didn't want to evolve, instead prefering to stay as it was, wanting to fight how it was.

Every replacement gym leader is still a valid battle, despite what anyone thinks because the replacement leaders were authorised by the original leader.
Also, just because in the game you have to battle for badges does not mean that the same rule must always apply in the anime.
The moral is showing that kindness should be rewarded, even if that isn't how things work in real life.
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true, totaly true, but the game on gameboy isn't real life you now!

ps:- butterfree left because he found his love(if i can put it like that )
- squirtle left because Ash was going to change region and squirtle wanted to see his friends again
- charizard left for the same reason as butterfree but he still helps Ash out some time
-i dont rememer for the others
true, totaly true, but the game on gameboy isn't real life you now!

ps:- butterfree left because he found his love(if i can put it like that )
- squirtle left because Ash was going to change region and squirtle wanted to see his friends again
- charizard left for the same reason as butterfree but he still helps Ash out some time
-i dont rememer for the others
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hmm i see what you mean DH. he is kind, but sometimes too kind to let things pass him by. well not too kind but more like, oblivious? i mean you guys agree the misty had feelings for him right? (lol) but he let that go. idiot. >.> and he's somewhat of a pedophile too (but not really) i mean now he's in sinnoh right? he should be around... idk but dawn is like what.. 3-4 years younger? what if ash is already 18 O_o
hmm i see what you mean DH. he is kind, but sometimes too kind to let things pass him by. well not too kind but more like, oblivious? i mean you guys agree the misty had feelings for him right? (lol) but he let that go. idiot. >.> and he's somewhat of a pedophile too (but not really) i mean now he's in sinnoh right? he should be around... idk but dawn is like what.. 3-4 years younger? what if ash is already 18 O_o
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Oh yeah, Ash is definatly oblivious to the world around him, but so are alot of the other people in the Pokemon world (can you say team rocket).
I have no idea of the time rate or aging process of people in that world, but I assume Ash is about the equivalent of 16.
Oh yeah, Ash is definatly oblivious to the world around him, but so are alot of the other people in the Pokemon world (can you say team rocket).
I have no idea of the time rate or aging process of people in that world, but I assume Ash is about the equivalent of 16.
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Well, I thought they made him 13 when he started Johto. I remember hearing that. At the rate of 3 years per region...he's...19?!
Well, I thought they made him 13 when he started Johto. I remember hearing that. At the rate of 3 years per region...he's...19?!
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haha team rocket is pretty much just a comic releaf. and also note that brock is like... 2-3 years older than ash. and he has a pedophilic personality. xD hahaha im pretty sure kids like my younger brother would freak out like i did if he watches pokemon again ones he's around 16 or something lol
haha team rocket is pretty much just a comic releaf. and also note that brock is like... 2-3 years older than ash. and he has a pedophilic personality. xD hahaha im pretty sure kids like my younger brother would freak out like i did if he watches pokemon again ones he's around 16 or something lol
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Well I suppose its like the simpsons.
I mean the show has been on for what, 20 years or more, yet bart is still the same age...
We have to assume each episode of Pokemon that doesnt state or show a time frame is one day only, so assuming that each season is 30 eps, 10-12 seasons, thats like 360 days.
Add maybe a year of unaccounted for time (a few of the movies arnt canon to the series) and you have ash at maybe 15.
Well I suppose its like the simpsons.
I mean the show has been on for what, 20 years or more, yet bart is still the same age...
We have to assume each episode of Pokemon that doesnt state or show a time frame is one day only, so assuming that each season is 30 eps, 10-12 seasons, thats like 360 days.
Add maybe a year of unaccounted for time (a few of the movies arnt canon to the series) and you have ash at maybe 15.
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I wouldn't call that cheating (but good point).
I call that using your surroundings.
But if you want to think bad of Ash feel free.
I love pokemon and I never actually thought of Ash cheating.
I wouldn't call that cheating (but good point).
I call that using your surroundings.
But if you want to think bad of Ash feel free.
I love pokemon and I never actually thought of Ash cheating.
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Ash is awesome, he does not need to cheat the writers just makes him pwn everyone!
Ash is awesome, he does not need to cheat the writers just makes him pwn everyone!
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But, he's lost a bunch of battles.


@DH: but the show actually said he was 13 at the beginning of Johto. Maybe he got faster since then?
But, he's lost a bunch of battles.


@DH: but the show actually said he was 13 at the beginning of Johto. Maybe he got faster since then?
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Sounds about right to me ziggy. If I recall the age for beginner trainers is 12 or 13 so that makes all the episodes before Johto maybe 6 months.
Yep, my hypothosis stands firm
Sounds about right to me ziggy. If I recall the age for beginner trainers is 12 or 13 so that makes all the episodes before Johto maybe 6 months.
Yep, my hypothosis stands firm
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