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05-12-13 06:50 PM
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and for all those that say change the pose aswell as the colors... ITS IMPOSSIBLE without changing the entire way the game thinks about shinys... a shiny sprite and a normal sprite are the same... they HAVE to be the same...

Shinys are simply Palette changes... so changing the sprite of a shiny is not going to happen (i have tried)

also for thos working on shinies for the hacker here... keep you shiny sprites to only 8 colors... 1 pokemon gets 1 16 color palette, 8 are for the normal pokemon and 8 are for its shiny... it is possible to use the first 8 colors with the shiny since it loads the entire palette anyway so technically you have 16 colors at your disposal but 8 of them cannot change without hurting the normal sprite...


and stat boosting of shinies (another reoccuring request)... also probably not going to happen without a MAJOR overhaul of how the game thinks... I am not saying that it cannot be done... but it is highly unlikely (although it would be awesome)

I can think of a half script half asm way to do it but it would be VERY hard to implement it to the normal battle sequence, so it happens automatically... 

I realize that giving AWESOME "tips" and "suggestions" (which are nothing more than requests really) without understanding is the norm but I implore EVERYONE to learn a bit about hacking so you atleast know what is in the scope of the powers that hackers possess... not everything can be done...

I dont mean to sound like a a$$hat or anything I just hate to see good ideas get so much backing because people dont understand what they are asking. Most hackers (especially newer ones) will say "ill look into it" or "ill see what I can do" weather they know it spossible or not. they arent explaining how difficult some requests are and it leaves the non hackers (hack players) in the dark about how hacking works.

having different sprites for shiny and non shiny woudl be awesome... but when you actually put them in the game they meld together (cause they actually share 1 image) and because they ARE the same pokemon (with 1 bit of data changed, the part that points to the palette) changing their stats is near impossible... think about what you are asking... force 1 pokemon to be more powerful or a different shape than another pokemon that are the same kind of pokemon... its arbitrary... you need to look into how the game thinks about things and howstats or poses are brought to the ram (games active brain)
and for all those that say change the pose aswell as the colors... ITS IMPOSSIBLE without changing the entire way the game thinks about shinys... a shiny sprite and a normal sprite are the same... they HAVE to be the same...

Shinys are simply Palette changes... so changing the sprite of a shiny is not going to happen (i have tried)

also for thos working on shinies for the hacker here... keep you shiny sprites to only 8 colors... 1 pokemon gets 1 16 color palette, 8 are for the normal pokemon and 8 are for its shiny... it is possible to use the first 8 colors with the shiny since it loads the entire palette anyway so technically you have 16 colors at your disposal but 8 of them cannot change without hurting the normal sprite...


and stat boosting of shinies (another reoccuring request)... also probably not going to happen without a MAJOR overhaul of how the game thinks... I am not saying that it cannot be done... but it is highly unlikely (although it would be awesome)

I can think of a half script half asm way to do it but it would be VERY hard to implement it to the normal battle sequence, so it happens automatically... 

I realize that giving AWESOME "tips" and "suggestions" (which are nothing more than requests really) without understanding is the norm but I implore EVERYONE to learn a bit about hacking so you atleast know what is in the scope of the powers that hackers possess... not everything can be done...

I dont mean to sound like a a$$hat or anything I just hate to see good ideas get so much backing because people dont understand what they are asking. Most hackers (especially newer ones) will say "ill look into it" or "ill see what I can do" weather they know it spossible or not. they arent explaining how difficult some requests are and it leaves the non hackers (hack players) in the dark about how hacking works.

having different sprites for shiny and non shiny woudl be awesome... but when you actually put them in the game they meld together (cause they actually share 1 image) and because they ARE the same pokemon (with 1 bit of data changed, the part that points to the palette) changing their stats is near impossible... think about what you are asking... force 1 pokemon to be more powerful or a different shape than another pokemon that are the same kind of pokemon... its arbitrary... you need to look into how the game thinks about things and howstats or poses are brought to the ram (games active brain)

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05-13-13 01:49 AM
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LocksmithArmy : This was in an idea stage and not in fact a hacking stage.
You can actually change the Palettes within the games so recoloring the sprites isn't as difficult as you would first think.
Anyway as for the first question about Shinyizer I'm not using shinyizer for increasing the chance, I've got a tool which allows me to change key game-play mechanics which I think I'll have to practice before even starting.

Local Mods : Mind closing?
I don't think I'll have enough time to even get this hack started before summer.
LocksmithArmy : This was in an idea stage and not in fact a hacking stage.
You can actually change the Palettes within the games so recoloring the sprites isn't as difficult as you would first think.
Anyway as for the first question about Shinyizer I'm not using shinyizer for increasing the chance, I've got a tool which allows me to change key game-play mechanics which I think I'll have to practice before even starting.

Local Mods : Mind closing?
I don't think I'll have enough time to even get this hack started before summer.

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iN008 : Your making a Pokémon hack 0_o. But anyways what do you plan of doing in this emerald hack, are you going to change the games map, are you going to up the difficulty and are you going to have the national pokedex available early on in game, and also will the hack have Pokémon from all gens or just 3rd?
iN008 : Your making a Pokémon hack 0_o. But anyways what do you plan of doing in this emerald hack, are you going to change the games map, are you going to up the difficulty and are you going to have the national pokedex available early on in game, and also will the hack have Pokémon from all gens or just 3rd?

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iN008 : I know you can change the games palattes... Recoloring is easy (did I not say that several times)
doing the recolors is a great idea (while it is a little time consuming you can do it) 

I am interested in what tool you are using to change the shiny rate... could I atleast get its name (to see if I have it or not, as I have most decent tools on the market atm)
iN008 : I know you can change the games palattes... Recoloring is easy (did I not say that several times)
doing the recolors is a great idea (while it is a little time consuming you can do it) 

I am interested in what tool you are using to change the shiny rate... could I atleast get its name (to see if I have it or not, as I have most decent tools on the market atm)

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05-13-13 09:53 AM
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LocksmithArmy : Sorry can't disclose any information about the tool, it is in a toolbox a friend developed and it isn't for public use at this moment. I mentioned it in an earlier post. He made most of the tools within the toolbox
LocksmithArmy : Sorry can't disclose any information about the tool, it is in a toolbox a friend developed and it isn't for public use at this moment. I mentioned it in an earlier post. He made most of the tools within the toolbox

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@Denia:

I hope this shiny recolor pleases you a little more
than the Original Shiny Dragonite.
On the other hand, I agree with you, from it changing to
green from pink is a little weird...
@Denia:

I hope this shiny recolor pleases you a little more
than the Original Shiny Dragonite.
On the other hand, I agree with you, from it changing to
green from pink is a little weird...

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