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03-23-13 10:59 PM
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I think this is kind of an issue that might become big in the future.

In my Law class we were discussing what instances evidence obtained during a search and seizure was legally obtained. In one of our examples, we had a case where a local police force was using a Drone (similar to the Predetor Drones you hear quite often on your news station) to search people's houses from the air via inferred vision. In this case the police found that a suspect was growing marijuana in his house and the search via the drone was enough for the police to get a search warrant, seize the pot, and arrest the suspect.

The main question that we disscused is...
 
"Whether or not the use of Drones in the air constituted a search."

If it was, then the marijuana would be thrown out, as the police used an illegal way to obtain evidence (fruit from the poisonous tree). Of course the class was divided as we couldn't come up with a clear cut answer. So I wished to ask this question to vizzed users...

What do you think of local and state police forces using Drones to search people's homes? Or the use of Drones' by local or state police forces in general?
I think this is kind of an issue that might become big in the future.

In my Law class we were discussing what instances evidence obtained during a search and seizure was legally obtained. In one of our examples, we had a case where a local police force was using a Drone (similar to the Predetor Drones you hear quite often on your news station) to search people's houses from the air via inferred vision. In this case the police found that a suspect was growing marijuana in his house and the search via the drone was enough for the police to get a search warrant, seize the pot, and arrest the suspect.

The main question that we disscused is...
 
"Whether or not the use of Drones in the air constituted a search."

If it was, then the marijuana would be thrown out, as the police used an illegal way to obtain evidence (fruit from the poisonous tree). Of course the class was divided as we couldn't come up with a clear cut answer. So I wished to ask this question to vizzed users...

What do you think of local and state police forces using Drones to search people's homes? Or the use of Drones' by local or state police forces in general?


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It reduces disruption and catches crominals, its a good thing. Id rather my innocence be stablished from the air than have officers searching my house. Waste of my time, waste of their time, and waste of tax money.
They do this in the uk, they fly a heat sensor over houses and look for obvious heat emmiters, indicating intetrnal plants. And they look at google streetview to get an impression of the house. Just by looking at the windows they can see if its actually being lived in, what the environment inside it is like, if its got unusual modifications, etc etc. They catch a lot of people that way.
It reduces disruption and catches crominals, its a good thing. Id rather my innocence be stablished from the air than have officers searching my house. Waste of my time, waste of their time, and waste of tax money.
They do this in the uk, they fly a heat sensor over houses and look for obvious heat emmiters, indicating intetrnal plants. And they look at google streetview to get an impression of the house. Just by looking at the windows they can see if its actually being lived in, what the environment inside it is like, if its got unusual modifications, etc etc. They catch a lot of people that way.


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"Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both"

Even if these are not Franklin's exact words, it sums up nicely why people should oppose drones and government surveillance. In the end, we become enslaved
"Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both"

Even if these are not Franklin's exact words, it sums up nicely why people should oppose drones and government surveillance. In the end, we become enslaved

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I'm with Janus on this one.  We have rights and the government doesn't have a right to spy on me, check up on what I'm doing, or peek in every now and then with technology to see what's happening in the confines of my home and property.  If they use drones to protect, say, the Superbowl or large events, that's fine.

Using drones over neighborhoods and private property is against the constitution and illegal.  If we let them do that, we'll lose our other rights.  It's the first step on a slippery slope.
I'm with Janus on this one.  We have rights and the government doesn't have a right to spy on me, check up on what I'm doing, or peek in every now and then with technology to see what's happening in the confines of my home and property.  If they use drones to protect, say, the Superbowl or large events, that's fine.

Using drones over neighborhoods and private property is against the constitution and illegal.  If we let them do that, we'll lose our other rights.  It's the first step on a slippery slope.


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