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12-04-12 09:31 AM
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http://www.examiner.com/article/dr-burzynski-free-to-continue-curing-cancer This may arguably be better suited under the "Debate" section, but I am posting this more to share the article and hear others' input on it rather than question and debate this outright. A quick summary is a doctor has used an unorthodox research to help cure cancer, but the medical board of Texas believed that it was unlawful or otherwise wrong for him to be using such a thing, so took the man to court multiple times, but never successfully stopping him. The article is a bit too subjective for me to COMPLETELY believe everything written there, but it would not surprise me that the government or its agencies would want to stop or slow cures from reaching the public so they can get more money. I just hope that these are actual, real cures and not just some fudged results or just lucky breaks. Does this seem believable to you guys? This may arguably be better suited under the "Debate" section, but I am posting this more to share the article and hear others' input on it rather than question and debate this outright. A quick summary is a doctor has used an unorthodox research to help cure cancer, but the medical board of Texas believed that it was unlawful or otherwise wrong for him to be using such a thing, so took the man to court multiple times, but never successfully stopping him. The article is a bit too subjective for me to COMPLETELY believe everything written there, but it would not surprise me that the government or its agencies would want to stop or slow cures from reaching the public so they can get more money. I just hope that these are actual, real cures and not just some fudged results or just lucky breaks. Does this seem believable to you guys? |
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12-04-12 10:19 AM
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I cant see much evidence of it.
Either way cancer has many treatments. Are there better ones? Probably, but rome wasnt built in a day. As for money, perhaps there are alternatives being ignored, but such is the plague of unrestricted capitalism Either way cancer has many treatments. Are there better ones? Probably, but rome wasnt built in a day. As for money, perhaps there are alternatives being ignored, but such is the plague of unrestricted capitalism |
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Well, I did a little more reading. Dr. Burzynski's treatment has no conclusive evidence to support it works. The Memorial Sloan-Kettering Cancer Center, a long-time leader in cancer treatment and therapy, says, "There is no clear evidence to support the anticancer effects of antineoplastins in humans." The FDA, which is tasted with protecting public health through regulations and supervision also issued a warning that suggests the research methods were unsafe in protecting human subjects. Burzynski's staff failed to minimize potential risks, failed to prepare written procedures, maintain records, or allow follow up research. And this 2009! In 1994 he was found guilty of insurance fraud. Earlier this year, 2012, he was sued by a former patient for swindling her out of $100,000 with fraudulent activity, misleading tactics, negligence, and so on. He's had patients die under his care and he's been the subject of several investigations by Texas medical boards and U.S. Federal regulations committees. Let's just say no one has proved he cures cancer. The article itself reads like an anarchist's rant, complaining about government and payments. Curing cancer would save the U.S. Federal government a TON of money. They'd be happy to have treatments available so people can live longer, healthier lives and get taxed longer. Payments from the government to medical expenses would be chopped and costs would go down. For the love of God, give me a reason why the government wouldn't want a cure for cancer? It'd save them billions. Also, unrestricted capitalism is wonderful. Well, I did a little more reading. Dr. Burzynski's treatment has no conclusive evidence to support it works. The Memorial Sloan-Kettering Cancer Center, a long-time leader in cancer treatment and therapy, says, "There is no clear evidence to support the anticancer effects of antineoplastins in humans." The FDA, which is tasted with protecting public health through regulations and supervision also issued a warning that suggests the research methods were unsafe in protecting human subjects. Burzynski's staff failed to minimize potential risks, failed to prepare written procedures, maintain records, or allow follow up research. And this 2009! In 1994 he was found guilty of insurance fraud. Earlier this year, 2012, he was sued by a former patient for swindling her out of $100,000 with fraudulent activity, misleading tactics, negligence, and so on. He's had patients die under his care and he's been the subject of several investigations by Texas medical boards and U.S. Federal regulations committees. Let's just say no one has proved he cures cancer. The article itself reads like an anarchist's rant, complaining about government and payments. Curing cancer would save the U.S. Federal government a TON of money. They'd be happy to have treatments available so people can live longer, healthier lives and get taxed longer. Payments from the government to medical expenses would be chopped and costs would go down. For the love of God, give me a reason why the government wouldn't want a cure for cancer? It'd save them billions. Also, unrestricted capitalism is wonderful. |
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warmaker : Correct. His "antineoplaston" therapy has never been published in the scientific literature, and its results have never been successfully replicated. In a controlled trial, his treatment was an abject failure. For example: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burzynski_Clinic#Phase_II_trials Just because a patient here and there gets better does not mean the treatment had anything to do with it. Significant, replicable results are needed, and he has nothing resembling that.. Sounds like a fraud to me. Just because a patient here and there gets better does not mean the treatment had anything to do with it. Significant, replicable results are needed, and he has nothing resembling that.. Sounds like a fraud to me. |
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ruesen : I recently watched the Burzynski documentary on Netflix. I have researched the concept of natural cures for a couple of years on and off and I am firmly convinced that there is something going on to keep cures from being released to the general populous and such. I have also read the book called “Natural cures “They†don’t want you to know about… by Kevin Trudeau. In regard to Burzynski I was turned on to the documentary by one of my sisters. She was diagnosed with stage four breast cancer four years ago. She has also dealt with a form of bone cancer and at least two other things which I can’t remember off hand due to the chemo and radiation she’s had to deal with. Having a background as a writer who is somewhat familiar with media and knowing my interest in conspiracy theories she told me to watch this documentary.
I watched the documentary on Thanksgiving and I will tell you I was legitimately mad after the first five minutes of the documentary. The documentary opens with this gentleman who was testifying before a congressional committee regarding Burzynski and he had one of the most heartbreaking stories I have ever heard concerning one of his daughters who was diagnosed at I believe age four with a form a brain cancer and was basically given a death sentence and was told you can basically take her home and let her die or try chemo and radiation and at most it would prolong her life. I don’t remember how long they had told this man how long his daughter would have but she survived the timeframe and was then brought to Dr. Burzynski and was cured of her cancer in I believe six months. Sadly his daughter would die a few years later due to affects from previous radiation treatments prior to her treatments under Dr. Burzynski. The main thing that got me fuming was this man had her sister next to him I believe they were twins and he said that the official cause of death was not brain cancer but rather I believe radiation poisoning. He went on to say her brain fell apart because of the radiation. As I was watching this I became angrier and angrier as I heard all the stories from various patients and such and being given no hope by those in mainstream medicine but being indisputably cured by Dr. Burzynski. It enraged me further when I heard how the medical boards and even congressional boards are trying to do everything in their power to stop this man who I would call a hero from curing people. In the words of Jesse Ventura “Follow the money.†I consider it a miracle by the grace of God that my sister is still with us and is still fighting. Had I known about Dr. Burzynski years ago I would have tried to do what I could to at least give her the information. I do also believe that it doesn’t end with Cancer. I believe as Kevin Trudeau does that there are cures to just about anything. The problem is that was argued in both Trudeau’s book and in the Burzynski' documentary is that most if not all pharmaceutical companies are publicly traded corporations so it isn’t in their best interest to release the information and cures because simply put if no one is sick, their out of business. It is rally disturbing to see politicians also do nothing but allow this because of special interests and such. It’s terrible and it really bothers me. I was also sick in 2005 with what amounted to high blood pressure. Once I was finally convinced to go to a doctor by my family, (Doesn’t like or trust doctors in general stuff like what Trudeau and Burzynski have said is a perfect example why…) I was given a drug which I can’t remember the name of off hand. This drug did kind of relieve my problem and did have some initial benefits however, I had some side effects from the drug that I still deal with. Despite changing doctors and going back to my longtime primary doctor I still have some side effects but no longer am considered to have high blood pressure. Quite frankly I thought that there was something far more serious wrong with me at the time and I did have and still deal with anxiety from time to time. I do believe that the side effects that most people experience regardless of what they are dealing with are caused by toxic chemicals in the drugs. This is one reason why I really appreciate what Dr. Burzynski is doing to help people. This is what a doctor is suppose to do. It troubles me however to know that there are those in positions of power in this world who would rather profit off of the sick and suffering rather than do something great for humanity. Special interests groups are also a main contributing determent to all of that. I believe if the general populous was made aware of all of the above in a mass setting that things might drastically change. I consider Dr. Burzynski a hero and will be a supporter going forward. I watched the documentary on Thanksgiving and I will tell you I was legitimately mad after the first five minutes of the documentary. The documentary opens with this gentleman who was testifying before a congressional committee regarding Burzynski and he had one of the most heartbreaking stories I have ever heard concerning one of his daughters who was diagnosed at I believe age four with a form a brain cancer and was basically given a death sentence and was told you can basically take her home and let her die or try chemo and radiation and at most it would prolong her life. I don’t remember how long they had told this man how long his daughter would have but she survived the timeframe and was then brought to Dr. Burzynski and was cured of her cancer in I believe six months. Sadly his daughter would die a few years later due to affects from previous radiation treatments prior to her treatments under Dr. Burzynski. The main thing that got me fuming was this man had her sister next to him I believe they were twins and he said that the official cause of death was not brain cancer but rather I believe radiation poisoning. He went on to say her brain fell apart because of the radiation. As I was watching this I became angrier and angrier as I heard all the stories from various patients and such and being given no hope by those in mainstream medicine but being indisputably cured by Dr. Burzynski. It enraged me further when I heard how the medical boards and even congressional boards are trying to do everything in their power to stop this man who I would call a hero from curing people. In the words of Jesse Ventura “Follow the money.†I consider it a miracle by the grace of God that my sister is still with us and is still fighting. Had I known about Dr. Burzynski years ago I would have tried to do what I could to at least give her the information. I do also believe that it doesn’t end with Cancer. I believe as Kevin Trudeau does that there are cures to just about anything. The problem is that was argued in both Trudeau’s book and in the Burzynski' documentary is that most if not all pharmaceutical companies are publicly traded corporations so it isn’t in their best interest to release the information and cures because simply put if no one is sick, their out of business. It is rally disturbing to see politicians also do nothing but allow this because of special interests and such. It’s terrible and it really bothers me. I was also sick in 2005 with what amounted to high blood pressure. Once I was finally convinced to go to a doctor by my family, (Doesn’t like or trust doctors in general stuff like what Trudeau and Burzynski have said is a perfect example why…) I was given a drug which I can’t remember the name of off hand. This drug did kind of relieve my problem and did have some initial benefits however, I had some side effects from the drug that I still deal with. Despite changing doctors and going back to my longtime primary doctor I still have some side effects but no longer am considered to have high blood pressure. Quite frankly I thought that there was something far more serious wrong with me at the time and I did have and still deal with anxiety from time to time. I do believe that the side effects that most people experience regardless of what they are dealing with are caused by toxic chemicals in the drugs. This is one reason why I really appreciate what Dr. Burzynski is doing to help people. This is what a doctor is suppose to do. It troubles me however to know that there are those in positions of power in this world who would rather profit off of the sick and suffering rather than do something great for humanity. Special interests groups are also a main contributing determent to all of that. I believe if the general populous was made aware of all of the above in a mass setting that things might drastically change. 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thenumberone : Trust me when I tell you if you watch the documentary you’ll see all the evidence you need. I make no bones about the fact that I am a conspiracy theorist and my natural instinct is to be skeptical at first but this guy has worked miracles. There is going to be a part two to his documentary released next year. I highly recommend to everyone to either watch Burzynski either via Netflix or by buying the DVD. It’s one of the best documentaries I’ve seen on the repression of cures by the medical establishment and I believe all should watch it. Remember knowledge is power.
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bvd1022 : A documentary is just somebody's opinion. Obviously Burzynski is going to try to make himself look good in his own documentary. If Burzynski's method is so wonderful, he can demonstrate it in the one place it can be evaluated properly: a peer-revied scientific journal. Unfortunately, the only controlled study that was attempted on his method failed miserably when his patients all died. A true sceptic is someone who searches for evidence, not someone who believes people implicitly. |
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Traduweise : Burzynski provided medical documentation; patient records etc, Patient testimony both for the documentary and actual testimony before the FDA and congressional hearings; thus proving his case. He also proved how those in the medical establishment tried to have him thrown in jail in order to get their hands on his patented treatments, even going as far as to put another doctor’s name on his research and documents, Plagiarism… He also provided documentation from those in the medical establishment threatening him and such as well as his replies. This article is not the first court case Burzynski has won against the medical establishment. He’s been fighting the same people over and over again for over 25 years if not longer. If he wasn’t legitimate he would have been put in jail a long time ago. The reason those in the establishment want him out is because they can’t profit off of what he’s doing. This isn’t like one of those infomercials with before and after photos Burzynski proved his case.
The reason why it isn’t widely published as it should be in any medical journal or newspaper is because the establishment does everything it can to keep people like Burzynski quiet. Kevin Trudeau is another one who has been a target of the medical establishment because he’s basically been a whistle blower and such. Another site that I’ve used in my research regarding natural cures is curezone.com. I found a lot of useful information on that site years ago especially in the discussion forums which is not unlike what we have here on Vizzed. I was skeptical when I first started reading up on natural cures and how information is suppressed years ago I will freely admit that. It’s sad that people really don’t start researching stuff like this until they are in need of answers or a direction of where to go. I know that I am guilty of that. One thing I learned though after becoming more informed about things like this is if you do the math something doesn’t add up. When I say something doesn’t add up I am referring to the medical establishment and the slew of charities out there that take in thousands if not millions of dollars a year for research yet there remains no solid cures released to the general populous yet those who are actually curing people of disease have to fight tooth and nail to get their information made public. Burzynski isn’t the first and I sadly don’t think he’ll be the last. From where I sit we should have been well on our way to curing disease long before 2012. The fact that men like Burzynski still have to fight tooth and nail for everything they work for to become known to the public and for people to die from diseases that could be prevented and cured is unacceptable. Think about it. Several congressional investigations, several lawsuits, a criminal case etc. If Burzynski wasn’t legitimate in what he was doing it wouldn’t take those in positions of power almost 30 years, (that I know of) to get rid of him. No jury in their right mind would ever convict a doctor for doing what a doctor is supposed to do heal the sick. Also keep in mind that Burzynski can only run his treatments via clinical trials so it’s not like he has boat loads of cash to fund thirty years worth of legal defenses. Watch the documentary and tell me what you think I’d like to keep the discussion going. The reason why it isn’t widely published as it should be in any medical journal or newspaper is because the establishment does everything it can to keep people like Burzynski quiet. Kevin Trudeau is another one who has been a target of the medical establishment because he’s basically been a whistle blower and such. Another site that I’ve used in my research regarding natural cures is curezone.com. I found a lot of useful information on that site years ago especially in the discussion forums which is not unlike what we have here on Vizzed. I was skeptical when I first started reading up on natural cures and how information is suppressed years ago I will freely admit that. It’s sad that people really don’t start researching stuff like this until they are in need of answers or a direction of where to go. I know that I am guilty of that. One thing I learned though after becoming more informed about things like this is if you do the math something doesn’t add up. When I say something doesn’t add up I am referring to the medical establishment and the slew of charities out there that take in thousands if not millions of dollars a year for research yet there remains no solid cures released to the general populous yet those who are actually curing people of disease have to fight tooth and nail to get their information made public. Burzynski isn’t the first and I sadly don’t think he’ll be the last. From where I sit we should have been well on our way to curing disease long before 2012. The fact that men like Burzynski still have to fight tooth and nail for everything they work for to become known to the public and for people to die from diseases that could be prevented and cured is unacceptable. Think about it. Several congressional investigations, several lawsuits, a criminal case etc. If Burzynski wasn’t legitimate in what he was doing it wouldn’t take those in positions of power almost 30 years, (that I know of) to get rid of him. No jury in their right mind would ever convict a doctor for doing what a doctor is supposed to do heal the sick. Also keep in mind that Burzynski can only run his treatments via clinical trials so it’s not like he has boat loads of cash to fund thirty years worth of legal defenses. Watch the documentary and tell me what you think I’d like to keep the discussion going. |
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bvd1022 : Patient records are anecdotal evidence, and anicdotal evidence is meaningless. Anyone who has been to medical school knows that just because a patient improves does not mean the treatment is necessarily responsible. Doctors are not all-knowing, and in the cases of serious illness, like cancer, there are always a few instances where the outcome goes against the usual prognosis. Burzynski is a trained professional, and he knows this. He also knows full well that if he wants to demonstrate his method's effectiveness, he needs to publish significant results in a peer-reviewed journal. You can complain all you want about the "establishment" keeping him down (even though the government has no authority in the scientific literature), but the fact is that whenever someone tries his methods out, even when following his guidelines, they fail. I pointed this out in the link earlier (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burzynski_Clinic#Phase_II_trials). I don't care what congressional investigations or criminal lawyers say. If he wants his treatment to be taken seriously, there is a way to do that. If he genuinely believed in his treatment, he would have at least tried to publish a controlled study in a peer-reviewed journal. But he hasn't. Instead, he makes silly documentaries, and shows off patient records because that's all he's got. And it doesn't mean a thing. It isn't that the scientific community is repressing him, it's that, after all these years, he still hasn't demonstrated anything significant. It's up to him to give us solid evidence, not us to watch his Youtube documentary. I don't care what congressional investigations or criminal lawyers say. If he wants his treatment to be taken seriously, there is a way to do that. If he genuinely believed in his treatment, he would have at least tried to publish a controlled study in a peer-reviewed journal. But he hasn't. Instead, he makes silly documentaries, and shows off patient records because that's all he's got. And it doesn't mean a thing. It isn't that the scientific community is repressing him, it's that, after all these years, he still hasn't demonstrated anything significant. It's up to him to give us solid evidence, not us to watch his Youtube documentary. |
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Traduweise : If you watch the documentary he shows that he did try and still does try to publish his findings and to get his treatments pushed through and distributed with pharmaceutical companies. Big Pharma has a lip lock on him and a lot of other guys who are trying to do the same thing Burzynski is doing. Burzynski isn’t the only one out there who is fighting against the medical establishment. You may not care what congressional hearings or what criminal lawyers have to say but facts are facts. If Burzynski was in any way in the wrong for what he is doing he would have been locked up years ago. As far as medical records being anecdotal Buzynski showed the comparisons both before and after treatment for his patients. They are legitimate because A most if not all the patients that testified on his behalf would have died and B the falsifying of medical records is a felony. Like I said he would have been put in jail long ago if he wasn’t on the up and up.
I saw a video the other day online about another doctor based out of Canada fighting the same fight in regard to his treatments I recommend watching it. http://youtu.be/pbxArVCsKho I respect your opinion but based on what I’ve seen and read over the years I have to disagree with you. Please watch this video and please watch the documentary. I saw a video the other day online about another doctor based out of Canada fighting the same fight in regard to his treatments I recommend watching it. http://youtu.be/pbxArVCsKho I respect your opinion but based on what I’ve seen and read over the years I have to disagree with you. Please watch this video and please watch the documentary. |
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bvd1022 : It's not news that pharmaceutical companies care about money first. But that has nothing to do with whether or not the treatment works. I'm not watching the documentary because I have no interest in spending a couple hours watching something so meaningless. Buzynski can say whatever he wants in his movies; he still hasn't published anything of note in the peer-reviewed literature. And if he tried and failed, that says volumes about his integrity as a researcher. |
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Traduweise : Again I respect your opinion but I disagree. It’s not meaningless when you or someone close to you is fighting a deadly disease and isn’t given adequate information. I have lost some members of my family to cancer and as I said my sister has been fighting breast cancer for four years and has had a couple of close calls. I wouldn’t wish it on anyone. It’s a cause very close to my heart it’s not meaningless my friend. Far as the science your right Big Pharma doesn’t have much say there but the problem is Big Pharma and those entities that work with Big Pharma has the influence to keep those breakthroughs from being widely published. If they can’t make a profit things like what these people are doing are harder and harder to find. It also doesn’t help when those doctors that do find the breakthroughs need funding to distribute the treatments etc. That’s where Big Pharma has their power. It’s sad but it’s reality.
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