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12-29-04 12:02 PM
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Here is my theory on religion. I will use Christianity as an example.

Let’s say you don’t believe in god and he doesn't exist. You loose nothing.

Let’s say you believe in god and he does exist. Look at what you gain: riches in the after life beyond your wildest dreams (I’m not talking about material items).

But let’s say you don’t believe in god and he does exist. Look at what you have lost. You now spend eternity in hell. Pretty sad, because you've lost out on everything.

On the other hand let’s say you do believe in god and he doesn't exist. Look what you have lost, nothing. You've lived a nice peaceful life. You have nothing to regret.

And if nothing else the bible should be used as a standard for society. Something we can all hope to achieve. Peace and love. Its something we can all shoot for.

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Here is my theory on religion. I will use Christianity as an example.

Let’s say you don’t believe in god and he doesn't exist. You loose nothing.

Let’s say you believe in god and he does exist. Look at what you gain: riches in the after life beyond your wildest dreams (I’m not talking about material items).

But let’s say you don’t believe in god and he does exist. Look at what you have lost. You now spend eternity in hell. Pretty sad, because you've lost out on everything.

On the other hand let’s say you do believe in god and he doesn't exist. Look what you have lost, nothing. You've lived a nice peaceful life. You have nothing to regret.

And if nothing else the bible should be used as a standard for society. Something we can all hope to achieve. Peace and love. Its something we can all shoot for.

Thank you for your time, give me some feed back.

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I dunno. I guess I find it hard to believe in the Bible because all it sounds like is an overzealous fairy tale to me. =/

It's nicer for me to know that my gods are real, and materialistic as well, and to know that when I die, I'll be reincarnated, and my physical body will go back into the Earth, and feeding another cause.
I dunno. I guess I find it hard to believe in the Bible because all it sounds like is an overzealous fairy tale to me. =/

It's nicer for me to know that my gods are real, and materialistic as well, and to know that when I die, I'll be reincarnated, and my physical body will go back into the Earth, and feeding another cause.


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Hey John... you make sense, and I'm writting a big thing on why belive in the Bible so people who don't might undertsand it's not just some exagerated fary tales, not that I'll be forcing anyone or anything.
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Hey John... you make sense, and I'm writting a big thing on why belive in the Bible so people who don't might undertsand it's not just some exagerated fary tales, not that I'll be forcing anyone or anything.

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The Bible isn't all happy go lucky sunshine and farts.

It's about ruthless justice by any means, and that's not something I'm for.

But, I don't believe in god by any means and I wouldn't want "his" book ruling my life.

I think religion shouldn't even come into practice in politics.
The Bible isn't all happy go lucky sunshine and farts.

It's about ruthless justice by any means, and that's not something I'm for.

But, I don't believe in god by any means and I wouldn't want "his" book ruling my life.

I think religion shouldn't even come into practice in politics.

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I mean just listen to what i said. What if it is real, look what you loose. And it wouldn't hurt living a peacefull good life, would it?




I mean just listen to what i said. What if it is real, look what you loose. And it wouldn't hurt living a peacefull good life, would it?

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I allready live a peaceful and good life. =)

And I'm not worried about the bible being real.

Different strokes for different folks.. It makes the world go 'round.
I allready live a peaceful and good life. =)

And I'm not worried about the bible being real.

Different strokes for different folks.. It makes the world go 'round.

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Originally posted by Jin
I allready live a peaceful and good life. =)

And I'm not worried about the bible being real.

Different strokes for different folks.. It makes the world go 'round.

I respect your views, but blind faith is an awsome thing....




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I allready live a peaceful and good life. =)

And I'm not worried about the bible being real.

Different strokes for different folks.. It makes the world go 'round.

I respect your views, but blind faith is an awsome thing....

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I've tried to believe in god, I remember when I was 13 praying to believe in god..

It's not that I haven't tried.. I just can't.
I've tried to believe in god, I remember when I was 13 praying to believe in god..

It's not that I haven't tried.. I just can't.

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I tried when I was 15. That didn't turn out so well... I figured that I don't want to act like my INSANE aunt who thinks Harry Potter is the devil.
I tried when I was 15. That didn't turn out so well... I figured that I don't want to act like my INSANE aunt who thinks Harry Potter is the devil.


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Yeah my friend's mom's feel the same way..

I remember a good while back bringing a harry potter book to my christian school and getting into trouble.
Yeah my friend's mom's feel the same way..

I remember a good while back bringing a harry potter book to my christian school and getting into trouble.

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Originally posted by Jin
I've tried to believe in god, I remember when I was 13 praying to believe in god..

It's not that I haven't tried.. I just can't.


I used to believe in God (even though my mom is atheist, and I think my dad is agnostic or something), but I was like 5 at this point in time... Somewhere shortly after that I stopped believing in God, and Santa Claus, and the Easter Bunny.

Not trying to offend anyone, but I didn't view God as being any different from the latter two... For me to start believing in God now would be like for an adult to start believing in Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny; I just don't find Him realistic.





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I've tried to believe in god, I remember when I was 13 praying to believe in god..

It's not that I haven't tried.. I just can't.


I used to believe in God (even though my mom is atheist, and I think my dad is agnostic or something), but I was like 5 at this point in time... Somewhere shortly after that I stopped believing in God, and Santa Claus, and the Easter Bunny.

Not trying to offend anyone, but I didn't view God as being any different from the latter two... For me to start believing in God now would be like for an adult to start believing in Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny; I just don't find Him realistic.






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I know what you mean man, I used to believe in god as well.

I just sorta lost it.. and I wanted it back so badly..
It's what my mom believed in and there was nothing I wanted more than to my mom happy, ya know?
I know what you mean man, I used to believe in god as well.

I just sorta lost it.. and I wanted it back so badly..
It's what my mom believed in and there was nothing I wanted more than to my mom happy, ya know?

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You have all missed my point. And here was my point(for those who missed it)...

Would it really hurt to believe in god and follow some of the major parts of the bible?




You have all missed my point. And here was my point(for those who missed it)...

Would it really hurt to believe in god and follow some of the major parts of the bible?

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John, As I've said. I -can't- believe in god, and I -can't- follow the bible.

While I think the parts about jesus doing good things was a good example of how we live our lives. Most christians who believe in all of that stuff don't follow those examples.
John, As I've said. I -can't- believe in god, and I -can't- follow the bible.

While I think the parts about jesus doing good things was a good example of how we live our lives. Most christians who believe in all of that stuff don't follow those examples.

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Well here i will say what mike says. I dont believe in him, but i have faith. I can't believe in something i can't see or tuch. But i have faith in god.




Well here i will say what mike says. I dont believe in him, but i have faith. I can't believe in something i can't see or tuch. But i have faith in god.

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I guess that's what makes us different.
I guess that's what makes us different.

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Originally posted by John
You have all missed my point. And here was my point(for those who missed it)...

Would it really hurt to believe in god and follow some of the major parts of the bible?


I know what you meant, and sorry for going off on a tangent. I guess it's more of a

"I don't -want- to believe in your God."

Type of thing. I would feel like I'm missing out on my magick and getting stronger with it. Magick is too fascinating to give up for something I don't know exsists.
Originally posted by John
You have all missed my point. And here was my point(for those who missed it)...

Would it really hurt to believe in god and follow some of the major parts of the bible?


I know what you meant, and sorry for going off on a tangent. I guess it's more of a

"I don't -want- to believe in your God."

Type of thing. I would feel like I'm missing out on my magick and getting stronger with it. Magick is too fascinating to give up for something I don't know exsists.


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Ok John you make sense as I have said, but you can't just dicide to belive in God like that, it has to come from the hart, just "fake" beliving in him to be saved wont do you much good, he wants you to WANT to love him with your whole soul mind and strengh (Mark 12:30) And I don't belive in blind faith.
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Ok John you make sense as I have said, but you can't just dicide to belive in God like that, it has to come from the hart, just "fake" beliving in him to be saved wont do you much good, he wants you to WANT to love him with your whole soul mind and strengh (Mark 12:30) And I don't belive in blind faith.

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No, i believe in his from the heart. If you couldn't tell, i was attempting to convert some people.




No, i believe in his from the heart. If you couldn't tell, i was attempting to convert some people.

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I just dont like that he rules with a dictatorship...

Where have all the puppies gone to?





I just dont like that he rules with a dictatorship...

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