Is that what you religion believes? Interesting.

Most Christian based religions I've been around believe once you're "saved" you can't go to hell reguardless of what happens from that point on.

Show me some scriptures or something here.

I didn't say it was in the bible now did I? I said I was basing that on, And I'm quoting myself here.

"Christian based religions."

Mainly Baptist, If your religion is different then I guess you have a right to believe you'll go to hell. I just originally thought that your religion believed in essentially the same thing as most Christian based religions I had been around most of my life.

Well christianity is based off the bible. I dont think your argument has a basis.

My argument does, Baptists don't though.


My argument is their beliefs not my own.

Originally posted by Jin

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My argument does, Baptists don't though.


My argument is their beliefs not my own.

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You haven't showed me their beliefs!..... thats what i was asking for. Some referance from the bible.

Why don't you pull it out of your ass then, John, since you know -everything- about the bible. You two need to stop instigating and get over that you believe in two different things. Stop bringing religion into everything. Don't you have your -own- morals, rather than what a book says? There's more to life than religion.

Ohhhhh John just got rocked by Bell! ShaZamm! John you just got worked over! Johns crying now HA HA!

7th grade a kid at my school commited suicide and a few weeks ago my cousins friend did. Personally suicide is for idiots who are stupid and obviously are trying to take the easy / gay / dumb / retard / evertyhing bad you can say way out... I dont care how bad your life ways..there are numerous ways to fix it..selfish noobs

You see Belial if you would have been reading the thread you would have discovered that jin was trying to say untrue things and tie them into christianity. If he would like to say these things all i asked was for him to back them up a little bit. And James why must you make random and vulgar remarks?

PS - It is a mortal sin to kill yourself and you WILL go to hell for it..whoever says that isnt true is an idiot and thus should stop wasting our time with such false comments...ive gone through 10 years of religion class and I am a confirmed catholic so eat it.

John you're being a f***ing artard.

Doesn't it say in the bible that jesus said all that believe in him should enter the kingdom of god, aka heaven? John 3:16 - The verse they shove down little kid's throats at Sunday school..

That's most Baptist's proof of the whole being saved thing. And I'm not backing up their beliefs by any means. I'm just basing my argument on the fact that's what they believe. Based on the bible or not. I don't give a damn either way because I don't believe in god or the bible so really it makes no difference to me.

Originally posted by John

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You see Belial if you would have been reading the thread you would have discovered that jin was trying to say untrue things and tie them into christianity. If he would like to say these things all i asked was for him to back them up a little bit. And James why must you make random and vulgar remarks?

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Don't assume that I don't read what is said. Why don't you research it yourself, since you're the only one concerned about it.

Suicide is for losers end of story...stop arguing over stupid crap that nobody cares about..I repeat suicide is for losers and for whom ever suicide has crossed your mind..you shulda done it and saved us alot of time by not posting here..

Most suicidal people suffer from clynical depression which is caused by a chemical imbalance in the head.

Heh.

Well then its obvious they're not meant to live and shuld save us alot of time and bulls***

You live in your own little world don't you?

Yea, its a pretty cool one at that..

Okay, just my little question for all of you: How old are you, 12?! Quit bickering about the Bible and stay on topic!

Okay, my own personal thoughts on suicide:

I used to be suicidal when I was in my early teens. I tried to poison myself, but it didn't work. By age 14 I just came to the conclusion that I could not die.

My boyfriend came close to commiting suicide a few months before we started dating, but he said he saw my face in his mind and he just couldn't do it, so yeah, I saved a life technically.

My neighbor killed himself like 5 years ago, I saw how it tore the family up... it was really sad to watch. Kinda another reason why I gave up trying, I don't want to do that to my loved ones.

Personally, I think that those who are suicidal are making a cry for help. Some, like 50% just want attention, but the others I think really want help and need it.

Hey elara if you would have read the thread you would have known that we were talking about it because it is a sin to kill yourself.

And people who want to kill them selfs are stupid. Oh boo hoo i'm going to kill my self. I dont care about anyone else. I'm just going to take my life and make everyone that cares about me feel like s***. They are all going to cry and cry. And i dont care cuz i have my head shooved so far up my ass that i can't see that life isn't bad at all. Its just fine, i only want to make it seem bad.

Ta da... a mind of a suicidalist.