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Good idea, Mike. I'll do that.
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OK, awesome news on Claado.
Stoney, I'll PM David right away. And I'm 22. My first encounter with Chrono Trigger: When I was 11, I originally got wind of the game from Gamepro Magazine (they had a walkthrough in one issue from the start up until the battle with Magus), but I wasn't really that interested. I saw Akira Toriyama's concept art of Marle though, along with her sprite, and thought she was hot. A few months later, I was at Blockbuster looking for something to rent, and the game I had in mind was out of stock. I scanned the shelves and found Chrono Trigger, and remembered seeing the art of Marle. So I rented the game. Yup, I got into Chrono Trigger because Marle was hot! I quickly found a new interest, though... Schala. Don't know what it was about her, because I'm not really attracted to unnatural hair colors... Must have been the bells in her music... I guess they...cast a spell that makes you fall in love with the next thing you see. Anyway, I was your typical Chrono fan after that, and have always had *VERY* specific ideas of what I would do if I had been in the creative driver's seat designing Chrono Trigger. That's pretty much what got me started writing, which I've been doing ever since and am STILL working on my first book. (It's huge.) The numerous endings also had a part to play in driving my creativity and imagination. In that way, Chrono Trigger gave something to me and so now I'd like to give something back. I know all that is too long to use, but it at least gives you the idea and you can take a few quotes from it if you like. About Nathan: BAD news. His freaking system crashed. Don't even ask about completion dates. That subject is off the table. Please don't roast him... But also, he lost his address book too. So Stoney, if you'd just send him a quick email so he can get your email address again... I know he'd appreciate it. Which reminds me...he told me to do the same thing. I'm gonna go email him. Stoney, I'll PM David right away. And I'm 22. My first encounter with Chrono Trigger: When I was 11, I originally got wind of the game from Gamepro Magazine (they had a walkthrough in one issue from the start up until the battle with Magus), but I wasn't really that interested. I saw Akira Toriyama's concept art of Marle though, along with her sprite, and thought she was hot. A few months later, I was at Blockbuster looking for something to rent, and the game I had in mind was out of stock. I scanned the shelves and found Chrono Trigger, and remembered seeing the art of Marle. So I rented the game. Yup, I got into Chrono Trigger because Marle was hot! I quickly found a new interest, though... Schala. Don't know what it was about her, because I'm not really attracted to unnatural hair colors... Must have been the bells in her music... I guess they...cast a spell that makes you fall in love with the next thing you see. Anyway, I was your typical Chrono fan after that, and have always had *VERY* specific ideas of what I would do if I had been in the creative driver's seat designing Chrono Trigger. That's pretty much what got me started writing, which I've been doing ever since and am STILL working on my first book. (It's huge.) The numerous endings also had a part to play in driving my creativity and imagination. In that way, Chrono Trigger gave something to me and so now I'd like to give something back. I know all that is too long to use, but it at least gives you the idea and you can take a few quotes from it if you like. About Nathan: BAD news. His freaking system crashed. Don't even ask about completion dates. That subject is off the table. Please don't roast him... But also, he lost his address book too. So Stoney, if you'd just send him a quick email so he can get your email address again... I know he'd appreciate it. Which reminds me...he told me to do the same thing. I'm gonna go email him. |
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I'll use your age, and maybe make fun of you for getting into the game because you thought Marle was hot. This isn't an interview, the readers wont be curious about the life stories of the staff (no offense Jake). The purpose of the article is to keep the readers interested through all the information about our petition. If we do that, we'll get people visiting. If we bore them, they'll move on to another article and may never visit our site.
You guys understand my reasoning for writing this concisely? You guys understand my reasoning for writing this concisely? |
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Yeah, I can host the Chrono Symphonic's site. Also, I can make sub-domains, maybe make somethin like www.ctrforum.vizzed.com which would direct a person right to the remake forum, might be easier to type that out rather than that other url. |
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...You know Jake, I can't really say I'm surprised by what interested you in CT. That sounds like something I could expect from you.
...and soon we'll find out he is an avid fan of Metroid, FF10, FFX-2, and every other game on the market having "hot" female characters. Hehe... don't mind being too blunt in your criticism, eh Stoney? If I had to make one criticism, it would be that it is too long. What I did when writing my article was pretty much just look over other slashdot articles... and then attempted to match the format as best I could. Anyway, I don't really mind if Stoney's article is used, so feel free to play around with that one if you want Props. ...and soon we'll find out he is an avid fan of Metroid, FF10, FFX-2, and every other game on the market having "hot" female characters. Hehe... don't mind being too blunt in your criticism, eh Stoney? If I had to make one criticism, it would be that it is too long. What I did when writing my article was pretty much just look over other slashdot articles... and then attempted to match the format as best I could. Anyway, I don't really mind if Stoney's article is used, so feel free to play around with that one if you want Props. |
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I've decided to merge the two. Stoney's is too long. Also, I told Joystiq what we're up to, they might contact me about writing an article for them.
EDIT: Ok, Joystiq acted faster than I thought, and mentioned us in an article about the late remake project. http://www.joystiq.com/entry/1234000567072264/ Not the coverage I was hoping for, but let's hope it'll get us some signatures. EDIT: Ok, Joystiq acted faster than I thought, and mentioned us in an article about the late remake project. http://www.joystiq.com/entry/1234000567072264/ Not the coverage I was hoping for, but let's hope it'll get us some signatures. |
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It was nice of them to mention us, so that's good.
Dave, I like your sub-domains idea. How can we get it done? www.ChronoSymphonic.Vizzed.com for Symphonic www.CTRemake.Vizzed.com for us www.CTRemakeForum.Vizzed.com (maybe?) for the forum. If any of y'all wanna suggest changes to that, fire away. And Apoc...ya got me. I like FFX and FFX-2 (although against your expectations I *HATE* Tomb Raider), and perhaps even rivaling with Chrono Trigger, I absolutely love, love, LOVE Metroid. Now if only they'd do one of the 3D ones in 3rd-person. But alas, it looks like Prime 3 will also be first-person. Still, I'm sure it'll be great, being on Revolution and all. Dave, I like your sub-domains idea. How can we get it done? www.ChronoSymphonic.Vizzed.com for Symphonic www.CTRemake.Vizzed.com for us www.CTRemakeForum.Vizzed.com (maybe?) for the forum. If any of y'all wanna suggest changes to that, fire away. And Apoc...ya got me. I like FFX and FFX-2 (although against your expectations I *HATE* Tomb Raider), and perhaps even rivaling with Chrono Trigger, I absolutely love, love, LOVE Metroid. Now if only they'd do one of the 3D ones in 3rd-person. But alas, it looks like Prime 3 will also be first-person. Still, I'm sure it'll be great, being on Revolution and all. |
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Her body is covered in opaque, environmentally resistant metal that arm cannon blasts barely phase. How would third person view be any more exciting for you?
Oh by the way, I was thinking and we might want to hold off on the Slashdot article for a little while, maybe just till we get a couple hundred signatures. I'm afraid that, even if everyone who reads the article looks at the site, if they don't see any signatures recorded they'll think it's a lost cause and we'll lose potential signatures we may have been able to get later. I think if they visit the site and see that things are going well, however, they'll be more likely to contribute. What do you guys think? Oh by the way, I was thinking and we might want to hold off on the Slashdot article for a little while, maybe just till we get a couple hundred signatures. I'm afraid that, even if everyone who reads the article looks at the site, if they don't see any signatures recorded they'll think it's a lost cause and we'll lose potential signatures we may have been able to get later. I think if they visit the site and see that things are going well, however, they'll be more likely to contribute. What do you guys think? |
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I can see your point, but I don't know how easy a couple hundred will be easy to get. We'll just have to see how it goes I think. Great mention in Joystiq though. |
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Originally posted by Jake-A-Roonie I am SO using that quote. The “Chrono Trigger Remake Petition Groupâ€, as they call themselves, is headed by an energetic 22-year-old lad named Jacob Kuntzman. "I got into Chrono Trigger because Marle was hot," he recalls. When a friend of his jokingly proposed that they create a petition for a remake of the game, Jacob took him seriously and soon began the arduous process of gathering support for the endeavor. One phone call later, he had established contact with Square-Enix of America. About Nathan... *suddenly horrified* You mean to tell me that all the errors on the site, like the "Name" thing and the "Privacy Policy", will never get fixed...ever? You sure his system actually crashed, and he's not making up an excuse? I'm really sorry, but after what Apoc said about lazy programmers, I just can't help but be suspicious. ...By the way, how did he send you an email to tell you about the system crash if he lost his address book and your address? Groovy, David. Could you please PM me your contact information so I can give it to Claado? BTW Jake, I meant to tell you earlier...I emailed you fixed versions of all the petitions, including the extra ones for the staff. I think you should create a "Staff Downloads" thread in this forum so we can archive those downloads (and so Michael, Prop and Apoc can download the fixed versions). EDIT: You know what we should've done? We should've placed a counter on the site that logs how many people have visited it. That would greatly boost the morale of anyone visiting it (if the number is high), and it would tell us how successful we're being at getting the word out about the site. *smacks forehead* Originally posted by Jake-A-Roonie I am SO using that quote. The “Chrono Trigger Remake Petition Groupâ€, as they call themselves, is headed by an energetic 22-year-old lad named Jacob Kuntzman. "I got into Chrono Trigger because Marle was hot," he recalls. When a friend of his jokingly proposed that they create a petition for a remake of the game, Jacob took him seriously and soon began the arduous process of gathering support for the endeavor. One phone call later, he had established contact with Square-Enix of America. About Nathan... *suddenly horrified* You mean to tell me that all the errors on the site, like the "Name" thing and the "Privacy Policy", will never get fixed...ever? You sure his system actually crashed, and he's not making up an excuse? I'm really sorry, but after what Apoc said about lazy programmers, I just can't help but be suspicious. ...By the way, how did he send you an email to tell you about the system crash if he lost his address book and your address? Groovy, David. Could you please PM me your contact information so I can give it to Claado? BTW Jake, I meant to tell you earlier...I emailed you fixed versions of all the petitions, including the extra ones for the staff. I think you should create a "Staff Downloads" thread in this forum so we can archive those downloads (and so Michael, Prop and Apoc can download the fixed versions). EDIT: You know what we should've done? We should've placed a counter on the site that logs how many people have visited it. That would greatly boost the morale of anyone visiting it (if the number is high), and it would tell us how successful we're being at getting the word out about the site. *smacks forehead* |
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A counter on the site... we could have even designed it like the Epoch's time gauge. |
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Well, we may not be able to make that thing publicly viewable, but I'm SURE David's server has an option somewhere to track hits on pages...
Stoney, you are *NOT* using that quote! I said a bunch of stuff; surely you can find something better to use than THAT! Or at least explain that I soon found more to the game than Marle! About Nathan... I said don't ask when it'll happen. I'm not going to let off his case until it DOES happen, but we just don't know when. Yes, I think the errors will be fixed........but it'll be awhile. He didn't email me about it. This was a face-to-face conversation. Staff downloads...sure, why not. Metroid... I didn't say I wanted it in 3rd person for "excitement," as you put it. I just like 3rd person games so that it doesn't feel like an FPS. In 3rd person, you can quickly whip around to point behind you, while in 1st person, you have to TURN.......and if something snuck up behind you and you're TURNING to shoot at it, you're getting owned in that half-second of turning. Plus, I'm not even talking about the girl in the suit... The suit itself is just too pretty not to see! Stoney, you are *NOT* using that quote! I said a bunch of stuff; surely you can find something better to use than THAT! Or at least explain that I soon found more to the game than Marle! About Nathan... I said don't ask when it'll happen. I'm not going to let off his case until it DOES happen, but we just don't know when. Yes, I think the errors will be fixed........but it'll be awhile. He didn't email me about it. This was a face-to-face conversation. Staff downloads...sure, why not. Metroid... I didn't say I wanted it in 3rd person for "excitement," as you put it. I just like 3rd person games so that it doesn't feel like an FPS. In 3rd person, you can quickly whip around to point behind you, while in 1st person, you have to TURN.......and if something snuck up behind you and you're TURNING to shoot at it, you're getting owned in that half-second of turning. Plus, I'm not even talking about the girl in the suit... The suit itself is just too pretty not to see! |
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Ok... so what's the word for someone who's attracted to machines?
Just kidding Jake. And don't worry about the Marle quote. Like I said, this isn't an interview. We wont be getting in depth about you nearly enough to cover that. Just kidding Jake. And don't worry about the Marle quote. Like I said, this isn't an interview. We wont be getting in depth about you nearly enough to cover that. |
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Anybody feel like writing an email to be sent out to those who wrote in to Petition@Vizzed.com to try and sign the petition that way? It should probably run kinda like this...
Bad news: The e-signatures won't work, and why. Good news: Physical signatures will carry more weight of influence. Physical print-outs also encourage group signing, while e-signing depends on internet-surfing habits, which is a very individual thing. More good news: Square Enix's support. Yeah, I know what you're saying, Prop. I'm just saying I know only 1 or 2 tiny things of mine will be used, so let's try not to make me look shallow...k? Bad news: The e-signatures won't work, and why. Good news: Physical signatures will carry more weight of influence. Physical print-outs also encourage group signing, while e-signing depends on internet-surfing habits, which is a very individual thing. More good news: Square Enix's support. Yeah, I know what you're saying, Prop. I'm just saying I know only 1 or 2 tiny things of mine will be used, so let's try not to make me look shallow...k? |
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But Jake, that quote is so funny! I insist we use it.
Here, I added some more quotes, switched them around, and slightly modified one of them so they'd fit better with the flow of the article. The paragraph is longer now, but I think you'll agree with me that it's also better. The “Chrono Trigger Remake Petition Groupâ€, as they call themselves, is headed by an energetic 22-year-old lad named Jacob Kuntzman. “I got into Chrono Trigger because Marle was hot,†he recalls. “I quickly found a new interest, though... Schala. I was your typical Chrono fan after that…[Chrono Trigger] is pretty much what got me started writing, which I've been doing ever since…the numerous endings also had a part to play in driving my creativity and imagination. In that way, Chrono Trigger gave something to me and so now I wanted to give something back.†When a friend of his jokingly proposed that they create a petition for a remake of the game, Jacob took him seriously and soon began the arduous process of gathering support for the endeavor. One phone call later, he had established contact with Square-Enix of America. By the way, I forgot to mention earlier...Apoc, I wasn't trying to be blunt or critical of your work -- I was just joking. Truth is, I've been writing that version of the article for a while now. Here, I added some more quotes, switched them around, and slightly modified one of them so they'd fit better with the flow of the article. The paragraph is longer now, but I think you'll agree with me that it's also better. The “Chrono Trigger Remake Petition Groupâ€, as they call themselves, is headed by an energetic 22-year-old lad named Jacob Kuntzman. “I got into Chrono Trigger because Marle was hot,†he recalls. “I quickly found a new interest, though... Schala. I was your typical Chrono fan after that…[Chrono Trigger] is pretty much what got me started writing, which I've been doing ever since…the numerous endings also had a part to play in driving my creativity and imagination. In that way, Chrono Trigger gave something to me and so now I wanted to give something back.†When a friend of his jokingly proposed that they create a petition for a remake of the game, Jacob took him seriously and soon began the arduous process of gathering support for the endeavor. One phone call later, he had established contact with Square-Enix of America. By the way, I forgot to mention earlier...Apoc, I wasn't trying to be blunt or critical of your work -- I was just joking. Truth is, I've been writing that version of the article for a while now. |
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Originally posted by Propagator4 Nerd? OK Stoney, that paragraph is ok with me. I edited your post though, making one tiny change. Just replaced "that" with "Chrono Trigger" on the sentence about what got me started writing. Originally posted by Propagator4 Nerd? OK Stoney, that paragraph is ok with me. I edited your post though, making one tiny change. Just replaced "that" with "Chrono Trigger" on the sentence about what got me started writing. |
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Stoney, it doesn't seem like you've been paying attention. We don't want the article any longer. We want it shorter. We don't want more quotes from Jake, if any. We want to keep the reader's interest in the petition, not in Jake. It's persuasive writing. I had to do it several times with fundraising post-Katrina. We need to keep the article short and saturated with information about the petition that applies to the readers. If we put in too much unnecessary information, about Jake for example, the readers will get off course thinking about what got them into Chrono Trigger... then before they know it they're at the end of the article, and haven't taken anything out of it. In writing like this you want to lead the reader to an end, not just entertain them.
I'll take care of it when I get some time. Wont be too long, finals are just a few more days. I appreciate the help though. EDIT: I'm sorry, I didn't mean to sound harsh. I just want this article to work as well as it can. I'll take care of it when I get some time. Wont be too long, finals are just a few more days. I appreciate the help though. EDIT: I'm sorry, I didn't mean to sound harsh. I just want this article to work as well as it can. |
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LOL, Prop. I know we're trying to make the article shorter. You can go ahead and leave all the quotes out if you want. I just put the extra ones in because A. It would satisfy Jake and get him to let me use the funny quote, and B. I know that you're going to come along and shorten everything anyway, so it doesn't really matter what I do to the article at this point. I just figured that the quote about Jake getting into Chrono Trigger because he thought Marle was hot is funny enough to get the attention of readers and keep them interested, so I wanted to try having it in the article somehow. |
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It's up to you guys on what to do. I have the address to the petition in my IGN signature, I am only posting on the DS board right now though. |
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