"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line."
President Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998.

"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program."
President Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998.

"Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face."
Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998.

"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983."
Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998

"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs."
Letter to President Clinton, signed by Sens. Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others Oct. 9, 1998.

"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998.

"Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies."
Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999.

"There is no doubt that . Saddam Hussein has reinvigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies."
Letter to President Bush, Signed by Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL,) and others, Dec, 5, 2001.

"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandate of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and the means of delivering them."
Sen. Carl Levin (d, MI), Sept. 19, 2002.

"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country."
Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002.

"Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power."
Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002.

"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seing and developing weapons of mass destruction."
Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002.

"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..."
Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002.

"I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force — if necessary — to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security."
Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002.

"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years . We also should remember we have alway s underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction."
Sen. Jay Rockerfeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002,

"He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do."
Rep. Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002.

"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members. It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."
Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002

"We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction. "[W]ithout question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation. And now he has continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real ...
Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003.

geeogree, I would like to call to attention something you wrote yourself in this forum's guidelines...

Originally posted by geeogree

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2) Be Open-Minded - this goes for EVERYONE! Even me and QuietChaos. If anyone feels that we(the mods) are being grossly unfair or biased in a thread then let either us or an admin know, and adequate action will be taken.

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I am hereby letting you know, geeo -- the way you phrased this thread's subtitle, and the things that you have posted in this thread, suggest that A. all U.S. Democrats think alike and B. that the Democrats in general were the only ones in charge of the decision to go to war in Iraq. That is grossly unfair towards and biased against the registered Democrats on this board.

Please be careful with what you say -- many people will likely take your words the wrong way if you don't exercise some caution.

Originally posted by Stoney

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geeogree, I would like to call to attention something you wrote yourself in this forum's guidelines...

Originally posted by geeogree

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2) Be Open-Minded - this goes for EVERYONE! Even me and QuietChaos. If anyone feels that we(the mods) are being grossly unfair or biased in a thread then let either us or an admin know, and adequate action will be taken.

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I am hereby letting you know, geeo -- the way you phrased this thread's subtitle, and the things that you have posted in this thread, suggest that A. all U.S. Democrats think alike and B. that the Democrats in general were the only ones in charge of the decision to go to war in Iraq. That is grossly unfair towards and biased against the registered Democrats on this board.

Please be careful with what you say -- many people will likely take your words the wrong way if you don't exercise some caution.

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dude, stoney, what you smokin (pot obviously) alls he did was quote a bunch of things and i dont see any real bias in anything he posted.

okay, my opinion is not bias.... and the context is kinda lame... I posted quotes that Democrats have made...

it's not like I'm closing a thread because I disagree...

get over yourself

Sorry, sorry...maybe I was too hasty with what I said there...geeo changed the thread's subtitle, so it's all fine now...

Geez, every single time I enter this forum, I get scolded somehow. I'm just trying to make sure that people don't get offended and start flaming when they enter this place, that's all...

well, posting a reprimand on a mod, isn't smart.... it will probably get you yelled at.

Instead of posting, you should have just sent someone a PM, probably me since I made the post and we could have discussed it privately.

Way to handle that. I think stoney was just using stall tactics to stop us from looking at the meat of the thread lol.

wouldn't surprise me....

he can't argue the actual content.... so he whines about something else that doesn't really matter

Please don't start with that unbased accusation stuff. I really was just trying to make sure everyone gets their say in this forum. It seems like this board is overy Conservative-oriented (you guys have a Conservative Alliance, after all) and the only actual liberal I've seen here is Mike. I'm just worried that any Democrat or moderate liberal who checks out these forums will either refuse to join the board or will be so offended that they'll join just to troll here. It's not that I'm a secret closet liberal plotting ways to destroy you all; I just want things to be fair.

But that's just my opinion. Discard it if you want.

Sorry I accused you wrongly, geeo. My bad. (Please don't hurt me. )

Anyway, I probably won't come to this forum anymore, since every time I step in here, I mess up somehow...I think I'll just stick to the Crazy House...

you can post here.... I don't care.... you are allowed to have an opinion.... and we are allowed to tell you how stupid we think it is as well

HEY I GOT AN IDEA! Lets all spam and be off subject cuz nobody can come up with an opposing argument. Just like the good old days!!!!

or not