geeogree : Well I never thought it originated in Christianity, of course people treated others nice before, but it´s a fact that it is being taught as a Christian doctrine to children down to 8 years old and that´s where I first learned this, so it´s just something I found memorable about the "Christianity classes" I had in elementary school, and since it is being taught by Christians claiming it as a Christian value I decided to use it as an example of something nice you can learn from Christian values.

I´m kinda confused why you brought this up, if I´ve offended in some way (It can be taken as an insult as the Golden Rule I learned says you should extract revenge in the same manner you got treated so that´s negative)I did not realize it and I apologize.

I am an atheist and I normally don´t argue about the reason why I am an atheist and why I think others should be too, however since I have been granted permission in this thread I shall explain "why" I and many atheists are atheists.

But first, let´s looks at what an atheist is, an atheist is someone who does not believe in a god or anything supernatural, if you believe in any higher power, you are not an atheist, if you believe in any type of mythical monsters, then you are not an atheist, now let´s look at "why atheists are atheists".

For me it´s because I have never found any ground that supports the notion that any higher power or mythical monster exists, a lot of books have been written and the Bible is one of those books, I will admit it right here and now that the bible is an impressive book, but so are many other books but what they all share is that they were written by men, for men.

I´ve just learned as I´ve grown up that there is an answer to everything, I keep seeing religious statements being torn down by science replaced by logic, pure cold logic, and I can relate to logic, I can relate to the question "Why is the sky blue?" a lot better with the answer "http://www.sciencemadesimple.com/sky_blue.html" or "http://www.desy.de/user/projects/Physics/General/BlueSky/blue_sky.html" than with "Because god created it that way." And the same goes with just about everything related to Christianity, there is but one single thing that is mentioned in the bible that can not be explained yet, but when everything but one thing can be explained I look at that as an overwhelming majority in favor of science and logic.

"Ignore the stories dude! Look at the peace message Christianity and other religions bring!"

Well I do, in fact I even follow some of the values from Christianity, and the golden rule is even one of my favorite rules, to treat others like I expect to be treated (granted I don´t like the second part of it that says I should treat others as they treat me since I don´t want to hurt people that hurt me so I don´t) however Christianity also has values that are bad like that you should cut off the hand of a woman who touches a mans genitalia if he is in a fight with another man, and the rule that you should throw rock at homosexuals so when all is gone but the good values, what is left ?

I don´t believe in any supernatural beings or gods, I don´t follow the negative rules of many religions, and I can´t be called a Christian/Hindu/Islam or anything else if I only have a set of morals and that I happen to like certain morals from certain religions.

So I am an atheist, and I recommend that people look deeply at themselves and ask themselves "Do I need a religion to be a nice person ?" and "Do the facts provided with science that I can watch with my bare eyes and test seem more reasonable than magic ?"
If people are into religion for the thrills I won´t blame them, and that´s why I don´t try to enforce my point of view except on those rare occasions like this one where I am given permission to do that.

So These are my reasons for being atheist.

Most certainly I like to read, the longest series of books I´ve read is the 82 books series Margit Sandemo wrote that is split into three series, the first being "The lengend of the Ice people" that is 47 books, followed by "The warlock" 15 books and completed with "The legend of the Realm of light" being 20 books. So in total her series spans a good 22550 pages with each book being around 275 pages. But my latest read has been R.A. Salvatores "The legend of Drizzt Do´Urden" a 13 book series but there are also individual trilogies that follow it and a side quintet called "The Cleric Quintet" so I´ve done 17 books of Salvatore (around 6375 pages with each book being around 275 pages) and I´ve yet to read "The hunter´s blades" trilogy that I´ve already bought and that trilogy is also with Drizzt as the main character, so being just done with the original 13 books that have kept me entertained through lunch breaks and bus rides I still have something nice to look forward to

Aside from those I´ve also read all the current Eragon books, LOTR, The Harry Potter series, the first books of The Tunnels series, Ender´s Game, Warcraft Archive + Cycle of Hatred, The Night Angel trilogy and more books.

All in all, books rock! And I love to read.

Edit: Noticed this thread just says "books" but not "novels" so I could include all the manga I´ve read... but for the sake of not making too long a post I will skip that.

So I´m writing a book and I´ve been working on starting the project for quite some while now, collecting ideas and making a base, the book will be a fantasy book that happens in an alternative universe but in an almost medieval setting (not much technology, no guns but perhaps something as sophisticated as crossbows and wooden building and bridges and such) and while I may already be starting off with a cliché here I still want to write my story in that setting, so anyway I need beginner tips, I´ve never written anything longer than 10 pages and as I understand it the first book you write often goes through heavy editing and still ends up being mediocre compared to the books a skilled writer may write, so what I want from you guys is to tell me what you guys like and hate in stories, what kind of scenes bore you and what scenes captivate your interest, do politics bore or thrill ? Is love cliché or exciting ? Is a dark setting dull or mysterious ? And so on and so on.

Obviously I´m not expecting to write like R.A. Salvatore or Margit Sandemo or perhaps even J.R. Tolkein, however I don´t want to write badly either, so what pitfalls do you guys think I should avoid and what would you personally want to see in a story that you´ve not seen yet ?

All suggestions are welcome and the more detailed your opinions are the better
Edit: Oh sorry about putting it in the wrong place, didn´t notice thanks for moving it for me

If you started out as friends and like each other for other reasons than physical reasons then thumbs up You could quite well end up spending your years with her.

But from your post that even says "I finally got a GF!" It sounds more like you´ve just been having your hormones lead you on a wild chase for something you want to experiment with, I would not get too much into that kind of a relationship.

And yes to the other older vizzers, I know the irony considering I´m not that much older myself, but I still stand by my words.

sophielove23 : Heh, that portrait is pretty accurate of me, only things that doesn´t fit are my eyes that are a dullish mixture of blue and gray, and the pants, skinny pants are really uncomfortable for any healthy male, you should know why.

My GF that I´ve known for a good 4 years now is a tad chubby (not TV chubby but above the 100K´s real chubby) and she always used to want me to bulk up a little since I don´t show a lot of muscle, so we´re making a compromise, I hit the gym and bulk up while she slims down

Now my type of girl in terms of looks is the generic nice ass large breasts pretty face well rounded girl, but looks aren´t everything, my fav type of girl overall is just someone who doesn´t care what I say or think (I look at things this way, you can think, desire and say WHATEVER you want with NO LIMITS! and I will never ever judge a person for it, only for a persons actions do I judge it (ofcourse granted the words you say are not meant to be hurtful to another person, I take that as an action)), doesn´t mind my company and doesn´t judge me based on looks (I really look quite ugly, the few good parts in your post you mentioned are parts I have but they don´t cover up for me looking bad in general).

Me and my GF are both kinda the introvert type, so we fit eachother quite good, neither of us drinks or smokes or uses any other type of intoxicants and we like to play games and read/watch manga/anime, so that creates a bit of a nice comfortable atmosphere, I like that in a girl too, just being able to relax with her and to have a good time.

Offline without a doubt.

1. Offline games offer a better story because they allow phasing more easily than online games.
2. Offline games offer better gameplay because it can add endless amounts of diversity while online games are stuck trying to be as much like chess as possible (if you check out WoW you will see what I mean, World of Chesscraft is more like it these days).
3. Offline games offer unlimited progression.
4. Offline games require no subscription fee after a X amount of time.
5. Offline games don´t "need" you to be there for a raid or something, you can take a break whenever you want to.
6. Offline games neither have elitists nor noobs.
7. You can choose any of the different things you want in a offline game, sure you can go for the best spec in the whole game but unlike in online game no one forces you to do it and you can be a bard or whatever you want to be.
8. No hackers or gold sellers messing up your game.
9. Never unplayable because of connection issues.

And I can go on.

Only thing that Online games are better at is that you can more easily play with friends, but online games consist most of the time 99% of strangers who most of the times are either elitists who put you down for playing the way you want to play (even when you´re not even asking to play with those people...) or noobs who believe it´s your duty to either do what they want you to do (boosts, giving money, help them... ect) or get spammed by them logging between different characters between each ignore.

Story story story, and the more I can be involved the better. That is if I affect the story and yet it plays out beautifully then that rocks! So yeah, my favorite kind of games are RPG´s with 100% freeroam and a good story to boot.

Elubell : Actually I´m quite the coward, it may be that I have a phobia of dogs but if a dog growls near me I can´t handle it and even barks can get to me, if I see a dog that has no leash I take a BIG detour often going past a whole block of houses to get past it, and even leashed up dogs if they get close to me when I walk past I back off so that they can´t reach me.

It´s just that I don´t believe in ghosts or any supernatural being, and I think ghost hunter show are really silly because most of them happen in old and poorly ventilated/positioned places and that can create a scary environment, even scary enough to make people believe something supernatural is going on and if there is ever a ghost caught in one of those shows it´s never a clear and good image. Often it´s just tremors in the ground (and it just so happens that there are nearly constant minor earthquakes going on that are too small for humans to detect without tremor detecting devices, such as the ones ghost hunters may have) or small flickers of light that could easily be caused by the reflection of a outside light or some minor light source in the room, and who is to say that "ghost hunters" can´t easily edit their videos to create effects, then there are the "radars" that pick up magic waves, such as microwaves and radio-waves..., yeah real magic there, microwaves or radio-waves could never come from anything besides a ghost.

However I honestly believe psychics when they say that they feel ghosts, and the reason for that is that humans have a VERY advanced brain that can sometimes mess with us, if we focus intently on something we may start to "feel" it is real or that it is happening, we may feel that the chilly breeze is a ghost or that the sudden glum feeling we get in a dark moody environment is because of a supernatural being, we can even create fear of a place simply with the correct amount of atmosphere and imagination, creating places where they honestly believe there is a ghost (often abandoned cellars or tunnels or specific rooms), so I believe those particular individuals had those experiences however the cause of them I strongly believe is a false one.

So never mistake me saying that there are no ghosts with me saying that you have never "experienced" what you think may have been a ghost, it certainly was not, but it may have felt like it, with the music box in particular if you tell me how it´s designed, like what makes it play music and how it plays music I´m pretty sure I can think of some reason for it starting to play all of a sudden.

Oh and I´m sorry if I´m creating too much of a ping pong back and forwards discussion, so I apologize in advance if I´m breaking a rule here.

Edit: To clarify on the rule, there is a rule that says that any two specific board members should not continuously post one after the other like if we have person A,B,C,D & E the conversation should not go "A,B,A,B,A,B,A,B" but more like "A,B,C,A,D,B,E,C..." with a larger diversity of posters.

Elubell : Lol indeed, heck if you got really haunted so you´d have any physical of psychological damage I´d personally pay for any treatments, that´s how confident I am that there are no ghosts in this world.

I voted "I don´t know" by accident (how come you can´t take back a vote and put it elsewhere?) but the real answer is that I´ve lied many times about my age on the internet on sites with age restrictions, it´s not someone elses duty to watch out what I see, if it´s someones duty it´s my parents.

I really dislike parents who blame others for their failure to keep their kids from stuff they don´t want them to see if they don´t want their kid to see something. Call me cruel but if I had a child I´d simply put a child lock on their PC for certain sites and allowing them only to play at certain times, if they could get passed it then they would deserve to see what they wanted since if they were smart enough to take down what locks I´d put in place they should be able to handle 18+ images.

However concerning stuff that is not on the internet, like public services where they have a lower price for kids I have never lied, if I ran a public service and was nice enough to understand that children don´t have as much money to spend I´d expect the grown ups not to abuse my services so I don´t abuse age services despite my small stature, I can get away with saying I´m a lot younger than I am because I have a childish face and in general I have chilish features for my age.

However with age limits because of morals I always lie if I need to, like if a movie is 18+, be it on the internet or not it´s never someone elses problem excep the parents to make sure their kids don´t see something with an age restriction.

Naruto isn´t really "best" since no anime is really "best" but it is good in its way and perhaps "best in some ways". So two reasons that make us bow before this giant of a manga showering it in praise as the jolly good lowly servants we are to it.

1. Consistant storyline, from the very first episode the storyline of the end is unraveling itself bit by bit and no part of the story is 100% irrevelant (that is in the manga, the anime can go hop into a pit of snakes).

2. Creative & gives each character its own flavor, unlike in DB where everyone is flying and learning the same energy blasts and doing the same punches and just being the same on different levels of power, Naruto has something unique to most any character, each of the 12 "main" students that the story follows (I say 12 but not 9 cos I´m including Gai´s team) has something different from the other, even the two Hyuuga members Hinata and Neji are a bit different in their fighting style (Hinata is more focused on speed with her chakra while Neji is more about using his eyes for intuition).

There, two reasons to gawk at this masterpiece we call Naruto.

Was forced to make up my homework as I handed it in this week. In my current Icelandic course I´m studying the Snorra Edda and the teacher put us in groups and gave us the assignment to bring one story (that she picked for each group) into more modern Icelandic and we were suppoast to present it to the class later in the week.

So I ended up in a group of 2 (it was suppoast to be 4 but two were sick so it was just me + another guy) and the other person in my group was really lazy, I gave him a choise between writing down notes or translating the story from old Icelandic to modern Icelandic and he picked to write notes, so he brought up his laptop and started to take notes and made a powerpoint presentation as I translated each sentence in the story and re-told it to him so that he could take notes, however I found out later in the week in the 2nd Icelandic class of the week that he had made like 9 lines of a powerpoint presentation having like 3 lines on 3 sheets so it was nearly not good enough to count as a proper presentation.

So it ended with me getting a bit annoyed at him so I had him just shift the 3 tiny slideshows in the presentation as I had to recite the entire story from memory to the class.

So yeah, when I say make up my homework what I mean is that I had to tell it with no support unlike most who had a full paper of notes to read as they had their presentation, so really going over the story quickly so I could remember every detail before being called up to show my presentation really was a last minute thing, I should have just written notes myself (and I would have if I had known the dude I was working with hadn´t been taking any notes).

#28: Chocolate is useful in the kitchen.

For me it´s the worst movie that has been made so far in the history of film-making.

What is the most important aspect for me in any movie or game is the story, and in Not-DB-Evolution they took the story, spit on it, scrambled it together and glued it together with poo.

Really no matter who you are you can not take a story or even a song and mess it up and proclaim it better, not even that it´s a different version. The movie should have had a different title more fitting to the slim emo flat haired techno angst Goku (at least compared to the manga/anime) and the violent and way too old Bulma and the *ucked up storyline that is so broken in so many ways I can´t mention all the different pieces without turning this into the longest post on Vizzed.

I always get as angry at that movie when I think of it just like every time I think about Basshunter I get pissed at him for ruining Ieva´s polka for so many that don´t even know there is an original version, in the same way James Wong has destroyed any notion of DB being half decent for many people.

This is my view of the movie.

What I wanted when I first heard of a DB movie was a movie that stuck true to the original story and setting, but only added never before told story in between, it could be a story that happens at any time in the time-line where Goku doesn´t play any role as he´s out on a trip or something like that. It could also have picked up where GT left telling us more about the story of the children of Dragonball, heck it could even have been about going into more detail the fight Trunks had with the Androids in his real time before he used the time machine or maybe about Goku´s father, Gohan and his adventures. Just anything that staid true with the story but didn´t crash it into a million pieces.

To mention something annoying more than hurtful or mean is that my friend was messing with me and deleted my save in Oblivion where I was high level but had not finished all the quests in the game explaining he had a way of restoring it and that he was just messing around when he saw how pissed I was (was extra pissed cos that was my 2nd attempt at doing everything in the game, the first attempt went away cos my old PC kinda broke down... won´t go into details) but then it turned out after he had been trying to restore my saved game... that he actually couldn´t get it back. So I had to start all over again.

Kinda glad I did though since I decided to go with a Breton Battle-magi and I ended up more powerful after I had finished every single quest in the game than I could ever have become on my Khajiit assassin-thief-illusionist could ever have become yet in both cases I stuck to character (as in role playing).

Why all the motion controls ? I will tell you why. Because it´s a great concept!

Let´s imagine that it´s the future, you just bought the latest Elderscrolls game and you go home to your gaming rig with the CD and a few extra items that came with the game, your gaming rig consists of a swing very much like a baby swing except one that supports your weight at the chest area rather than near the hips, under the swing in a circular ball in the floor that rolls in a empty pocket in the floor that keeps it in place as you walk on it, but the swing having two poles rather than strings helps you keep your balance. You load your game and attach the items that came with the game to the sides of the swing, you then grab a light helmet or headgear you put on your head that gives you a 1st person perspective on the game, all around you are sensors that take note of your movements and the ball under you serves as floor where you can run or walk and even jump by stamping it increasing the force on the ball for it to register the movement as a jump. So you stand still on the large ball and press a button to reset the registered weight to fit it to your own weight, you then go through a tutorial of the game that shows you what item represents what in-game item, one perhaps that´s light and small with a handle that could count as a knife or a fork or a spoon or any other item of similar weight, and then perhaps one item that´s heavy and big and could count as a warhammer or a scythe or a battle-axe, and maybe yet another medium one that could count in weight and shape as a rapier or a katana or perhaps a small flail and so forth and so forth. And in game as you move the items the sensors register the movements in accordance to the scenario in game allowing you to interract with the game nearly 80% or so like as if it was in real life.

This unreal idea I just brewed up in my head is ofc ridiculus now and if it would be implemented it would be done better, but if it was done would I buy it ? HELL YEAH!
I´d be the first guy in line!

The prospect of such control and real motions in accordance with a game is something that makes some nerds wet their pants in a series of nerdgasms & there could be a good profit involved in using motion sensors for better motion controls. It would be hard and is probably impossible right now, but the same goes for many inventions "lol u can use round wheel to move heavy rock ?" said the caveman, "HAH think humans can enter space ?" said the year 1700 farmer & "lol, motion controls are unreal man, no way we will have that implemented right ever!" said the 21st century nerd.

Sorry if I wrote too much weird stuff.

Didowe : I meant no harm, but really you need to try it out, when you first got any good amount of money between your hands, go and buy a TON of food and just smash the food button as you fight, apples and fish tends to be pretty cheap so I always start with those, you can buy a 100 apples for like 600 gold in Albion, so you don´t need "that" much money really.

Since I made a reply I will mention another game, about every single fighting game like Tekken or Soul Calibur where you can "stunlock" an enemy by doing the same trick again and again, I made my little brother play tekken 3 when he was 5 years old and I made him play as Eddy and then made him just press forward so his fighter would go closer to the enemy while smashing X and O.

He never lost a fight.

vizwiz123 : Well, at least that´s a bit more common since a lot of men form the so called "beer belly", but if you don´t/won´t drink (like me) people are going to notice