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04-28-17 04:32 AM
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No Man's Sky... Mighty No. 9... what do they have in common? They were both hyped, then were criticized for not living up to their fanfare. Hype can be good, as it gets people aware of something and more eager to purchase it. On the other hand, promising too many things can lead to accusations of false integrity.What do you think? Discuss. 
No Man's Sky... Mighty No. 9... what do they have in common? They were both hyped, then were criticized for not living up to their fanfare. Hype can be good, as it gets people aware of something and more eager to purchase it. On the other hand, promising too many things can lead to accusations of false integrity.What do you think? Discuss. 
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Absolutely. Wind Waker was hyped to the earth and back, and when I played it I got an empty world filled with my least favorite beverage.

Oh, and only 4 dungeons. Seriously, I would have excused it if people weren't treating it like the holy grail of the gamecube but I can't excuse bad design. Heard they fixed all of it in HD though, so it's redeemed.

As for the two games cited I think that Mighty No. 9 is cool and I don't have an issue with the whole kickstarter thing because I didn't fund it and no mans sky I hadn't even heard of.

By the way before anyone says Yooka Laylee, they need to understand it's meant to be a new banjo game in the style of Tooie and not Kazooie. If you didn't enjoy tooie you probably won't like it. And before you say Kazooie was perfect please remove your rose tinted nostalgia goggles. Every game has flaws.
Absolutely. Wind Waker was hyped to the earth and back, and when I played it I got an empty world filled with my least favorite beverage.

Oh, and only 4 dungeons. Seriously, I would have excused it if people weren't treating it like the holy grail of the gamecube but I can't excuse bad design. Heard they fixed all of it in HD though, so it's redeemed.

As for the two games cited I think that Mighty No. 9 is cool and I don't have an issue with the whole kickstarter thing because I didn't fund it and no mans sky I hadn't even heard of.

By the way before anyone says Yooka Laylee, they need to understand it's meant to be a new banjo game in the style of Tooie and not Kazooie. If you didn't enjoy tooie you probably won't like it. And before you say Kazooie was perfect please remove your rose tinted nostalgia goggles. Every game has flaws.
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I think hype can be good or bad. Over times it has gotten people excited for a product. Over times it has gotten people excited only for the product to not be so hot. 

A good example when I was little there was a lot of hype for Mega Man 2. Commercials where ran and it created a lot of hype. It ended up being good Mega Man 2 was a huge hit and established Mega Man as one of the more popular video games of all time. Another example is Super Mario Bros 3 that game had a lot of hype to it, commercials, even a cartoon show. Guess what it was a huge hit as well. 

Here is how Hype can also be bad. Streets of Rage 2 also known as Bare Knuckle II was a huge hit. So two years later when the makers released Streets of Rage 3 or Bare Knuckle III lot of people were thinking it would be as good as 2. There was a lot of hype. The game though was not near as good as the first two games. It was not terrible but not that great either it had a sloppy feel to it. Thus all the hype amounted to nothing. 

I don't know much about the modern video games that you mentioned. It is hard to tell how if hype will be good or bad. I think it depends on how the game is pitched to the market and how it is sold to the market. I think also how well the game is put together goes a long way too 
I think hype can be good or bad. Over times it has gotten people excited for a product. Over times it has gotten people excited only for the product to not be so hot. 

A good example when I was little there was a lot of hype for Mega Man 2. Commercials where ran and it created a lot of hype. It ended up being good Mega Man 2 was a huge hit and established Mega Man as one of the more popular video games of all time. Another example is Super Mario Bros 3 that game had a lot of hype to it, commercials, even a cartoon show. Guess what it was a huge hit as well. 

Here is how Hype can also be bad. Streets of Rage 2 also known as Bare Knuckle II was a huge hit. So two years later when the makers released Streets of Rage 3 or Bare Knuckle III lot of people were thinking it would be as good as 2. There was a lot of hype. The game though was not near as good as the first two games. It was not terrible but not that great either it had a sloppy feel to it. Thus all the hype amounted to nothing. 

I don't know much about the modern video games that you mentioned. It is hard to tell how if hype will be good or bad. I think it depends on how the game is pitched to the market and how it is sold to the market. I think also how well the game is put together goes a long way too 
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Hype increases expectations and when that happens you will almost always become disappointed. It can go the other way too. I've seen bad hype for things and ended up liking them.
Hype increases expectations and when that happens you will almost always become disappointed. It can go the other way too. I've seen bad hype for things and ended up liking them.
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I like to think I'm open-minded about everything. I don't get super worked up for events, games, activities, but I don't think anything is going to be bad either. It's just simply an ideology of "Let's go find out what this is like."

So, I went to the 2005 Michigan-Texas Rose Bowl in Pasadena, California. We went to go enjoy some football. They were two great teams and everything was going to be amazing. I said, 'I hope I enjoy the experience and it should be fun.'

I'm positive if anything.

But, even though the wrong team won, it was a good time. I didn't get all hyped up but I went and had fun.

The same goes for everything else. GO, try it out, experience some stuff, maybe it's great, maybe not. Either way, the less you expect, the better time you'll probably have.

I don't let hype get to me. I like going in blind and not knowing what others think.
I like to think I'm open-minded about everything. I don't get super worked up for events, games, activities, but I don't think anything is going to be bad either. It's just simply an ideology of "Let's go find out what this is like."

So, I went to the 2005 Michigan-Texas Rose Bowl in Pasadena, California. We went to go enjoy some football. They were two great teams and everything was going to be amazing. I said, 'I hope I enjoy the experience and it should be fun.'

I'm positive if anything.

But, even though the wrong team won, it was a good time. I didn't get all hyped up but I went and had fun.

The same goes for everything else. GO, try it out, experience some stuff, maybe it's great, maybe not. Either way, the less you expect, the better time you'll probably have.

I don't let hype get to me. I like going in blind and not knowing what others think.
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That's been a huge problem in my life. I'll get really excited for something, mainly a video game, to come out but then it isn't as good as I expected it to be. A lot of times, someone will announce something to me that I get pumped about. Then the result is disappointing only because me and others expected so much.

My school's prom is a great example My school, like every school is I think, constantly advertised their prom as a fancy event with a formal dinner and good music. The dinner almost lived up to my expectations because it was pretty good, but the music was rap for basically the whole time. Literally for the first hour of the dance where the music was playing and people were finished eating, they just stood there and talked to each other instead of dancing. XD

But I still enjoyed it. When I received my ticket, I chose to get a table with 2 of my friends (who happened to be girls) and I sat with them the whole time since I didn't want to go with a date. We only danced
together for 1 song where we got in a circle and jumped around, and we did our own thing dancing to the music only a couple times.

The only thing I thought was a bummer was that only 1 of my dude friends was there so it was awkward at first.
That's been a huge problem in my life. I'll get really excited for something, mainly a video game, to come out but then it isn't as good as I expected it to be. A lot of times, someone will announce something to me that I get pumped about. Then the result is disappointing only because me and others expected so much.

My school's prom is a great example My school, like every school is I think, constantly advertised their prom as a fancy event with a formal dinner and good music. The dinner almost lived up to my expectations because it was pretty good, but the music was rap for basically the whole time. Literally for the first hour of the dance where the music was playing and people were finished eating, they just stood there and talked to each other instead of dancing. XD

But I still enjoyed it. When I received my ticket, I chose to get a table with 2 of my friends (who happened to be girls) and I sat with them the whole time since I didn't want to go with a date. We only danced
together for 1 song where we got in a circle and jumped around, and we did our own thing dancing to the music only a couple times.

The only thing I thought was a bummer was that only 1 of my dude friends was there so it was awkward at first.
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Hype in itself doesn't really kill things for me, but the most hyped up games often end up being some of the most disappointing. The last time I really bought into the hype for a game was Watch Dogs which I ended up getting when buying a PS4 and I found it to be a complete disappointment. Ever since then I've become pretty skeptical about games that promise too much. Basically seeming too good to be true (No Man's Sky is a good example which I never got excited for nor did I plan on buying it since I figured it would end up being a disappointing). Basically I usually do not care if other people are hyped for something, personally however I just avoid being hyped for games or other products in general. The sole exceptions being stuff I'm more or less certain I'm going to get enjoyment out of (like a game from a franchise I've been playing for a long time).
Hype in itself doesn't really kill things for me, but the most hyped up games often end up being some of the most disappointing. The last time I really bought into the hype for a game was Watch Dogs which I ended up getting when buying a PS4 and I found it to be a complete disappointment. Ever since then I've become pretty skeptical about games that promise too much. Basically seeming too good to be true (No Man's Sky is a good example which I never got excited for nor did I plan on buying it since I figured it would end up being a disappointing). Basically I usually do not care if other people are hyped for something, personally however I just avoid being hyped for games or other products in general. The sole exceptions being stuff I'm more or less certain I'm going to get enjoyment out of (like a game from a franchise I've been playing for a long time).
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I've heard this referred to as "The Half-Life 3 effect". In terms of videogames, the fan base if oftentimes just as guilty as the developers if there's no false advertising. Everyone gets excited about things when they should have more realistic expectations and they're just setting themselves up for a massive crash. Optimism isn't ignoring the possibility of things that can go wrong and "looking at the good", it's coming up with a backup plan for when your initial plan falls through. It's packing gauss on a hiking trip in case someone tears them self open. Accept and enjoy things for what they are instead of hyping yourself up for something amazing and then wondering "why is this happening to me?" when reality hits.
I've heard this referred to as "The Half-Life 3 effect". In terms of videogames, the fan base if oftentimes just as guilty as the developers if there's no false advertising. Everyone gets excited about things when they should have more realistic expectations and they're just setting themselves up for a massive crash. Optimism isn't ignoring the possibility of things that can go wrong and "looking at the good", it's coming up with a backup plan for when your initial plan falls through. It's packing gauss on a hiking trip in case someone tears them self open. Accept and enjoy things for what they are instead of hyping yourself up for something amazing and then wondering "why is this happening to me?" when reality hits.
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Hm... Nope. Hype doesn't really kill anything for me because only spoilers do. ^^0;; For me, when I hear that something might be good, I keep that at the back of my mind and count how many times people end up recommending something to me. At a certain point, I'll decide to go to see what they're talking about to see if something really is as good as they said it was. Even then, I'll still keep in mind that not everyone has the same sense of humor I do, or the same likes or dislikes, so what they consider to be bad might not be something I would necessarily consider to be bad.

For stuff like games and movies that have yet to be released, I usually try to think about the trailers and ads from different perspectives to see what the ads might be trying to leave out. Sometimes, the ads and trailers themselves will give out some hints as to how good or bad the games or movies actually are, because they will intentionally leave out certain bits of crucial information while trying to draw attention to something else over and over in an attempt to cover up the missing info.

For instance, there are a few false advertisement joke commercials that I always think of whenever I'm shopping and I look at an ad. In one of the commercials, the title was something like, "Smoking hot car available!" and the car that they present has literally been set on fire (they're showing you what happened to the car and why it was even for sale in the first place). In another one, the title was something like, "Great interiors, just like new!" but the car is totally submerged in muddy/questionable water and it's obvious that the exterior of the car had been completely ruined due to some type of flooding disaster in the area.

It's because of instances like these that I often take things with a grain of salt and try to think about what the games and trailers are trying not to draw attention to. If a trailer looks awesome from beginning to end, it might mean that the film really is going to be great (because if just a few minutes are already that good, then the rest of it must be even better, right?), or it's not going to be half as good as everyone thinks because whoever was putting the trailer together just did a good job of splicing all of the most important/best parts of the film together into that one trailer. This is why I would often view at least 2 trailers (with the second one being somewhat different from the first one) to compare them and determine if the film or game is more likely to be good or not. So far, this method has been working and hasn't really failed me. Thus, there are times when other people are hyped up for some things, but I don't end up going along with the hype (not because I don't care though), because I've already tried to look into whatever they're going on about and received the feeling that it's not going to be as good as they're making it out to be. Similarly, there are times when some of my friends think something will be a flop, but they see me going crazy over it until they go to see it for themselves and end up agreeing that it was actually pretty good.
Hm... Nope. Hype doesn't really kill anything for me because only spoilers do. ^^0;; For me, when I hear that something might be good, I keep that at the back of my mind and count how many times people end up recommending something to me. At a certain point, I'll decide to go to see what they're talking about to see if something really is as good as they said it was. Even then, I'll still keep in mind that not everyone has the same sense of humor I do, or the same likes or dislikes, so what they consider to be bad might not be something I would necessarily consider to be bad.

For stuff like games and movies that have yet to be released, I usually try to think about the trailers and ads from different perspectives to see what the ads might be trying to leave out. Sometimes, the ads and trailers themselves will give out some hints as to how good or bad the games or movies actually are, because they will intentionally leave out certain bits of crucial information while trying to draw attention to something else over and over in an attempt to cover up the missing info.

For instance, there are a few false advertisement joke commercials that I always think of whenever I'm shopping and I look at an ad. In one of the commercials, the title was something like, "Smoking hot car available!" and the car that they present has literally been set on fire (they're showing you what happened to the car and why it was even for sale in the first place). In another one, the title was something like, "Great interiors, just like new!" but the car is totally submerged in muddy/questionable water and it's obvious that the exterior of the car had been completely ruined due to some type of flooding disaster in the area.

It's because of instances like these that I often take things with a grain of salt and try to think about what the games and trailers are trying not to draw attention to. If a trailer looks awesome from beginning to end, it might mean that the film really is going to be great (because if just a few minutes are already that good, then the rest of it must be even better, right?), or it's not going to be half as good as everyone thinks because whoever was putting the trailer together just did a good job of splicing all of the most important/best parts of the film together into that one trailer. This is why I would often view at least 2 trailers (with the second one being somewhat different from the first one) to compare them and determine if the film or game is more likely to be good or not. So far, this method has been working and hasn't really failed me. Thus, there are times when other people are hyped up for some things, but I don't end up going along with the hype (not because I don't care though), because I've already tried to look into whatever they're going on about and received the feeling that it's not going to be as good as they're making it out to be. Similarly, there are times when some of my friends think something will be a flop, but they see me going crazy over it until they go to see it for themselves and end up agreeing that it was actually pretty good.
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If our expectations towards a specific upcoming game are really high, then yes I do think hype can destroy us because it kinda meant we were overexcited for nothing. It's becoming more like ads vs real life . I don't have any video game in mind, but I can tell that I know the feeling when you expect a lot from an upcoming game and end up disappointed in the end because the game turns out to be a failure (or at least not as good as the trailers)
If our expectations towards a specific upcoming game are really high, then yes I do think hype can destroy us because it kinda meant we were overexcited for nothing. It's becoming more like ads vs real life . I don't have any video game in mind, but I can tell that I know the feeling when you expect a lot from an upcoming game and end up disappointed in the end because the game turns out to be a failure (or at least not as good as the trailers)
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It can almost every time, since I get so high expectations to the thing and always it will ruin me since I get to high expectations to the thing. So I have learned that when it comes to new stuff I should not go into it with to high of a expectations since then I can't be disappointment and will not be sad either.
It can almost every time, since I get so high expectations to the thing and always it will ruin me since I get to high expectations to the thing. So I have learned that when it comes to new stuff I should not go into it with to high of a expectations since then I can't be disappointment and will not be sad either.
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Tbh I find it hard for me to get hyped for things since all the new things are coming out on new consoles my family can't afford :v.

Sure I get hyped for things, but not so much to the point I'm anticipating the release and can't wait for it to become playable. Most of the time.

But yes, even I tend to get disappointed if something I hyped up doesn't even get close to my expectations...
Tbh I find it hard for me to get hyped for things since all the new things are coming out on new consoles my family can't afford :v.

Sure I get hyped for things, but not so much to the point I'm anticipating the release and can't wait for it to become playable. Most of the time.

But yes, even I tend to get disappointed if something I hyped up doesn't even get close to my expectations...
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Well it really depend on what it is. I'm going to have to say for the most part, yes it can kill things very quick, because you will get sick of what ever it is. I'm a Hugh wrestling fan, and for the longest time they have been trying to push a certain superstar, who in the very beckoning I really like, but due to hype, and him always winning me and a lot of other wrestling fans weren't to happy. Then on the other hand I'm a product of the 90s and Nu metal was hyped for a long time, and here I am 20 years later still listening to it. I think it just depends on what it is.
Well it really depend on what it is. I'm going to have to say for the most part, yes it can kill things very quick, because you will get sick of what ever it is. I'm a Hugh wrestling fan, and for the longest time they have been trying to push a certain superstar, who in the very beckoning I really like, but due to hype, and him always winning me and a lot of other wrestling fans weren't to happy. Then on the other hand I'm a product of the 90s and Nu metal was hyped for a long time, and here I am 20 years later still listening to it. I think it just depends on what it is.
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Being a fighting gamer, XD I guess it would be expected that I am all about hype. I feel that hype is a driving force for video games, but developer tend to never live up to it. It's kind of weird. It is just now getting more attention because of its importance. Some companies like Capcom have tried to incorporate their fans into their games by getting the feedback of their top competitors for games like Street Fighter V. Heck, one company had the fans as its main focus for E3. It's just really hard for gaming companies to please fans of all backgrounds with their franchises. For example, ever since importing arcade games to home consoles, Capcom has been facing this dilemma for the longest: "Do we focus on pleasing the competitive and hardcore players of the game or focus on the casual players more?" While it's easy to agree that siding with the more loyal players is better, they will lose a lot of money because the casual players are earning them most of their sales. One thing I have noticed, however, is that fan made games are some of the best games that build up hype AND deliver! Just take a look at Hyper Dragon Ball Z for example! I am so glad at least one gaming company, which used to be my favorite, has caught on to that: SEGA!! SEGA almost died because it couldn't keep up with the other top gaming companies, but I feel that it is slowly but surely creeping its way back to the top. With the upcoming release of Sonic Forces and Sonic Mania, you can tell someone in SEGA caught on to the fact that it has hardcore fans of only Classic Sonic and hardcore fans of only Modern Sonic, so now they're trying to please both! It's genius actually! I think that the sales of Sonic Generations helped them realize that and I am glad they did! If you haven't noticed, they are adding back classic SEGA games back to iOS, Android, etc. along with new releases as well. SEGA has even been hiring their fans to help with ideas and properly developing their new releases too! I can't believe I finally get to say this but, SEGA truly does what Nintendon't!! It's not dead yet! XD

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Being a fighting gamer, XD I guess it would be expected that I am all about hype. I feel that hype is a driving force for video games, but developer tend to never live up to it. It's kind of weird. It is just now getting more attention because of its importance. Some companies like Capcom have tried to incorporate their fans into their games by getting the feedback of their top competitors for games like Street Fighter V. Heck, one company had the fans as its main focus for E3. It's just really hard for gaming companies to please fans of all backgrounds with their franchises. For example, ever since importing arcade games to home consoles, Capcom has been facing this dilemma for the longest: "Do we focus on pleasing the competitive and hardcore players of the game or focus on the casual players more?" While it's easy to agree that siding with the more loyal players is better, they will lose a lot of money because the casual players are earning them most of their sales. One thing I have noticed, however, is that fan made games are some of the best games that build up hype AND deliver! Just take a look at Hyper Dragon Ball Z for example! I am so glad at least one gaming company, which used to be my favorite, has caught on to that: SEGA!! SEGA almost died because it couldn't keep up with the other top gaming companies, but I feel that it is slowly but surely creeping its way back to the top. With the upcoming release of Sonic Forces and Sonic Mania, you can tell someone in SEGA caught on to the fact that it has hardcore fans of only Classic Sonic and hardcore fans of only Modern Sonic, so now they're trying to please both! It's genius actually! I think that the sales of Sonic Generations helped them realize that and I am glad they did! If you haven't noticed, they are adding back classic SEGA games back to iOS, Android, etc. along with new releases as well. SEGA has even been hiring their fans to help with ideas and properly developing their new releases too! I can't believe I finally get to say this but, SEGA truly does what Nintendon't!! It's not dead yet! XD

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PoptartSlayerXD : Yes, it has always been true that Sega does what Nintendon't. :V lol


In a very different way than what you mean, yes, hype does kill things for me. I don't tend to get hyped up for new games when the hype builds, but the exact opposite happens when a game is released and gets hyped and such. For example: I already dislike Destiny and hate Call of Duty, and I've never played either. When something gets talked about all the time, I become annoyed with it and automatically become biased against it. I always have.

As for the other kind of hype kill, nah, people just need to learn to temper their expectations with reality. Most of the disappointment with No Man's Sky was due to the gamer community misconstruing what Hello Games said, and setting ridiculous expectations for the game. It was exactly what was teased at the first E3 appearance, and exactly what I expected it to be: a single player exploration experience. I might or might not run into another player, but I didn't care if I did or not -- I wanted this single player experience.
PoptartSlayerXD : Yes, it has always been true that Sega does what Nintendon't. :V lol


In a very different way than what you mean, yes, hype does kill things for me. I don't tend to get hyped up for new games when the hype builds, but the exact opposite happens when a game is released and gets hyped and such. For example: I already dislike Destiny and hate Call of Duty, and I've never played either. When something gets talked about all the time, I become annoyed with it and automatically become biased against it. I always have.

As for the other kind of hype kill, nah, people just need to learn to temper their expectations with reality. Most of the disappointment with No Man's Sky was due to the gamer community misconstruing what Hello Games said, and setting ridiculous expectations for the game. It was exactly what was teased at the first E3 appearance, and exactly what I expected it to be: a single player exploration experience. I might or might not run into another player, but I didn't care if I did or not -- I wanted this single player experience.
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