Supermatt6534: And made sure they grew even bigger thanks to new regulations such as Dodd-Frank. Since its voting five years ago, a single new bank opened its doors, while 23 percent of small banks closed down because the regulations have become too costly for them to operate.

Rasenganfan2 : media usually love dynasties. Last year at CPAC I clearly saw that Bush was only a media phenomenon; he has virtually no popular support. Same thing for Clinton: she is part of the establishment and made many "friends" that help her in the media.

janus : They grew bigger because they stopped the regulation(the repeal of Glass Steagal).Small business have trouble with low regulation,so saying regulation causes bankruptcy is false(not to say regulations can't backfire if not done right).

Supermatt6534 : please, tell me when financial regulations have decreased on the net: http://regdata.org/did-deregulation-cause-the-financial-crisis-examining-a-common-justification-for-dodd-frank/ 

Also, you do not grasp the concept of hidden cost. When regulations are too burdensome as they are right now, new businesses have a hard time forming. Therefore it serves as a means for established corporations to grow bigger. More regulation = more cost = fewer new businesses.

janus : http://www.redlands.edu/docs/URSB/4_GLASS_STEAGALL_-_formatted__edited.pdf
There is a reason for regulations.More money does not out way the consequences of letting businesses doing whatever they want.

Anyone except Hillary. I will explain why.

1. She could not handle a lesser job as Secretary of State. What makes her think she can be a President? Sure,her hubby managed to coast through,be he did it at the right time and had the right people.

2. Benghazi. As SoS (Secretary of State) she is essentially the President or at least his representative. Yet,she failed miserably in preventing that attack.

3. Her e-mail and fundraising. Now it is okay to have a private email for personal things. Like mail from home,your online shopping,friends. But your work email is for work only. Now if you and I used a private email for work,we would be disciplined or fired. Her fundraising is suspect,we all know it,we just cannot prove it.

I would almost rather have Trump as president over Clinton. Almost.

Hillary. You guys deserve her. 

Supermatt6534 :

They broke the big banks into smaller ones. It'd be like if we took Chevron and made it into 3 companies. This isn't similar to taxing the crap out of them; it's an anti-monopoly move. No one has a monopoly.

Txgangsta : They did it because they had too much power.It was not simply a monopoly prevention.
http://useconomy.about.com/od/glossary/g/Glass_Steagall_Act.htm

They had too much power compared to who or what? Starting at the end of the Clinton era, they were FORCED to make risky loans to basically anyone http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9C0DE7DB153EF933A0575AC0A96F958260&sec=&spon=&pagewanted=print

or else be fined according to arbitrary regulation http://www.antagoniste.net/2009/03/18/quand-letat-reglemente-iii/

REAL economists have seen the crisis coming since 2002 https://mises.org/library/fannie-mae-distorts-markets

and politicians who understand economics too https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFd8YluIVG4&list=LLnSX6xFtV8AdtfBtPnT2EVA&index=5

Also, believing that businesses do whatever they want is ludicrous. Without "faithful" customers a business goes bankrupt in no time.

You also failed to show me when "the great deregulation" happened

janus : Did you not read anything in the article I gave you?There only real economists to you because they agree with you,yet you ignore those who don't(i.e. the 170 that endorse Bernie Sanders).
I don't take Ron Paul seriously for reasons below:
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=f79_1326227512

Also Bernie Sanders saw the Recession coming:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/11/28/1453742/-5-Times-Bernie-Sanders-Foresaw-The-Future

Ludicrous?You obviously have not studied American history well.Why do you think the food industry is regulated?Because they did what they wanted prior to the Meat Inspection Act.

http://federal.laws.com/meat-inspection-act

I figured you'd look it up yourself,but here:
http://www.openthegovernment.org/sites/default/files/otg/dereg-timeline-2009-07.pdf

Supermatt6534 : I read the text and promptly dismissed it. It is written by Joseph Stiglitz, a Keynesian, i.e. NOT a real economist as defined here : http://bastiat.org/en/twisatwins.html. Besides he was COMPLETELY wrong about Mae and Mac not failing http://www.scribd.com/doc/135300304/Implications-of-the-New-Fannie-Mae-and-Freddie-Mac-Risk-based-Capital-Standard

As for Sanders predicting the crash, he did it as an astrologist would: without concrete evidence. The links I posted, on the other hand, clearly show an reasonable explanation as to WHY the crisis REALLY happened, i.e. government regulation like
easy mortgage requirements http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9C0DE7DB153EF933A0575AC0A96F958260&sec=&spon=&pagewanted=print
the community reinvestment act http://www.ffiec.gov/CRA/
equal credit opportunity act http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/edu/pubs/consumer/credit/cre15.shtm
Freddie Mac, Fannie Mae, the Federal reserve, etc.


And your not trusting Ron Paul because he wants to abolish the Fed shows you know nothing about purchasing power and inflation : 

Finally, your "study" can easily be debunked. NEVER, EVER has an economic crisis happened because of deregulation. No rational person would make so many blatant mistakes without being incentivized to do it. In fact, Austrians have seen coming ALL the major crises of the past 100 years https://mises.org/files/austrian-school-business-cycles-100-years-being-right-mark-thornton.

EVERY SINGLE regulation I can think of was passed in order to favor special interest, NOT public safety. It may have been sugarcoated that way, but it is a blatant lie. "The more laws there are, the more criminals it create," says a popular meme from a Roman politician (?)

janus : The link you provided doesn't work.Everything I can find lists him as an economist.

http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2010/05/dear-gop-fannie-mae-freddie-mac-cause-financial-crisis-subprime-mortgage-gse

I'm not going to respond to the article because the text shows up too small for me to make it out.
You honestly think Sanders made a bunch of random guesses & happened to be right?Highly unlikely.
I gave reason to why I didn't trust him & backed myself up on it(which I will do again).
http://www.pragcap.com/debunking-ron-pauls-talking-points/
Yet another link that does not work.
Deregulation does cause problems:
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/26/business/economy/26inquiry.html?_r=0
http://money.howstuffworks.com/10-effects-of-deregulation.htm
http://www.governmentisgood.com/articles.php?aid=8
You have yet to prove they are based on lies.

I think Hillary Clinton should get the Democratic nomination. I am not a feminist or anything, but I feel that it would be cool for America to finally have a female president. The previous voting into power was also very significant as Barack Obama was the first African-American president of the U.S. I don't know very much about politics and will be happy with anybody except for Donald Trump as president. 

RDay13 : I think people should vote for policies,not just to "make history".I don't think Hillary deserves to be the 1st woman president honestly.

Supermatt6534 : I see your point. I don't know very much about Hillary Clinton's policies, but have heard about the Benghazi scandals. My point is that I don't like some of the other candidates and would like to see a female president. 

RDay13 : Too many voted for Barack Obama because of his skin color, and looked what it gave us: the slowest recovery since World War II, participation rates at 38-year low, long-term unemployment that is still higher than when he took office and huge economic bubbles. Doing the same for Hillary would be equally foolish.

Granted, no one in the Republican field is much better. They are strong when talking about Second Amendment rights (but not fourth, for some reason), but they are as clueless about the economy - Trump wants to start a trade war with China.

Supermatt6534 : Saying that there has been deregulation is a lie. Please, show me when deregulation happened and how the economy became worse because of it

in the Federal Register https://regulatorystudies.columbian.gwu.edu/sites/regulatorystudies.columbian.gwu.edu/files/downloads/Pages-in-the-federal-register-2014.png

and in the Federal Code of Regulations 

RDay13 : I put a link to a video in the original post showing she is just a flip-flopper.


janus : I already gave you a link a couple posts back,you have yet to refute it.

Also this is what I found about Obama:
http://www.factcheck.org/2013/10/obamas-numbers-october-update/

I honestly think Obama was disappointing.He's more to the right than most would admit:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mike-shammas/obamas-second-term_b_3720893.html

& Hillary would be more so to the right:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/h-a-goodman/president-hillary-clinton_b_5525235.html

With a little luck, Clinton might actually end up going to prison: http://www.cnn.com/2016/01/19/politics/hillary-clinton-emails-server-classified-ig-report/index.html?sr=fbCNN012016hillary-clinton-emails-server-classified-ig-report0324AMVODtopLink&linkId=20507922

She's far too shady to let into office. I do hope that she goes to prison, because she broke the law and leaked highly classified info. Someone who does something so reckless doesn't belong in the oval office.

Rasenganfan2 : Dude, they are ALL crooks. The only difference is their political affiliation. Imagine for a second that a Republican had done the same. The media would all over that person and his / her career would have been over long ago.

janus : you're definitely not wrong, but now there is definitive proof that she broke the law in a big way. I think the odds of her being disqualified over this are pretty big to say the least. The Republicans are gonna have a field day with this