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Ehh... I really don't follow sports but hockey is my favorite. Havn't followed it recently but I like Avalanche (my home team) and Calgary the most. Has the season started? I'm in the dark lol but think I might go watch some games

My team use to be awesome had Patrick Roy, Peter Foresburg, Joe Sakic but those days are well over

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Ehh... I really don't follow sports but hockey is my favorite. Havn't followed it recently but I like Avalanche (my home team) and Calgary the most. Has the season started? I'm in the dark lol but think I might go watch some games

My team use to be awesome had Patrick Roy, Peter Foresburg, Joe Sakic but those days are well over

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oh . Oh well, I guess I can forgive you because you're a Calgary fan .

And yeah, the Avalance did have an awesome team. However with Sakic retiring and Smyth leaving for LA they are in total rebuild mode. The nice thing is that to rebuild is fairly easy. Sure there might be a season or 2 with a bad record but free agency and draft picks are usually enough to allow a team to build back up.

The season hasn't started.... I just started this thread on the opening of free agency (July 1) to get us talking about the next season. Games don't start until October (regular season) or mid-september for exhibition games.
oh . Oh well, I guess I can forgive you because you're a Calgary fan .

And yeah, the Avalance did have an awesome team. However with Sakic retiring and Smyth leaving for LA they are in total rebuild mode. The nice thing is that to rebuild is fairly easy. Sure there might be a season or 2 with a bad record but free agency and draft picks are usually enough to allow a team to build back up.

The season hasn't started.... I just started this thread on the opening of free agency (July 1) to get us talking about the next season. Games don't start until October (regular season) or mid-september for exhibition games.

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Wait, Hossa got a 12 YEAR DEAL?! How did I not hear about this? He's way too old for that kind of long-term deal. What were they thinking?
Wait, Hossa got a 12 YEAR DEAL?! How did I not hear about this? He's way too old for that kind of long-term deal. What were they thinking?

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I have no idea. It wasn't mentioned when he first signed.... it was just reported that he had signed with Chicago. But yeah, he's got a 12 year contract for 60+ million dollars... it's just over 5 million a year which per year isn't bad... I just can't believe they want him for 12 years.
I have no idea. It wasn't mentioned when he first signed.... it was just reported that he had signed with Chicago. But yeah, he's got a 12 year contract for 60+ million dollars... it's just over 5 million a year which per year isn't bad... I just can't believe they want him for 12 years.

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They won't even have him that long. I know he'll be done before that contract expires. Hopefully they wise up and restructure it, for their sake
They won't even have him that long. I know he'll be done before that contract expires. Hopefully they wise up and restructure it, for their sake

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they might... I just wouldn't want to be 3 season down the road trying to trade him off after he pulls a Gaborik and can't produce. Not that I think he will for sure, but 12 years is a long time to sign anyone....

although, I just remembered that they let Khabibulin (probably misspelled his name) go so that is like 7-8 million they just saved on his contract.... they're not as bad off as I was thinking.... but Toews and Kane are both going to get pretty large contracts soon.

http://www.sportscity.com/NHL/Chicago-Blackhawks-Salaries I think that is current. At least the players are.... they're pretty close to the cap.... I'm really not sure how they'll pay Toews and Kane along with the rest of that team. Something has got to give....
they might... I just wouldn't want to be 3 season down the road trying to trade him off after he pulls a Gaborik and can't produce. Not that I think he will for sure, but 12 years is a long time to sign anyone....

although, I just remembered that they let Khabibulin (probably misspelled his name) go so that is like 7-8 million they just saved on his contract.... they're not as bad off as I was thinking.... but Toews and Kane are both going to get pretty large contracts soon.

http://www.sportscity.com/NHL/Chicago-Blackhawks-Salaries I think that is current. At least the players are.... they're pretty close to the cap.... I'm really not sure how they'll pay Toews and Kane along with the rest of that team. Something has got to give....

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http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=457975

might be a problem with the Hossa contract.... it's pretty short but quite interesting. Apparently his contract starts off large and then gets smaller as he gets older (makes sense) but it sounds like if he retires early there could be a problem. Sounds like just at an investigative stage right now but there could be fairly severe penalties to the Hawks if this is done to circumvent the cap.

http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=457975

might be a problem with the Hossa contract.... it's pretty short but quite interesting. Apparently his contract starts off large and then gets smaller as he gets older (makes sense) but it sounds like if he retires early there could be a problem. Sounds like just at an investigative stage right now but there could be fairly severe penalties to the Hawks if this is done to circumvent the cap.



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Can't say I'm shocked , and they're probably gonna get in soe trouble. But let me get this straight, they'll be freeing up cap room greater than the money he'll receive in those years, which would mean they're getting extra cap room, correct?
Can't say I'm shocked , and they're probably gonna get in soe trouble. But let me get this straight, they'll be freeing up cap room greater than the money he'll receive in those years, which would mean they're getting extra cap room, correct?

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I'm not really sure what the big deal is now that I've read the article again. But when I added up the numbers they gave in the article he's going to make like 73 million, not 62.8 like the contract says....

7.9 for 7 years - 55.3 million
4 for year 8 - 4 million
3.5 for last 4 years - 14 million

that equals 73.3 million.... I'm not sure what the problem is here with those numbers... why I'm getting such a difference. But maybe this is the problem right here. He's getting the bulk of his money in 7 years and then he'll probably retire before the last few years are paying out which means the Hawks don't take the cap hit anymore and can sign someone else. The way the contract is built seems to make that the most likely thing that is going to happen. Either way I'm sure we'll hear about this at some point again whether the contract is bad and if the Hawks pay a penalty for it.
I'm not really sure what the big deal is now that I've read the article again. But when I added up the numbers they gave in the article he's going to make like 73 million, not 62.8 like the contract says....

7.9 for 7 years - 55.3 million
4 for year 8 - 4 million
3.5 for last 4 years - 14 million

that equals 73.3 million.... I'm not sure what the problem is here with those numbers... why I'm getting such a difference. But maybe this is the problem right here. He's getting the bulk of his money in 7 years and then he'll probably retire before the last few years are paying out which means the Hawks don't take the cap hit anymore and can sign someone else. The way the contract is built seems to make that the most likely thing that is going to happen. Either way I'm sure we'll hear about this at some point again whether the contract is bad and if the Hawks pay a penalty for it.

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Well, if they're doing what I think they're doing, then they probably will get a penalty
Well, if they're doing what I think they're doing, then they probably will get a penalty

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yeah, it really does look like something sneaky was done.... although they have to be pretty sure that this was done on purpose.

http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=433516&navid=DL|NHL|Home

this is a list of the major free agents still unsigned.... people that have actually played in the nhl already.

Any in the list that you would get, or think a certain team you follow should pick up? There are a couple guys in that list that I would pick up if I could get them for a good price. Calgary has no cap space or I'd offer up some suggestions for them....
yeah, it really does look like something sneaky was done.... although they have to be pretty sure that this was done on purpose.

http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=433516&navid=DL|NHL|Home

this is a list of the major free agents still unsigned.... people that have actually played in the nhl already.

Any in the list that you would get, or think a certain team you follow should pick up? There are a couple guys in that list that I would pick up if I could get them for a good price. Calgary has no cap space or I'd offer up some suggestions for them....

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I don't think that the Flyers are gonna make any moves, but there are some decent players out there. Tanguay might have had injury problems the last couple years, but he's pretty good when healthy, it seems. Satan is getting older, but I think he's still a decent player, even if he didn't have such a good year with the Pens. Like NHL.com, I think there was a chemistry problem
I don't think that the Flyers are gonna make any moves, but there are some decent players out there. Tanguay might have had injury problems the last couple years, but he's pretty good when healthy, it seems. Satan is getting older, but I think he's still a decent player, even if he didn't have such a good year with the Pens. Like NHL.com, I think there was a chemistry problem

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yeah, Satan would probably do well with any other team....

and Tanguay only had a bad season with Montreal... he was great when he was with Calgary, for the most part.

It seems a lot of players have good seasons in Calgary and then get signed for more than they are worth when their contracts are up. Oh well, our loss is someone else's salary cap hit
yeah, Satan would probably do well with any other team....

and Tanguay only had a bad season with Montreal... he was great when he was with Calgary, for the most part.

It seems a lot of players have good seasons in Calgary and then get signed for more than they are worth when their contracts are up. Oh well, our loss is someone else's salary cap hit

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http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=463425

Roenick is retiring.... I couldn't be happier.

I'm so tired of him. He's such an ass. I couldn't stand listening to his interviews or hearing about his off-ice antics... I'm just glad to see him go.
http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=463425

Roenick is retiring.... I couldn't be happier.

I'm so tired of him. He's such an ass. I couldn't stand listening to his interviews or hearing about his off-ice antics... I'm just glad to see him go.

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"I'm so tired of him. He's such an ass. I couldn't stand listening to his interviews or hearing about his off-ice antics... I'm just glad to see him go."

I completely agree, especially since he's an ex-Flyer
"I'm so tired of him. He's such an ass. I couldn't stand listening to his interviews or hearing about his off-ice antics... I'm just glad to see him go."

I completely agree, especially since he's an ex-Flyer

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