Originally posted by John

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Yes, christian, jewish, and muslum gods are the same

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Refer to my last comment. No they are not. The Christian God does not harm people. We do not have the same god as muslems and I dont think you believe in a god seeing as how you have a lowercase g.

i hate to burst your bubble sandy but really how much do you know about muslims do you just think that muslim god says kill everyone or do you just say that because alot of the radicalist in the middle east are killing people and happen to be muslim???

No, I have nothing against Muslims. I have Muslim friends. But I know there religion. They believe if something bad happends Allah wanted it to happen. And the christian God is the only one who is for love not harm.

Allah/any other god = Destruction

Christian God = Loving, Caring God.

Keep it up I will bring Robots.

well actually that does not mean he wants destruction if anything they are for the same thing cause if something bad happens in chritianity they have the same philosophy lol i goto church every sunday and study muslim religion sometimes. that is one simularity to be honest. Muslims also are more comunity oriented and want the rich to donate to the poor and hope for the poor to get wealthy and do the same thats something you do not see in chritianity. I mean in the quaran thats actually exactly what they say. But in the bible it does not say that it may have gray area that could mean that but it does not say that.

Woah woah woah.... Hold on now... Now you are saying Christians do not donate money to the poor. You must live in Clevland. Because everywhere I have seen Christians always donate. I am not saying that other religions dont but you better get that fact straight that we DO in fact donate. You know how many donations christians set up? I know someone on TBN (Trinity broadcasting Network) That paid for a $23 MILLION dollar hospital in Ethiopia. Not only do we donate we help and organize community gatherings. I (as a christian) Vulunteer and shovel peoples driveways just to do good deeds. Now you need to look at what you said.

And I am bringing the robots...

Killer Japanese Seizure Robots!

OMG. David, glenn, mike!!! Where is Mr. Ryan when you need him?!?!?

OMG Where is Kent Hovind, Benny Hinn, Joel Osteen when you need them. OMFG!!! Buttworms.

lol i did not say they do not donate to the poor lol i said it is not actually written in the bible to give to the poor. Sigh if you want to argure pay attention. it is actually written in the Quran to give to the poor and i did not say christian is the bad way i know some of there funding goes to the poor for cring out loud i goto church how many times do i need to say that i mean i give to the offering and i know what it goes to it goes to church finances and the poor and other needs like loans. The only things you see about giving to the poor is examples its not written in the ten commandments or anything like that.

Yeah it is out of the kindness of our heart.

ok arguing like that is not going to get u anywhere im serious ur not listening to what i am Saying Does it say that you have to give to the poor for the cause so they can get wealthy and then does it say for the poor when wealthy to give to the poor. It does not it says kindness of our heart according to you.
That is like the ammendments it has so much gray area i dont know even where to begin.

Ok since you are not getting what I am saying... let me ask you this... What is it you believe? state your posisition clearly.

well this is an openminde forum so i am going to help the muslim side but i do believe in god. i am baptist but i am not going to let people say that there god is the god of destuction. because thats not openminded, also just because your friends are muslims does not mean you know enough about islam

No, but I could reverse this and say neither do you. You really wanna debate? Call my church.

And there are several gods. And if you actually believe it, its usually capitalized.

you think i care if its capalized i dont even have any paragraph structure or correct grammar lol and 2nd how am i not being openminded i am not saying christianity is bad and i dont care what you are saying i am not saying one religion is superior and leaving it at that when the only information source you have is the church i have the church the books i read and everything like that i forget the technical term but i belive there is a god just not sure but i am leaning towards chritianity. ok and 3rd why is it that you think i am tring to help the muslim side... well because it has the same values the only difference is that the people who follow it some of them are radicalist and plan terroism but there are also chritian terrorist

This article is from a website
Christian Terrorist Let Off Lightly
Stephen John Jordi has been sentenced to five years in federal prison for plotting to fire bomb abortion clinics, churches he disagree with and gay bars. The government recommended more time, but the judge decided that Jordi didn't qualify as a terrorist. Had he been a Muslim plotting to blow up synagogues and other buildings, you know the decision would have been different.

The Bradenton Herald (via Culture Wars) reports:

Stephen John Jordi, who was turned in by relatives and church members, received the minimum mandatory sentence. U.S. District Judge James Cohn rejected a prosecution request for a prison term of seven to 10 years. The judge said federal sentencing rules require that plots have an international component to be considered terrorism. ... Jordi, a former Army Ranger, pleaded guilty in February to attempted arson of an abortion clinic in exchange for prosecutors dropping charges of spreading explosive information and possessing an unregistered firearm.

Jordi told the informant that he planned to carry out the bombings for 30 to 40 years or until he was caught, a comment that left the judge "troubled" that Jordi's "very strong convictions" might make him dangerous after his release. Jordi corresponded with Paul Hill, who was executed last September for murdering a Pensacola abortion doctor and his volunteer escort

Even Chuck Spingola, an apologist for anti-abortion violence, sees the close similarities between Christian and Muslim terrorism:

The federal department of justice’s “war on terrorism” will not only be waged against the Muslims nations but also Christian terrorists in our homeland. One might ask what do the Muslims and Christians have in common? The Holy Bible and Koran both condemn baby murder and homosexuality as capital crimes. The radical elements of both religions are willing to do more than talk to resist the societal promotion of both these capital crimes. The foreign terrorists (Muslim) resist the imposition of the United States/United Nations charter, which promotes “population control”(abortion) and “diversity”(homosexuality), while the Christian/domestic terrorist simply resists the “law” of the land, which promotes and often subsidizes abortion and homosexuality.

Now, in 2001, 30% of the Feds ten most wanted are notoriously listed as criminals for defending womb children from their paid assassins. Magistrates and their government agencies must be “able men, such as fear God, men of truth, hating covetousness;” Exod 18:21 (KJV). Civil and military leaders who meet these qualifications have been, for the most part, purged from positions of leadership in the United States of America at an accelerated rate over the past 15 years. Judge Roy Moore is a prime example of this. ... Considering what Romans chapter 13 has to say about rulers it could logically be concluded that the Christian terrorists Waggner, Rudolph, Kopp etc. qualify as “minister(s) of God” more so than America’s Department of “Justice” and its subsequent agencies.

There seems to be a certain level of denial in government circles about the seriousness of Christian terrorism in America. Only international terrorism committed by Muslims seems to matter — domestic terrorism committed on account of abortion or white supremacy are investigated, of course, but they are given the same high-level attention. Why?

now the thing was the source was from an aetheist website but its a true story. now let me ask u this for u to say allah is being a god of destructure tell me why you say this.

OMG YOU TOTALLY MISS THE POINT!!!!!!!

Let me help!

ALLAH IS NOT GOD
YOU
TOTALLY
MISS
THE
POINT!!!!!!!!!!

I never said Christianity is correct. But when you say the God I believe in is the same as Allah it really pisses me off because he isnt. I could have you talk to many resources if you would like.

Isn't Allah a muslim word for God?

sigh i said there are some simularities gahhh you need to pay attention then i said they have differences
my exact words is they have the same aspect of god. lol john said they are the same.

You people *cough* sandy *cough* are rather ignorant. Since no one is going to listen to my FACTS!!!!! I'm done with you ignorant people. Because muhamed is a profit of god, so is jesus. THEY COME FROM THE SAME GOD. Some people follow muhamed some follow jesus. But it is important to remember that they come from the same god. Lemme break it down one more time... Both profits. 1 god. 1 is a real profit, the other is crazy.

Originally posted by John

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You people *cough* sandy *cough* are rather ignorant.

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Do you think that is ignorant? What about this...



And seriously you need to study religion more.

ok no flaming both of you ok two who are you talkin to Sandy cause i know my religions.