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Are TP being unfairly given to user that don't deserve or earn them?

 

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I know before this system, it was basically a popularity contest. I believe this system works better, but it not quite perfect. I like how it is set up. I just think one thing should be changed: wether you rate somebody up or down, you should have to submit a short report about why, and then somebody would review it.
I know before this system, it was basically a popularity contest. I believe this system works better, but it not quite perfect. I like how it is set up. I just think one thing should be changed: wether you rate somebody up or down, you should have to submit a short report about why, and then somebody would review it.

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thing1 : I really like that idea, its a good way to keep things fair. And it would save people who have worked hard to gain that trust from being judged wrongly.
thing1 : I really like that idea, its a good way to keep things fair. And it would save people who have worked hard to gain that trust from being judged wrongly.

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It is good, but perhaps several people have to review it, and if the majority agrees then it happens? Or maybe a fraction of the point goes through based on how many agree.
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"Are TP being unfairly given to user that don't deserve or earn them?"

TP are in the eyes of the beholders.

Unfortunately, TOO many people are trusted, and all it takes are a couple of idiots to make someone trusted.

Solution?

Only mods can give or take TP. Take everyone else out of it.

That's the only way anyone will ever be happy.

Truthfully, I think 90% of the people to post in this thread don't deserve TP.

That's why I don't give them TP.
"Are TP being unfairly given to user that don't deserve or earn them?"

TP are in the eyes of the beholders.

Unfortunately, TOO many people are trusted, and all it takes are a couple of idiots to make someone trusted.

Solution?

Only mods can give or take TP. Take everyone else out of it.

That's the only way anyone will ever be happy.

Truthfully, I think 90% of the people to post in this thread don't deserve TP.

That's why I don't give them TP.

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legacyme3 : as much as it pains me to say this some mods play favorites and abuse thier authority so that idea would be rather useless
legacyme3 : as much as it pains me to say this some mods play favorites and abuse thier authority so that idea would be rather useless

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marcushoward :

Then get rid of the system entirely, and there are no trusted users.

Because if you can't trust the most trusted members, you can't trust anyone. trufax.

So either there is no problem, or the problem is the people who complain. It's one of the two. Take your pick.
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Then get rid of the system entirely, and there are no trusted users.

Because if you can't trust the most trusted members, you can't trust anyone. trufax.

So either there is no problem, or the problem is the people who complain. It's one of the two. Take your pick.

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legacyme3 : Clearly there must be a problem otherwise this thread wouldn't exist. And there are many trusted members who can be trusted, and it is those ones that deserve the trust points that they have.
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tails the fox :

Apparently, you didn't read.

There is no problem. It's how the system was designed.

If you don't like it, fine, then don't use it.

But there's no way for it to change that will result in everyone being happy. It's had a couple makeovers and people still b****.
tails the fox :

Apparently, you didn't read.

There is no problem. It's how the system was designed.

If you don't like it, fine, then don't use it.

But there's no way for it to change that will result in everyone being happy. It's had a couple makeovers and people still b****.

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legacyme3 : Then we have to find a system that makes the largest majority happy. Theres many where no system that could possibly exist will please them. And things have to appeal to as many as possible to be good.
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Well this thread was enjoyable while it lasted but do to swaring and a possiblity of flamming.    Local Mods :close this 
Well this thread was enjoyable while it lasted but do to swaring and a possiblity of flamming.    Local Mods :close this 

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tails the fox :

See that's the problem.

The majority IS happy. The only people not happy are the ones who will find fault with everything that isn't "their" way, and the ones who live just to complain.

The system isn't perfect.

The system will never be perfect.

It's just how it is, and people will always complain about the feature.
tails the fox :

See that's the problem.

The majority IS happy. The only people not happy are the ones who will find fault with everything that isn't "their" way, and the ones who live just to complain.

The system isn't perfect.

The system will never be perfect.

It's just how it is, and people will always complain about the feature.

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I think trust points should be given to members who post a lot, and are responsible, don't spam, don't start a flame war. There are quit a few members who are good, and to me trustworthy, but they are not trusted. I don't deserve trust points because I don't make that many threads, or reply that much, but I see that some users are here all the time, and are still not trusted. I just don't understand how some respectable members are not trusted yet. 
I think trust points should be given to members who post a lot, and are responsible, don't spam, don't start a flame war. There are quit a few members who are good, and to me trustworthy, but they are not trusted. I don't deserve trust points because I don't make that many threads, or reply that much, but I see that some users are here all the time, and are still not trusted. I just don't understand how some respectable members are not trusted yet. 

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legacyme3 : I even said the system was not perfect... XD Granted, in my opinion, it is the best one we have had so far since I have joined the site, but still, I think it is the most fair. But if the "review board" was put into place, I think the current system would be just a tad bit better... and by the way, 
tails the fox : that is a good idea... have more than one person vote on it... And majority wins. I like that.
legacyme3 : I even said the system was not perfect... XD Granted, in my opinion, it is the best one we have had so far since I have joined the site, but still, I think it is the most fair. But if the "review board" was put into place, I think the current system would be just a tad bit better... and by the way, 
tails the fox : that is a good idea... have more than one person vote on it... And majority wins. I like that.

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legacyme3 : It's not so much the system that is a problem, but more how users use it. Abuse can be a bad thing as it can escalate, especially with trust points. It hasn't affected the board a lot, but I don't like that it can.
    legacyme3 : It's not so much the system that is a problem, but more how users use it. Abuse can be a bad thing as it can escalate, especially with trust points. It hasn't affected the board a lot, but I don't like that it can.

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tails the fox :

Then no one should ever blame the system.

And if it really is "the people" then the problem is not getting fixed. In fact, it will only get worse as more people join the site.

Like I said, that just shows the lack of a problem, and just people not happy with how things are, because it doesn't benefit them the way they want.
tails the fox :

Then no one should ever blame the system.

And if it really is "the people" then the problem is not getting fixed. In fact, it will only get worse as more people join the site.

Like I said, that just shows the lack of a problem, and just people not happy with how things are, because it doesn't benefit them the way they want.

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legacyme3 : This discussion is clearly bothering you. Maybe this thread should be closed. I have been here for years (Which really makes my post count look dreadful) and the system has never bothered me, despite how beneficial it has been to me.
    legacyme3 : This discussion is clearly bothering you. Maybe this thread should be closed. I have been here for years (Which really makes my post count look dreadful) and the system has never bothered me, despite how beneficial it has been to me.

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legacyme3: yeah, I am happy with the way this system is. I believe it is a lot more fair than the previous one, but at the same time, I can see where everybody is coming from. Only staff can downgrade? I agree with that, and I don't agree with it. But anybody can rate up? Hmmmm.... I don't know. I like how it is, so I will leave it at that before I confuse myself with my thoughts.
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tails the fox :

That's the thing. It's not bothering me so much as it's just drudging up a lot of crap that's been said over and over.

Regurgitated bullcrap is irritating, especially when I try to make an argument for how this site still has interesting topics to other people.

And this entire discussion has been that. Which is why I'm saying people should stop complaining about something that is fine.

thing1 :

Truthfully, I wanted a system where only mods would up or downvote.

But this isn't about me
tails the fox :

That's the thing. It's not bothering me so much as it's just drudging up a lot of crap that's been said over and over.

Regurgitated bullcrap is irritating, especially when I try to make an argument for how this site still has interesting topics to other people.

And this entire discussion has been that. Which is why I'm saying people should stop complaining about something that is fine.

thing1 :

Truthfully, I wanted a system where only mods would up or downvote.

But this isn't about me

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