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Sony and Microsoft in danger?

 
Could we see the demise of the Playstation and/or X-box?
Yes, both are in danger
 
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Yes, the X-box is in danger
 
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Yes, the Playstation is in danger
 
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No, they're not going anywhere anytime soon
 
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It's been said that the future of gaming consoles depends on the success of the PS4, and X-box 720. Some are suggesting that the smart phone and tablet gaming industries (if you can even call them that) have put these consoles in a bad way, and could be their demise. Supposedly, many people would rather have the convenience of games on their phone or tablet, than on a high end game on a console. Is convenience really valued over quality?

I myself would never take these dime a dozen mobile games over a console. I mean, I've found some pretty awesome mobile games (Even EA is making them), but none that I would rather play over a good console game. but what do you think? Is this generation of consoles a do or die, last ditch effort by these companies?
It's been said that the future of gaming consoles depends on the success of the PS4, and X-box 720. Some are suggesting that the smart phone and tablet gaming industries (if you can even call them that) have put these consoles in a bad way, and could be their demise. Supposedly, many people would rather have the convenience of games on their phone or tablet, than on a high end game on a console. Is convenience really valued over quality?

I myself would never take these dime a dozen mobile games over a console. I mean, I've found some pretty awesome mobile games (Even EA is making them), but none that I would rather play over a good console game. but what do you think? Is this generation of consoles a do or die, last ditch effort by these companies?
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Naw... they aren't going anywhere. You see how well the XBOX 360 and PS4 are doing, right? It's only going to get more hectic once the 720 and the 4 come out.
Naw... they aren't going anywhere. You see how well the XBOX 360 and PS4 are doing, right? It's only going to get more hectic once the 720 and the 4 come out.
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I don't think so. They will be fine for another decade. Maybe after the next generation consoles are getting old, but as of now, they have no problem. You should be worrying about Nintendo. Poor nintendo, they are still under Sony and Microsoft. So sad to see that the greatest company ever is just struggling.
I don't think so. They will be fine for another decade. Maybe after the next generation consoles are getting old, but as of now, they have no problem. You should be worrying about Nintendo. Poor nintendo, they are still under Sony and Microsoft. So sad to see that the greatest company ever is just struggling.
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True enough. Nintendo needs some fresh ideas. They've just about ridden the whole wii idea to death. Now every console makes a motion sensor device. That said, It would be sad to see Nintendo fall as well.

As for Sony and Microsoft, I fully expect the PS4 and Xbox 720 to be big hits. They did more than just improve the graphics this time.
True enough. Nintendo needs some fresh ideas. They've just about ridden the whole wii idea to death. Now every console makes a motion sensor device. That said, It would be sad to see Nintendo fall as well.

As for Sony and Microsoft, I fully expect the PS4 and Xbox 720 to be big hits. They did more than just improve the graphics this time.
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Sony's last stand will be the PS4, and at this point it isn't looking very impressive.

Microsoft and Nintendo are both set financially to make consoles for as long as they want.

The PC is by far superior, just a lot more expensive to maintain and build.

Consoles are a bit overrated nowadays, because it feels like they're just holding back video games technologically speaking.
Sony's last stand will be the PS4, and at this point it isn't looking very impressive.

Microsoft and Nintendo are both set financially to make consoles for as long as they want.

The PC is by far superior, just a lot more expensive to maintain and build.

Consoles are a bit overrated nowadays, because it feels like they're just holding back video games technologically speaking.
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alexanyways : What makes you say that (PS4 will be Sony's last stand)?
alexanyways : What makes you say that (PS4 will be Sony's last stand)?
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Sony lost 500 million dollars last year, and their stock dropped over 20 dollars in the last 2 years. Now it's at 8 dollars or somewhere close to that. They're slowly dying, and putting their last bit of money into the PS4. The entire company's welfare depends on whether or not the PS4 sells.
Sony lost 500 million dollars last year, and their stock dropped over 20 dollars in the last 2 years. Now it's at 8 dollars or somewhere close to that. They're slowly dying, and putting their last bit of money into the PS4. The entire company's welfare depends on whether or not the PS4 sells.
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I say they are both in trouble. Because the smart phone and tablet games just keep having more and more addictive features that can be made even more addictive if paying a small fee that millions pay. People will ignore console games and go to PC/Tablet/Smart phone games.
I say they are both in trouble. Because the smart phone and tablet games just keep having more and more addictive features that can be made even more addictive if paying a small fee that millions pay. People will ignore console games and go to PC/Tablet/Smart phone games.
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No I don't think they are in danger but I do think they are running out of good idea's, because lets face facts, the systems they come out with do the exact same things as the one before except they add on my one or two features and call it new. For an example I have the 1st xbox 360 to come out( the white arcade one) and the format on it is the one from the new black one.
No I don't think they are in danger but I do think they are running out of good idea's, because lets face facts, the systems they come out with do the exact same things as the one before except they add on my one or two features and call it new. For an example I have the 1st xbox 360 to come out( the white arcade one) and the format on it is the one from the new black one.
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alexanyways : I was unaware that Sony was losing money. It'll be a sad day when Sony falls. Hopefully that won't happen. I wouldn't care if the Xbox tanked though. lol

BluemageKyle : I can understand your point as well, but I don't see how these platforms can compete with the newer game consoles. Granted, they have some pretty awesome Tablet/Smartphone games, and even pc games, but there are some serious restrictions to those. Mainly memory and file size issues. For example: look at a Super Nintendo Rom, they are at most 1 MB and some change, and compare another game of the same quality as that SNES Rom, say (my favorite) Zenonia 3, it's 11.82 MB. For some reason, these non emulator games take up 3-4 times the memory. And even if they find a way around that, we still have the problem that 1). the average person doesn't have a pc specifically for game storage, so that cuts back on how many games they can store. And 2). With people wanting games like CoD and Halo, those files are insanely large, and the average person could probably only store two or three games that size at a time. So if they buy a new game, they'd have to delete another game that they have, in order to make room for the new one. Whereas now, we can just swap discs in and out.

Sorry if I sounded like I was attacking your view. I was not. I am actually trying to see if I'm missing something. I've already ran those exact thoughts through my head, and am honestly wanting them not to be true. lol If you have any input as to where my logic is wrong, I would greatly appreciate hearing it.
alexanyways : I was unaware that Sony was losing money. It'll be a sad day when Sony falls. Hopefully that won't happen. I wouldn't care if the Xbox tanked though. lol

BluemageKyle : I can understand your point as well, but I don't see how these platforms can compete with the newer game consoles. Granted, they have some pretty awesome Tablet/Smartphone games, and even pc games, but there are some serious restrictions to those. Mainly memory and file size issues. For example: look at a Super Nintendo Rom, they are at most 1 MB and some change, and compare another game of the same quality as that SNES Rom, say (my favorite) Zenonia 3, it's 11.82 MB. For some reason, these non emulator games take up 3-4 times the memory. And even if they find a way around that, we still have the problem that 1). the average person doesn't have a pc specifically for game storage, so that cuts back on how many games they can store. And 2). With people wanting games like CoD and Halo, those files are insanely large, and the average person could probably only store two or three games that size at a time. So if they buy a new game, they'd have to delete another game that they have, in order to make room for the new one. Whereas now, we can just swap discs in and out.

Sorry if I sounded like I was attacking your view. I was not. I am actually trying to see if I'm missing something. I've already ran those exact thoughts through my head, and am honestly wanting them not to be true. lol If you have any input as to where my logic is wrong, I would greatly appreciate hearing it.
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I consider it to be a media fabrication in some stupid way to enhance the sales in the industry.
Obviously, all the non-gamers are going to say they'd prefer to be able to play their games on their cell phones.
(I think that's where they're getting most of their numbers from)
There will always be consoles and handhelds.
I consider it to be a media fabrication in some stupid way to enhance the sales in the industry.
Obviously, all the non-gamers are going to say they'd prefer to be able to play their games on their cell phones.
(I think that's where they're getting most of their numbers from)
There will always be consoles and handhelds.
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AmpJack : I agree. The idea that tablets and cell phones would replace consoles and hand helds doesn't sound realistic to me, but I could be wrong. I hope I'm not.
AmpJack : I agree. The idea that tablets and cell phones would replace consoles and hand helds doesn't sound realistic to me, but I could be wrong. I hope I'm not.
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Eirinn : Sony's stock is actually at a healthy 17 USD and expected to at least double.
Nintendo's is near 14 and while lower than Sony's, has proved to be more stable. (And relies on the gaming industry alone, while it's competitors does not)
Microsoft's at a whopping 28, but I think that's mainly because of Windows.
Of course stock prices are constantly changing, but it's easy to find the info and averages.

So I don't think there's any real danger at all to the console based gaming industry.
Eirinn : Sony's stock is actually at a healthy 17 USD and expected to at least double.
Nintendo's is near 14 and while lower than Sony's, has proved to be more stable. (And relies on the gaming industry alone, while it's competitors does not)
Microsoft's at a whopping 28, but I think that's mainly because of Windows.
Of course stock prices are constantly changing, but it's easy to find the info and averages.

So I don't think there's any real danger at all to the console based gaming industry.
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I was told the Xbox 720 was going to burn something in to your game so it will only work on the one that burned the thing in to it, which makes it so you can't buy used games. That will be a BIG problem, plus what happens if your Xbox breaks? Your games become practically useless. I think the Xbox is going down, not the playstation.
I was told the Xbox 720 was going to burn something in to your game so it will only work on the one that burned the thing in to it, which makes it so you can't buy used games. That will be a BIG problem, plus what happens if your Xbox breaks? Your games become practically useless. I think the Xbox is going down, not the playstation.
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zelda2 : If that rumor ends up being true, it would be the doom of Microsoft in the gaming industry.
Though it does come from a rather reputable source, I just can't believe that Marketing at Microsoft would
be so stupid as to watermark their discs like that. Pretty sure that'd cripple the system.
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Though it does come from a rather reputable source, I just can't believe that Marketing at Microsoft would
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zelda2 : I have to agree, if they do that, they are signing the 720's death certificate. Also if the release date is accurate, releasing late may be a bad idea too. How many people are going to buy a PS4 for their kids etc. for Christmas, because it's the new console? And it's not like everyone will buy the 720 as soon as it hits the shelves. Instead many will choose to wait until the price drops and more titles come out. By that time, the PS4 will have alot more credibility, assuming it succeeds. I think there are alot of people who like both the xbox and Playstation, who will opt to get the PS4 simply because it came out first.
zelda2 : I have to agree, if they do that, they are signing the 720's death certificate. Also if the release date is accurate, releasing late may be a bad idea too. How many people are going to buy a PS4 for their kids etc. for Christmas, because it's the new console? And it's not like everyone will buy the 720 as soon as it hits the shelves. Instead many will choose to wait until the price drops and more titles come out. By that time, the PS4 will have alot more credibility, assuming it succeeds. I think there are alot of people who like both the xbox and Playstation, who will opt to get the PS4 simply because it came out first.
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Yeah, you guys both make good points. I for one, suggest you just get a good pc and stick with it. Windows 7 will never let you down! Windows 8 though... =_=
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Yeah, you guys both make good points. I for one, suggest you just get a good pc and stick with it. Windows 7 will never let you down! Windows 8 though... =_=
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I have hear the same thing as you, Eirinn. I agree with you on playing a good quality console game rather than a small little game on a tablet. The dissapointing part is that pop culture today does choose quantity over quality. It may be the way things turn but I don't want to be playing games on a touch screen. I would much rather have a controller in my hands.
I have hear the same thing as you, Eirinn. I agree with you on playing a good quality console game rather than a small little game on a tablet. The dissapointing part is that pop culture today does choose quantity over quality. It may be the way things turn but I don't want to be playing games on a touch screen. I would much rather have a controller in my hands.
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MoblinGardens : Good point. I have 300 ROMs of NES, SNES, etc. on my phone, and though they are fun, it's not the same with touch screen controls as it is with a controller. Not to mention the overall experience just isn't quite the same.
MoblinGardens : Good point. I have 300 ROMs of NES, SNES, etc. on my phone, and though they are fun, it's not the same with touch screen controls as it is with a controller. Not to mention the overall experience just isn't quite the same.
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