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05-22-12 03:33 PM
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13 years old is the new age minimum for chat room

Following discussions by the staff, it has been decided that 13 will be the new minimum age for chat (except immature and guest). This is in accordance with COPPA (the Childrens Online Privacy Protection Act -

What are your views on the COPPA ACT?

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13 years old is the new age minimum for chat room

Following discussions by the staff, it has been decided that 13 will be the new minimum age for chat (except immature and guest). This is in accordance with COPPA (the Childrens Online Privacy Protection Act -

What are your views on the COPPA ACT?

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The COPPA is safe to protect people under 13, but now I can't chat anymore until my birthday! I will agree with the COPPA a little, not much since I loved to vizzed chat, and now I can't enter the rooms except for the immature and guest rooms without getting kicked or banned, also, the guest and the immature rooms are inactive most of the time so I will miss chat a lot!
The COPPA is safe to protect people under 13, but now I can't chat anymore until my birthday! I will agree with the COPPA a little, not much since I loved to vizzed chat, and now I can't enter the rooms except for the immature and guest rooms without getting kicked or banned, also, the guest and the immature rooms are inactive most of the time so I will miss chat a lot!
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05-22-12 04:43 PM
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Personally I'm not a huge fan of parenting peoples kids, or censorship. I think that if the parents paid attention to what they were doing online, being in a chat room wouldn't be that big of a deal.

That being said, if this is a situation where there will be a chat room for kids, and one for adults, that would be ok. I just think it wouldn't be a good idea to alienate a big portion of the membership base.
Personally I'm not a huge fan of parenting peoples kids, or censorship. I think that if the parents paid attention to what they were doing online, being in a chat room wouldn't be that big of a deal.

That being said, if this is a situation where there will be a chat room for kids, and one for adults, that would be ok. I just think it wouldn't be a good idea to alienate a big portion of the membership base.
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05-22-12 05:51 PM
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Jordanv78 :

There is a kids room. It's called immature chat.

A lot of people seem to have a misunderstanding of COPPA... it's not to prevent them from coming in, it's more to make sure parents are aware of what they are doing. We don't want kids under 13 just randomly giving away information away, because it's technically not legal for us to "gather" it without expressed written consent by their legal guardian.

Since there is no real way we can get written consent from parents... we just chose to go about it this way, and bar children under 13 from the majority of the chat rooms.
Jordanv78 :

There is a kids room. It's called immature chat.

A lot of people seem to have a misunderstanding of COPPA... it's not to prevent them from coming in, it's more to make sure parents are aware of what they are doing. We don't want kids under 13 just randomly giving away information away, because it's technically not legal for us to "gather" it without expressed written consent by their legal guardian.

Since there is no real way we can get written consent from parents... we just chose to go about it this way, and bar children under 13 from the majority of the chat rooms.
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I am banned from the Vizzed Chat Room for absolutely no apparent reason.
I am banned from the Vizzed Chat Room for absolutely no apparent reason.
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ProGamer135 :

You aren't old enough, and you kept trying to go in general chat. A room you weren't allowed in.

Deal with it.
ProGamer135 :

You aren't old enough, and you kept trying to go in general chat. A room you weren't allowed in.

Deal with it.
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legacyme3 : Is it necessary for you to act rude against me? You constantly exclaim to me, "Deal with it," or you name me an idiot. What have I ever committed to you that creates rude emotions against me? Plus, I've only entered General Chat three times for approximately four minutes. How about you deal with this!?
legacyme3 : Is it necessary for you to act rude against me? You constantly exclaim to me, "Deal with it," or you name me an idiot. What have I ever committed to you that creates rude emotions against me? Plus, I've only entered General Chat three times for approximately four minutes. How about you deal with this!?
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I am really really mad about this stupid rule.........I LOVE the chat room and I think this is really stupid. Goodbye chat until 13!
I am really really mad about this stupid rule.........I LOVE the chat room and I think this is really stupid. Goodbye chat until 13!
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ProGamer135 : Here is the reason, you aren't old enough to go into any room, if you are the same age as me, you could enter the kids room and the guess chat/help room. Since the age restriction for the chat rooms is 13+ except for the kids room and the help room, those 2 room restrictions are 12+, it prevents younger people from entering chat for safety. So if you wanted to enter a room, you will have to wait for your birthday. Sorry, there isn't anything that I can do. When you become 13, then you will be able to finally OFFICALY enter chat. Hope it cleared that.
ProGamer135 : Here is the reason, you aren't old enough to go into any room, if you are the same age as me, you could enter the kids room and the guess chat/help room. Since the age restriction for the chat rooms is 13+ except for the kids room and the help room, those 2 room restrictions are 12+, it prevents younger people from entering chat for safety. So if you wanted to enter a room, you will have to wait for your birthday. Sorry, there isn't anything that I can do. When you become 13, then you will be able to finally OFFICALY enter chat. Hope it cleared that.
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05-22-12 06:02 PM
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ProGamer135:

Stop acting like an entitled brat.

There is nothing you can do about it. It is the LAW. I am not breaking the LAW for you.

Seriously, just deal with it.
ProGamer135:

Stop acting like an entitled brat.

There is nothing you can do about it. It is the LAW. I am not breaking the LAW for you.

Seriously, just deal with it.
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Stevie 764 : I have already agreed with the safety policy. What I am seriously and constantly pissed off is legacyme3 is constantly rude to me.
Stevie 764 : I have already agreed with the safety policy. What I am seriously and constantly pissed off is legacyme3 is constantly rude to me.
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I understand the "Law" but don't we collect some of that information when people sign up to become a member of the website? I'm not trying to be difficult, I'm just wondering.

"The Children's Online Privacy Protection Act and Rule apply to individually identifiable information about a child that is collected online, such as full name, home address, email address, telephone number or any other information that would allow someone to identify or contact the child. The Act and Rule also cover other types of information -- for example, hobbies, interests and information collected through cookies or other types of tracking mechanisms -- when they are tied to individually identifiable information."

http://www.coppa.org/comply.htm

I understand the "Law" but don't we collect some of that information when people sign up to become a member of the website? I'm not trying to be difficult, I'm just wondering.

"The Children's Online Privacy Protection Act and Rule apply to individually identifiable information about a child that is collected online, such as full name, home address, email address, telephone number or any other information that would allow someone to identify or contact the child. The Act and Rule also cover other types of information -- for example, hobbies, interests and information collected through cookies or other types of tracking mechanisms -- when they are tied to individually identifiable information."

http://www.coppa.org/comply.htm

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Jordanv78 :

Yes. And we really shouldn't. However there is little that can be done about it.

Within the rules, we have to emphasize that no one will be discriminated against by age. It'd be rectified with simply adding a checkbox for those under 13 that says they have parental consent to join... but David is busy.

I'm not being indignant. I'm simply stating what the rules are. Someone has to be the no nonsense person who tells everyone how it is. There is no room for joking when it comes to this.
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Yes. And we really shouldn't. However there is little that can be done about it.

Within the rules, we have to emphasize that no one will be discriminated against by age. It'd be rectified with simply adding a checkbox for those under 13 that says they have parental consent to join... but David is busy.

I'm not being indignant. I'm simply stating what the rules are. Someone has to be the no nonsense person who tells everyone how it is. There is no room for joking when it comes to this.
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legacyme3 : Understood. I just didn't understand why you seemed irritated but I edited it out when I realized that you had an ongoing thing with another user, so my fault.

legacyme3 : Understood. I just didn't understand why you seemed irritated but I edited it out when I realized that you had an ongoing thing with another user, so my fault.

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Jordanv78 :

It's not a problem. I'm a little irritated, but who wouldn't be in my situation

My job right now is to explain to little kids in words they understand, why they cannot go in chat until they are 13.
Jordanv78 :

It's not a problem. I'm a little irritated, but who wouldn't be in my situation

My job right now is to explain to little kids in words they understand, why they cannot go in chat until they are 13.
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I just caught someone re-registering.

When you get kicked from chat for being too young, do NOT make a new account and lie about your age. That's against the rules, and will lead to a ban.

Yes, it IS against the rules. Deal with it.
I just caught someone re-registering.

When you get kicked from chat for being too young, do NOT make a new account and lie about your age. That's against the rules, and will lead to a ban.

Yes, it IS against the rules. Deal with it.
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Well it's the least they can do since that younger people these days are being stalked or cyber-bullied by strangers....
Well it's the least they can do since that younger people these days are being stalked or cyber-bullied by strangers....
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Well I think it's fine that that is the minimum age.

I can't say I haven't seen kids the age of 9 or even 10 saying stupid things and just ruining chat for everyone.

I can also understand the fact how we have to protect the kids that go on here. Some of the things talked about on there can get a little out of hand.

And obviously the people re-registering have no idea what this whole thing is about and think we're just being un-fair.

Well I think it's fine that that is the minimum age.

I can't say I haven't seen kids the age of 9 or even 10 saying stupid things and just ruining chat for everyone.

I can also understand the fact how we have to protect the kids that go on here. Some of the things talked about on there can get a little out of hand.

And obviously the people re-registering have no idea what this whole thing is about and think we're just being un-fair.

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Sounds fair to me... Internet is a dangerous place. Even if a good part of us are good and nicely persons... You doesn't know what kind of person can be behind the monitor. 

I agree with is new minimum.
Sounds fair to me... Internet is a dangerous place. Even if a good part of us are good and nicely persons... You doesn't know what kind of person can be behind the monitor. 

I agree with is new minimum.
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I find this fair. Even though i'm not old enough to be in it, I can wait two more years until I can enter the chatroom. I agree with COPPA
I find this fair. Even though i'm not old enough to be in it, I can wait two more years until I can enter the chatroom. I agree with COPPA
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