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02-24-12 06:49 PM
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Well I like both 3D and 2D in every way because although I don't get the difference. All there is that it makes 3D look better than 2D which in my opinion isn't that fair.






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Well I like both 3D and 2D in every way because although I don't get the difference. All there is that it makes 3D look better than 2D which in my opinion isn't that fair.






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I will admit, I am getting sick of the whole Boost to win thing they have going on nowadays in the Sonic series. It's better than what they had in '06 and slightly better than what was in Black Knight. Actually, make a game using Black Knight's engine, just with no sword and faster. That would be good, right? The whole boost to win thing is getting really reptitive and boring and it just makes the games too easy. Also, some of the level themes are being recycled too much like Green Hill. Don't get me wrong, I love me some Green Hill but was anybody sick of the motif by the time Generations rolled around?
I will admit, I am getting sick of the whole Boost to win thing they have going on nowadays in the Sonic series. It's better than what they had in '06 and slightly better than what was in Black Knight. Actually, make a game using Black Knight's engine, just with no sword and faster. That would be good, right? The whole boost to win thing is getting really reptitive and boring and it just makes the games too easy. Also, some of the level themes are being recycled too much like Green Hill. Don't get me wrong, I love me some Green Hill but was anybody sick of the motif by the time Generations rolled around?
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I definitively agree that SEGA is messing up Sonic. However I did enjoy games like Sonic generations and Sonic adventure 2 I'm planning on buying a Dreamcast and playing the original Sonic Adventure. Still SEGA is messing Sonic up and there's no excuse for it >
I definitively agree that SEGA is messing up Sonic. However I did enjoy games like Sonic generations and Sonic adventure 2 I'm planning on buying a Dreamcast and playing the original Sonic Adventure. Still SEGA is messing Sonic up and there's no excuse for it >
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You gotta love the old 2D version, I mean the gameplay was a bit slippery, which is my only major complaint, and beating the game without save stating is nigh on impossible, but what I really aim for is the early 3D stages of Sonic (Sonic Adventure 1&2) because the game is fast paced enough for my liking, the story is good the platforming feels nice, and the graphics were appealing. However, the newer generation of Sonic is going downhill fast. In fact, I'd say it's already there. Even newer versions of old games are bad.
You gotta love the old 2D version, I mean the gameplay was a bit slippery, which is my only major complaint, and beating the game without save stating is nigh on impossible, but what I really aim for is the early 3D stages of Sonic (Sonic Adventure 1&2) because the game is fast paced enough for my liking, the story is good the platforming feels nice, and the graphics were appealing. However, the newer generation of Sonic is going downhill fast. In fact, I'd say it's already there. Even newer versions of old games are bad.
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TrollStoneProduction : I think that Adventure 1 had some really slippery controls and to be honest, it's one of my least favourite Sonic's. I''m not saying it's bad, I'm just saying I don't like it as much as Adventure 2 and what not.
TrollStoneProduction : I think that Adventure 1 had some really slippery controls and to be honest, it's one of my least favourite Sonic's. I''m not saying it's bad, I'm just saying I don't like it as much as Adventure 2 and what not.
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I've been around and part of the Sonic community for a long time. I loved the 2D games as a kid, and when Adventure 1 and 2 were released I played both games so much that I simply have no idea how many hours they consumed of my time. Then came Sonic Heroes, which I thought was a pretty fun game at the start, but I also knew that I didn't like it anywhere near as much as the Adventure games. Team Dark and their ridiculously long stages was one of the reasons for that.

Still, I see a lot of fans complaining about the direction that Sonic is going into, and often it's the same tune being played over again. "Go back to 2D! Go back to 2D! Go back to 2D!", but they already have created several games that are 2D, most of them for handhelds, but they're still there. Fact of the matter is that games like Generations is the closets we'll ever get to SEGA bringing Sonic back to 2D, and they did go a great job with it, but they also had a theme which made most fans go into a nostalgia induced fit of joy.

Sonic is evolving, and SEGA seems to try to find a new formula that fits him and is fun, which I think is ridiculous because they had a winning formula in Sonic Adventure 1 and 2, and yet ... that is simply my opinion, just like how every other fan that says "Bring it back to 2D! You're ruining Sonic!" is also just stating their opinion.

I would like to see Sonic become more populare again and I would love to see the franchize regain some more of it's dignity, but sadly I think that Generations might of arrived just a little bit too late. I hope I'm wrong and that SEGA really aren't beating a dead horse, but ever since Shadow the Hedgehog (the game) I've just been getting more and more disappointed in them.
I've been around and part of the Sonic community for a long time. I loved the 2D games as a kid, and when Adventure 1 and 2 were released I played both games so much that I simply have no idea how many hours they consumed of my time. Then came Sonic Heroes, which I thought was a pretty fun game at the start, but I also knew that I didn't like it anywhere near as much as the Adventure games. Team Dark and their ridiculously long stages was one of the reasons for that.

Still, I see a lot of fans complaining about the direction that Sonic is going into, and often it's the same tune being played over again. "Go back to 2D! Go back to 2D! Go back to 2D!", but they already have created several games that are 2D, most of them for handhelds, but they're still there. Fact of the matter is that games like Generations is the closets we'll ever get to SEGA bringing Sonic back to 2D, and they did go a great job with it, but they also had a theme which made most fans go into a nostalgia induced fit of joy.

Sonic is evolving, and SEGA seems to try to find a new formula that fits him and is fun, which I think is ridiculous because they had a winning formula in Sonic Adventure 1 and 2, and yet ... that is simply my opinion, just like how every other fan that says "Bring it back to 2D! You're ruining Sonic!" is also just stating their opinion.

I would like to see Sonic become more populare again and I would love to see the franchize regain some more of it's dignity, but sadly I think that Generations might of arrived just a little bit too late. I hope I'm wrong and that SEGA really aren't beating a dead horse, but ever since Shadow the Hedgehog (the game) I've just been getting more and more disappointed in them.
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I think sonic didn't really get bad until this generation of consoles. I liked sonic adventure 2 & sonic heroes, shadow the hedgehog was ok. I liked how each level had different objectives and you would unlock a level based on which one you completed, however the story sucked. I didn't really like any of the sonic Wii games I played, though I still haven't played sonic 4. I still think the 2d sonic games are good, though it seems sonic generations was really short to me.
I think sonic didn't really get bad until this generation of consoles. I liked sonic adventure 2 & sonic heroes, shadow the hedgehog was ok. I liked how each level had different objectives and you would unlock a level based on which one you completed, however the story sucked. I didn't really like any of the sonic Wii games I played, though I still haven't played sonic 4. I still think the 2d sonic games are good, though it seems sonic generations was really short to me.
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I actually like some of the 3D sonic games. Not any of the ones made recently, most notably Sonic (2006) for the 360 which beyond insulting to sonic fans, but Sonic Adventure 1 and 2 for the Dreamcast and Gamecube were good. I would go as far as to say that Sonic Adventure 2 has one of the best story lines of all time. I will agree that 2D sonic was much more consistent than 3D sonic.  
I actually like some of the 3D sonic games. Not any of the ones made recently, most notably Sonic (2006) for the 360 which beyond insulting to sonic fans, but Sonic Adventure 1 and 2 for the Dreamcast and Gamecube were good. I would go as far as to say that Sonic Adventure 2 has one of the best story lines of all time. I will agree that 2D sonic was much more consistent than 3D sonic.  
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I agree that "SEEEEGAAAA" sucked for a good while with some of the Sonic games at that time, but but you also have to acknowledge the fact that SEGA was trying to be innovative with the series. Yes, the Were-hog aspect of unleashed was corny and slow, but wasn't Scrap Brain zone and Mystic Cave zone slow and obstacle ridden. Of all the games you mentioned, only Sonic 06 sucked, and I don't even think it was finished to begin with. Also during that time period, the Sonic Advance series was really good 2D platforming games. Sonic  Unleashed and Sonic colors were steps forward,  while I'm not sure about Generations.
I agree that "SEEEEGAAAA" sucked for a good while with some of the Sonic games at that time, but but you also have to acknowledge the fact that SEGA was trying to be innovative with the series. Yes, the Were-hog aspect of unleashed was corny and slow, but wasn't Scrap Brain zone and Mystic Cave zone slow and obstacle ridden. Of all the games you mentioned, only Sonic 06 sucked, and I don't even think it was finished to begin with. Also during that time period, the Sonic Advance series was really good 2D platforming games. Sonic  Unleashed and Sonic colors were steps forward,  while I'm not sure about Generations.
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I will say Sega should go back to the old days of Sonic and just make all newer games in 2D and actually put a lot of effort to this game.
I will say Sega should go back to the old days of Sonic and just make all newer games in 2D and actually put a lot of effort to this game.
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DLCJRpc : I agree, SEGA had no oidea on what they were doing during the early 2000's with Sonic, sans 2001 with the amazing Adventure 2 which was just awesome and I love that game to bits.
DLCJRpc : I agree, SEGA had no oidea on what they were doing during the early 2000's with Sonic, sans 2001 with the amazing Adventure 2 which was just awesome and I love that game to bits.
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Lots of series do this. 
they want to keep the series new, so they add some sorta gimmick to each new game.

It's not just Sonic, we've got Mario Sunshine, Paper Mario, ( actually, it got a sequel) Zelda: Majora's Mask, 
The Wind Waker, and Skyward Sword with it's awful overworld.

It's because they want to appeal to new audiences by making the series more. . . .    

   
   exotic. . . 

I haven't played Unleashed or The Black Knight, but swords and werewolves sure seem like a bad idea. 
On occasion though, gimmicks can be quite fun. I actually like Majora's Mask and Sonic Colors.

Good gimmicks really should be called features.
I've played Sa2 a little bit, seems like a good system. Just make the later levels more difficult but make it possible to go pretty fast as well.
Kinda like in crisis city, during the final stretch from Sonic generations.
Lots of series do this. 
they want to keep the series new, so they add some sorta gimmick to each new game.

It's not just Sonic, we've got Mario Sunshine, Paper Mario, ( actually, it got a sequel) Zelda: Majora's Mask, 
The Wind Waker, and Skyward Sword with it's awful overworld.

It's because they want to appeal to new audiences by making the series more. . . .    

   
   exotic. . . 

I haven't played Unleashed or The Black Knight, but swords and werewolves sure seem like a bad idea. 
On occasion though, gimmicks can be quite fun. I actually like Majora's Mask and Sonic Colors.

Good gimmicks really should be called features.
I've played Sa2 a little bit, seems like a good system. Just make the later levels more difficult but make it possible to go pretty fast as well.
Kinda like in crisis city, during the final stretch from Sonic generations.
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I liked the 2d games a lot. And I find enjoyment out of the 3d titles too, but they aren't the same. The 3d titles were best in the early 2000s.
I liked the 2d games a lot. And I find enjoyment out of the 3d titles too, but they aren't the same. The 3d titles were best in the early 2000s.
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sonic....... I used to like it until 3d came in then it was just not the same anymore.....
sonic....... I used to like it until 3d came in then it was just not the same anymore.....
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chaoscontrolx : Please don't post in a thread that hasn't been posted in for 3+ months.

For the topic at hand, generations and unleashed were great, making a normal sonic game with those engines would be great. I was not a fan of adventure 1, and sonic adventure 2 had some major flaws, but I liked it. The wii controls killed games like the secret rings for me. Yeah, 06 was horrible, but I'm fairly certain that they were just rushing the project. The controls for the XBOX games are the best in my mind, and I would rather SEGA not team up with Nintendo for the next few games.
chaoscontrolx : Please don't post in a thread that hasn't been posted in for 3+ months.

For the topic at hand, generations and unleashed were great, making a normal sonic game with those engines would be great. I was not a fan of adventure 1, and sonic adventure 2 had some major flaws, but I liked it. The wii controls killed games like the secret rings for me. Yeah, 06 was horrible, but I'm fairly certain that they were just rushing the project. The controls for the XBOX games are the best in my mind, and I would rather SEGA not team up with Nintendo for the next few games.
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Yep it isn't the same anymore the last good sonic game in my opinion was Sonic 06.Recently Generations came out and I got to say that one was pretty good though.
Yep it isn't the same anymore the last good sonic game in my opinion was Sonic 06.Recently Generations came out and I got to say that one was pretty good though.
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Yeah, Sonic was really great in the 2D games, but Sonic in the 3D/HD format, especially after Sonic 06 pretty much bombed the whole series and the series hasn't recovered since then.
So pretty much, the best Sonic we all know is the early Sonic (especially the Genesis era).
Yeah, Sonic was really great in the 2D games, but Sonic in the 3D/HD format, especially after Sonic 06 pretty much bombed the whole series and the series hasn't recovered since then.
So pretty much, the best Sonic we all know is the early Sonic (especially the Genesis era).
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