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03-17-10 07:20 PM
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Do you like the old Pokemon games (gold, silver, etc) better then the newer ones with new pokemon (ruby, sapphire)?

IDK, I guess when ruby and sapphire first came out I still liked the older ones and at that time I though it basically ruined the Pokemon series, haha. But now I've grown fond of the newer ones!

WBU?
Do you like the old Pokemon games (gold, silver, etc) better then the newer ones with new pokemon (ruby, sapphire)?

IDK, I guess when ruby and sapphire first came out I still liked the older ones and at that time I though it basically ruined the Pokemon series, haha. But now I've grown fond of the newer ones!

WBU?
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Well, my favorite Pokemon game is Crystal... but I also really like Platinum. So, I guess you can say I'm a little bit of both. Or, you could say that I'm for the older games... since I do like Crystal better .
Well, my favorite Pokemon game is Crystal... but I also really like Platinum. So, I guess you can say I'm a little bit of both. Or, you could say that I'm for the older games... since I do like Crystal better .
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well i like gold/silver/crystal and i also like the gba and ds games. i think they are all good in their own way. however I sense an arguement coming as there has been some disagreements about the originality,creativity,and quality of the old games when compared to the new.
well i like gold/silver/crystal and i also like the gba and ds games. i think they are all good in their own way. however I sense an arguement coming as there has been some disagreements about the originality,creativity,and quality of the old games when compared to the new.
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The older games were better, there wasn't a rediculous amount of Pokemon to get and you didn't need to attend more then 1 or 2 events to complete your Pokedex.
The first few Pokemon games can't be beat really, you only needed a copy of Red and one of Blue and to attend one event to "catch em all".
The gameplay itself hasn't changed much since those first games, nor has the battle style or even the basic storyline.
It's just so much rehashing now...
The older games were better, there wasn't a rediculous amount of Pokemon to get and you didn't need to attend more then 1 or 2 events to complete your Pokedex.
The first few Pokemon games can't be beat really, you only needed a copy of Red and one of Blue and to attend one event to "catch em all".
The gameplay itself hasn't changed much since those first games, nor has the battle style or even the basic storyline.
It's just so much rehashing now...
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Originally posted by metal572
well i like gold/silver/crystal and i also like the gba and ds games. i think they are all good in their own way. however I sense an arguement coming as there has been some disagreements about the originality,creativity,and quality of the old games when compared to the new.



You know it... I'm waiting for Mattman to see this thread and DH's response and we'll get another rant. *sarcastically*W00t w00t!

But I agree, DH, all this event nonsense just to get all the Pokemon... I gave up on trying to "catch 'em all!" years ago.
Originally posted by metal572
well i like gold/silver/crystal and i also like the gba and ds games. i think they are all good in their own way. however I sense an arguement coming as there has been some disagreements about the originality,creativity,and quality of the old games when compared to the new.



You know it... I'm waiting for Mattman to see this thread and DH's response and we'll get another rant. *sarcastically*W00t w00t!

But I agree, DH, all this event nonsense just to get all the Pokemon... I gave up on trying to "catch 'em all!" years ago.
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As long as people back up why they like the old ones, I'm ok. The "Less pokemon" thing is sound reasoning. Although I'm a bit urked that you don't like the new ones because of rehashing, because they did do a bunch of changes (mostly competitive ones), and a lot of RPGs that are in a series rehash and no one cares. Heck, the battling system for most RPGS is similar already!

Of course, if you didn't realise I like the newer ones now, then you probubly never will.
As long as people back up why they like the old ones, I'm ok. The "Less pokemon" thing is sound reasoning. Although I'm a bit urked that you don't like the new ones because of rehashing, because they did do a bunch of changes (mostly competitive ones), and a lot of RPGs that are in a series rehash and no one cares. Heck, the battling system for most RPGS is similar already!

Of course, if you didn't realise I like the newer ones now, then you probubly never will.
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The old ones are much better because they were still original. Like I've said multiple times before, teh new Pokemon aren't original at all, and DH is right, too little has changed about the game itself for the games to remain fresh. I myself haven't actually played anything after Crystal, but my little sister is a fanatic, she loves everything Pokemon no matter how bad it is, So I do actually know what I'm talking about.
The old ones are much better because they were still original. Like I've said multiple times before, teh new Pokemon aren't original at all, and DH is right, too little has changed about the game itself for the games to remain fresh. I myself haven't actually played anything after Crystal, but my little sister is a fanatic, she loves everything Pokemon no matter how bad it is, So I do actually know what I'm talking about.
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Originally posted by bignatealpha
!But I agree, DH, all this event nonsense just to get all the Pokemon... I gave up on trying to "catch 'em all!" years ago.

Well that's why like my action replay(i have an actual one, the one on my emulator, and the built in one on my flash cart)so i don't have to go out of my way to get all these for example the nearest toys r us isn't too far away from where i live but its in the next city and its inconvenient to drive there just to get the arceus back whenthey were doing that event so i waited for someone to make an ar code for hg/ss to get that arceus. well the J rom already has a code but i was having problems finding on for the US release so i made my own and it actually does trigger the event so there goes every reason to buy into this event bs right out the window.
Originally posted by bignatealpha
!But I agree, DH, all this event nonsense just to get all the Pokemon... I gave up on trying to "catch 'em all!" years ago.

Well that's why like my action replay(i have an actual one, the one on my emulator, and the built in one on my flash cart)so i don't have to go out of my way to get all these for example the nearest toys r us isn't too far away from where i live but its in the next city and its inconvenient to drive there just to get the arceus back whenthey were doing that event so i waited for someone to make an ar code for hg/ss to get that arceus. well the J rom already has a code but i was having problems finding on for the US release so i made my own and it actually does trigger the event so there goes every reason to buy into this event bs right out the window.
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I prefer the old schooll. It's much better than the new one. Also, I think that they are more interesting
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to me ruby/sapphire/emerald are a little boring. when being compared to red/blue/yellow or even gold/silver/crystal. I find it hard to really get in to them I dont know why. theres to many pokemon now a days. even the newer dpp its just the same played out story, same basic stuff. get pokemon, train pokemon, beat bad guys, beat gyms, beat pokemon league, end game. they keep adding things and just making it more and more boring......am I the only one who feels this way?
to me ruby/sapphire/emerald are a little boring. when being compared to red/blue/yellow or even gold/silver/crystal. I find it hard to really get in to them I dont know why. theres to many pokemon now a days. even the newer dpp its just the same played out story, same basic stuff. get pokemon, train pokemon, beat bad guys, beat gyms, beat pokemon league, end game. they keep adding things and just making it more and more boring......am I the only one who feels this way?
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crystal is my all time older game but emerald is my all time favorit newer game you could say i like both
crystal is my all time older game but emerald is my all time favorit newer game you could say i like both
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I like both. I've almost completed Emerald, and I love playing Yellow... so yeah.. I like both the new and the old.
I like both. I've almost completed Emerald, and I love playing Yellow... so yeah.. I like both the new and the old.
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The Old School Pokemon is the best. Sure the New episodes are good, but the old ones are much better.
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I've played them all except Platinum, Heart Gold, and Soul Silver and personally I like the newer ones better. The old ones are good, especially when you think about just how old some of them are, but when I go back and play some of them I realize how many new features I miss. I really like Crystal, and I'm not sure if this was fixed in HG and SS, but one thing I've always wished was that they would have put a little more into the Kanto part and that the Pokemon weren't so weak throughout the game because they made all your opponents so weak. At one point your Pokemon are in the mid to upper 30's and your fighting trainers with Pokemon under 20. And you have 6 or 7 badges at that point, in Diamond and Pearl you Pokemon get to lvl 30 before you get your 3rd badge. Emerald if fun too because it doesn't just end, there's the Battle Frontier. Crystal and on there were battle towers, but that was it. In the Battle Frontier there's so much more you can do. It lasts longer than Kanto in G/S/C, the 7 Islands in LG and FR, and that one Island (dont remember the name) in D/PE/PL. All the games, new and old, were great when they came out and as you would hope the games got better in time. So I can't really pick out one as a favorite, they all have their pros and cons for when they came out. Think about this. If you found someone who had never played Pokemon games before and gave them Blue or Red version and then Heart Gold or Soul Silver and had them play both, of course they will like HG/SS better. In another 15 or how ever many years HG/SS will be as obsolete as Red and Blue are now.
I've played them all except Platinum, Heart Gold, and Soul Silver and personally I like the newer ones better. The old ones are good, especially when you think about just how old some of them are, but when I go back and play some of them I realize how many new features I miss. I really like Crystal, and I'm not sure if this was fixed in HG and SS, but one thing I've always wished was that they would have put a little more into the Kanto part and that the Pokemon weren't so weak throughout the game because they made all your opponents so weak. At one point your Pokemon are in the mid to upper 30's and your fighting trainers with Pokemon under 20. And you have 6 or 7 badges at that point, in Diamond and Pearl you Pokemon get to lvl 30 before you get your 3rd badge. Emerald if fun too because it doesn't just end, there's the Battle Frontier. Crystal and on there were battle towers, but that was it. In the Battle Frontier there's so much more you can do. It lasts longer than Kanto in G/S/C, the 7 Islands in LG and FR, and that one Island (dont remember the name) in D/PE/PL. All the games, new and old, were great when they came out and as you would hope the games got better in time. So I can't really pick out one as a favorite, they all have their pros and cons for when they came out. Think about this. If you found someone who had never played Pokemon games before and gave them Blue or Red version and then Heart Gold or Soul Silver and had them play both, of course they will like HG/SS better. In another 15 or how ever many years HG/SS will be as obsolete as Red and Blue are now.
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Exactly.

And they DID fix Kanto in HgSs. Of course, Johto couldn't be helped, but at least they did what they tried in Crystal: stick so many events in the region that noone will notice the inherant flaws.

The level curve wasn't fixed, but there was a reason: Once you got to Eukrateuk (that's how you spell it, right?), you can choose whether you want to go left or right, and if they had the Elite four in the late 50s or 60s in levels, Kanto would be in 70s or 80s. (they did help it in HGSS though)
Exactly.

And they DID fix Kanto in HgSs. Of course, Johto couldn't be helped, but at least they did what they tried in Crystal: stick so many events in the region that noone will notice the inherant flaws.

The level curve wasn't fixed, but there was a reason: Once you got to Eukrateuk (that's how you spell it, right?), you can choose whether you want to go left or right, and if they had the Elite four in the late 50s or 60s in levels, Kanto would be in 70s or 80s. (they did help it in HGSS though)
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First, it's Ecruteak.
Second, that's all fine and dandy, but really... they've got too many Pokemon, and too many of them rely on events in order to get them. Besides, so the Battle Frontier extends it a little while... but it's still not fun enough to keep me hooked long after I first enter the Hall of Fame. It's not even really that great, most of the time when I lose it's because my opponent cheats. Like a move with horrible accuracy (think a OHKO move) hits on the first shot. Hypnosis barely misses. I somehow get frozen/paralyzed/burned/poisoned 75% of the time. If that's what the AI and CPU and all resorts to to make it harder, then there's no point in playing it. Playing through Johto and Kanto in Gen II takes longer than playing in the Battle Frontier until I'm bored of it and never want to see the place again. And you want to talk about difficulty levels? Half my team was level 50 or below when I beat the League in Platinum, and for the other half, my strongest was like level 58 or something. I was at a serious disadvantage there, and I somehow pulled off an easy win.
First, it's Ecruteak.
Second, that's all fine and dandy, but really... they've got too many Pokemon, and too many of them rely on events in order to get them. Besides, so the Battle Frontier extends it a little while... but it's still not fun enough to keep me hooked long after I first enter the Hall of Fame. It's not even really that great, most of the time when I lose it's because my opponent cheats. Like a move with horrible accuracy (think a OHKO move) hits on the first shot. Hypnosis barely misses. I somehow get frozen/paralyzed/burned/poisoned 75% of the time. If that's what the AI and CPU and all resorts to to make it harder, then there's no point in playing it. Playing through Johto and Kanto in Gen II takes longer than playing in the Battle Frontier until I'm bored of it and never want to see the place again. And you want to talk about difficulty levels? Half my team was level 50 or below when I beat the League in Platinum, and for the other half, my strongest was like level 58 or something. I was at a serious disadvantage there, and I somehow pulled off an easy win.
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wow bignatealpha yet another disagreement between you and mattman i wish i could have seen it coming... o wait i did. but i will say i agree that mattman is kinda biased towards the new games but like i said in the future of pokemon thread its all personal preference.
wow bignatealpha yet another disagreement between you and mattman i wish i could have seen it coming... o wait i did. but i will say i agree that mattman is kinda biased towards the new games but like i said in the future of pokemon thread its all personal preference.
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I actually sort of Like The New ones better. I mean, I still love Red and Blue, But Platinum, HG, SS, are really fun too.
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I like every pokemon games especially pokemon gold
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