This might be the wrong forum for anything that has to do with logic... but I ask anyway.

Assuming God is all knowing (omniscient), all loving (omnibenevolent), and all powerful (omnipotent), then wouldn't that mean that God has the Know-how, the Motivation, and the Power to create a perfect Utopian Earth in which everyone would be absolutely perfectly happy? Or better yet, why make Earth at ALL if the end Result is for us to RETURN to Heaven, with God?

Sorry, I'll ask this a different way. Assuming we all started out in Heaven, with God, and our reward is to go BACK to Heaven if we're good, and God wants us to come BACK to Heaven, where we started, then why exactly are we doing this little excercise on Earth in the first place, if not for the fact that if we aren't good, we go to Hell?

How am I supposed to believe that there is any reason FOR existence other THAN to weed out the bad seeds?

I mean, I trust that God exists, but how am I supposed to believe everything that the Bible says about God? If he's all powerful, then why can't he lie about himself?

Old thread is old.

(dead forum is dead)

So did that guy win?

I got nothing better to do with my time, these days...

Put me wherever.

*posting because nobody has posted in almost a week*

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Ha, I personally actually believe that addictive substances such as alcohol, cigarettes, and crystal meth are very very supposed to be illegal. ^^ I have my issues with coffee, but I suppose that that isn't as bad as other things.

Anyway... This subject is very close to the subject of creationism vs scientific explanation. There's no real answer. Ugh... I hate it when it ends like this, but I doubt we'll get a good answer for this debate.

Anyway... Get to voting people! Vote for what you believe. This is a poll after all...

But hey, leave the thread open, in case others have points to make. Maybe the board will spawn the true answer after all.

You don't need proof for an argument, MichaelVash7886. I doubt you have any proof that there's no link whatsoever. It's logically impossible to prove that something can't be done (yeah yeah, I see the paradox...).

Just because not all drunk drivers get into accidents, and just because not all car accidents involve drunk drivers doesn't mean that alcohol does or doesn't make you more likely for an accident. Personally I believe that this sort of thing is baseless conjecture. Video games may infact insight violence in individuals that don't do anything violent in their entire lives; or they might lessen the violent tendencies of serial murderers, but just not enough to stop them from doing anything; or maybe it does nothing at all, and nobody

Nextly, there's nothing wrong with my statement, if you feel like splitting hairs.... I said "Shooting," not "bombing." Thank you Neojazex, for pointing this out before I did. I've heard nothing of bombings being linked to violent video games, at all, actually. All you really did was enhance on a point that I made, already, while trying to make me sound wrong.

To call my "argument" wrong, when it was a statement that helped you doesn't seem very nice. The Virginia Tech "Shooting" was the most deadly "Shooting" in US History, and No games were involved in it.

Hell, I didn't even take a stance yet... Granted I provided more information about one side of the argument than the other, but I figure that this was for rather good reason, as most (all) of the board members have the same opinion on this (the one I didn't present). I was asking if I should take that side, before I started the debate... Your personal attack on my lack of proof, when I didn't even state any opinion, other than the opinion of other's, seems a bit over zealous, and callous of you.

Anyway, let us get started.

I would like to note that Video Games tend to be more addictive to children than TV or Movies, as many studies (that I could probably find with google, but don't feel like doing right now... I just read it in the San Francisco Chronicle) have shown. Children are left indoors for hours upon hours on end, and are less likely to go outside and play, than to sit inside, interacting with only the machine. The correlation between depression, and video games, is quite obvious. A lack of friends can lead to anti-social and negative behavior, and video games, when played in excess, lead to a lack of friends outside of school, unless the child is lucky enough to have friends come over to play video games with him.

Those studies that I mentioned above have shown a few very consistent effects: Increased Aggression (behavior, thoughts, affects), increased physiological arousal, and an increase in antisocial behavior (or rather a decrease in social behavior) making the child less likely to help others, and making them more likely to become sociopaths.

While the murderous gamers had Anti-Social disorder, it's very possible that that disorder itself was brought on by their addiction to the video games they played.

I freely admit that video games wont make everyone in the world a violent person, but if there's an unexploded missile sitting in the middle of the street, sensitive to the touch, and everybody knows not to touch it, but you just run up and kick it, are they going to blame you, or the fact that the bomb is explosive?

Just because the children were prone to snap, doesn't mean that video games aren't at fault for making the kids snap? Kids pick up things that they see on TV like it's a shiny dollar coin.

Actually the worst school shooting in US History WAS the Virginia tech, one... but I see what you're saying.

Thank you for your post, Mike.

What about anyone else? If nobody has any opposing views, I'll take the opposing side, and say that Violence and Violent Video games are directly related, and that they should be banned from society...

Jack Thompson, the hippest stuck up psycho suer in the history of mankind, has been saying since the Super Nintendo, that Violence in Video Games negatively effects our youth, to the point that it makes them into mindless killing machines.

Can you blame him? When you play a video game, assuming you don't suck at it, and you aren't playing with any of your friends in the same room, you'll usually have this blank stare on your face, which is precisely the same as the look on the face of a man going on a real life killing spree.

Jack Thompson refers to video games as "Murder Simulators" and says that they provide an environment that allows you to rehearse your school shooting, or ways to kill a person. Dr. Phil, Hilary Clinton, and all of those other people that your parents watch on TV agree that Violence in Video Games has a detrimental effect on the youth of America.

Do you agree? Sure, most of those students who shoot up schools (except for the Virginia Tech Shooter) since video games have been out have enjoyed violent video games, but at the same time, it'd be a little difficult to find any male at the age of 18 that hasn't enjoyed a first person shooter at some point in his life.

What do you all think?

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Well that settles that... the answer is chuck norris...

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Next question?

hahaa... I do need a life... ^^ f*** you... People who say that are lame. I have a life thank you very much... you can guage that on my activity being very low and such... Yes...

*ends it there because long posts are lame*

EDIT: Oh! Here's a new one, btw...

I'm Cabbage... and go to MoonlitRO...

And I made this. XD

Edit: ... Html is disabled?! O_o... no fair... I'll just stick it in my sig. HA!

Edit 2: That doesn't work either, huh? Fine... here...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v420/shaddowkarate/IcanTalklol.swf

... Wow... The majority of this thread is full of the most immature and downright ignorant crap I've ever heard. .... no wait... read... lol I didn't hear anything. ^^

I mean... WOW! ... ... ... WOW!

I went and voted for Schala because this thread is so old, and because she was origionally going to BE a playable character, and would have double techs with Magus.