And you expect to?? As stated before, they hire the best of the best and not just one person works on the story. If you can create a good game by yourself you probably do stand a decent chance for working for SE. I'm probably going to use RPG maker to create a FF game soon.

I agree with Shaddow to a certain extent. I don't agree on which games were great. Overall, I've enjoyed every final fantasy immensly. I saw a decline in quality that strated with FF7 and ended with FF9. I don't see how David can say FF10 changed the way Final Fantasy is played or whatever. It had a very involved story, beautifully done like the classics, if not better. It had stunning graphics to go with it and it really didn't change much from the old. In fact, FF9 started the trend of combining the old with the new and I think FF10 continued it with it's superb use of magic, summons and mechanical technology. FF10 is definately one of the top Final Fantasy games, and I can't understand why so many people insist on bashing it. The again I'm sure few people can understand why FF7 was my least favorite, but I strongly believe that a lot of people who think FF7 is the best are just conforming because my friend thinks it and hasn't played through the first disc yet, and I've met others who are like that. FF11 is new...very new. It's hardly like any traditional FF game but it is addicting nonetheless. It's a great game but fails as a good Final Fantasy. I have yet to get my hands on FFCC and I'm going to die soon if FF12 doesn't get released -.-;

Originally posted by Jin

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Excellent post, Quiet Chaos.

But knowing the conservative republicans around here, They're going to take one look at that democatic webpage link and pick you apart saying you give into "liberal propaganda".

Don't let it get to you, You've made your point loud and clear and I utterly agree.

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Yeah, I hesitated on that one for that very reason but I went along with it anyways. I mostly tried to pick things that wouldn't stand out as something like that, though.

Well now...what's this? I honestly didn't expect it to be like this. Most people I know would argue that neither are over rated without even thinking about it.

Some hide and seek game for atari was first lol
Most recently was Mario Kart Double Dash...WAIT, NO! I just this second started a game on Zelda LTTP so that's the most recent lol

WOOT! I got an SNES and zelda a link to the past for christmas!! WOOT again! 'tis indeed the best.

I want so badly to own this game. The next best thing for me is FlashFlashRevolution.com
I've gotten quite good at following the arrows and going with the flow of the music. I can play some songs on standard when I get the occasional chance to play DDR at the arcade, even though I've probably only spent a total of about 2 hours in my life on the actual arcade machine. I couldn't get further because of bad habits like jumping and returning to the center. FFR does penalize for wrong arrows so when I first played DDR I thought it did too. And the jumping is just natural and something you have to beat.

Winter definately. Winter is the time of the year where sitting under a blanket on your couch and watching a movie is most comfortable because of the contrasting temperatures of outside and inside. Also, the cold wakes me up when I walk to school lol. And last but CERTAINLY not least, SNOW. Snow should be a season itself just because it's so awesome. Even if I hated everything else about winter it would still be my favorite season just because of the snow.

lol, I was too lazy to read the whole thread. But I would like to use this oppurtunity to say that I was severly displeased, to put it mildly, that several debates I was looking foward to turned almost immediately into a religion debate. Bringing religion into a debate is fair and everything but it's usually not a good thing to lean on and it's even less of a good thing to turn a debate into. So stop bashing eachother over religion. I enjoy debating, even against those who show little or no evidence to support themselves. I don't like fighting with words. If you want to fight then come over and fight me, I've never been in one before but I've always wanted to. Let's make it a boxing match so it's not considered violence though ;P
Anyways, stick to debating/argueing. But don't fight and bash, k?

My gosh! Talking about MSpaint?? lol

Originally posted by Jin

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I didn't say chemical imbalances were ALLWAYS the case, but reguardless suicidal people should NEVER be handled in the way John suggests.. EVER.

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I think I know what you mean when you mentioned how John suggested things should be handled. But what I was saying is that there is some truth behind the one sided arguement he imposed. There usually is some truth behind such one sided statements. So as I first said, John is completely wrong. I do agree with you though that chemical imbalances play an important role in suicide. It is also true that it is often a side-affect of stress. Both can be handled in ways to prevent suicide, but everyone is different and as a result, the method to deal with a persons problem is different for most people.

I'm going to have to support Jin once again on this. The BC/AD is obviously a system created by someone, like the number systems, and it wouldn't have a large area of error, namely a time between BC and AD, unless it was intended, which it wasn't. *Takes a deep breath*

That disproves my brother's statement. And as far as I know, nobody has ever tried to use BC and AD to disprove the birth of Jesus. It is known as an historical event, even in History texts, even if it isn't the same as in the Bible. Jesus was born, that's a fact and you can't disprove it with a system used to categorize time.

Yeah, I agree with Jin here. Pretty much anything in excess is a bad thing(human population anyone?) and weed isn't an exception. I think it should be legalized so it could be monitered like liquor and so those who do it for reasons that may not always be bad don't have to feel bad for breaking a law, which I'm sure happens. Personally, I've never done it and I don't plan on it. I don't need it, I just look at things in a way many don't always understand and it helps with whatever I need though it isn't always easy. So yeah, basically weed isn't all that bad in moderation, like liquor, and should be legalized and monitered, but I wouldn't do it because I don't need it.

Originally posted by John

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I didn't say you were a negitive person. All i said was that you dont always make positive and optimistic posts, which you cliamed you did. Thank you and good night.

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Originally posted by John

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And are you stupid? You just said you were a positive person and i shut you down. Do you now know when you have been defeated????

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Originally posted by John

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YOUR NOT NEGITIVE?????.... fine i will find more quotes. Rather tedious dont you think?

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Ok, this pisses me off and it takes a lot for me to say something like this. You contradicted yourself, and that's a big no-no in debate, even if it is off topic. I don't think Jin is being negative or pessimistic. Jin is a realist, and about as realist as anyone can get. I don't agree with him on a lot of what he says but I agree he isn't negative. Now I would appreciate if you two could stop bashing eachother and please stay on topic. This isn't a war, it's an informal debate.



On topic:
My thoughts on life outside of Earth are a bit confused. Indeed the Bible does not say there is not life anywhere else. But even so, we thrive on our planet and considering the vastness of space, there is likely another habital planet. All we've discovered so far is bacteria and perhaps that's all there is. But I think it is possible for life to thrive elsewhere. I know this wasn't mentioned, but I don't think aliens will be coming in to invade and destroy us anytime soon, so don't worry about that.

ah! Politics. The one thing I hate debating most, but how can I resist stepping in? I find it Ironic that I was reading funny bush quotes for fun and nothing more and then my brother MisterMog got mad at me. We got into a big discussion over why bush is or isn't a good president. My brother had no idea whatsoever what he was talking about, and I don't want people flaming him because of anything I say, he is my brother after all. He didn't have any supports and I read all 5 pages of this thread asking him his thoughts along the way(while he played my new[old] game zelda: link to the past ). He couldn't support things, and sometimes he didn't even know what he was talking about. Anyways, I got to flame my brother but nobody else can. As for John...I already said I read all 5 pages and in those 5 pages I found no evidence of support for John so-called "facts". He hasn't justified any "facts" with anything but his own opinions.

Bush. Our president. Texas' former governor. Everyone know Bush is definately not the smartest person to come into the presidency, even those who support him should. The funny quotes I was referring to earlier were things he actually said and some we're even recorded. My favorite:

http://release.theplatform.com/content.select?pid=B9VLDazWialomHyrhcsC6BaNlrGk7PdC&UserName=Unknown

Bush can't think on his feet and he's proven it time and time again through his speech. This isn't a good thing in a leader and gives America, our country and the country he represents, a bad reputation. Emergencies such as 9/11, or perhaps something not so severe, need to be handled swiftly and with little hesitation and this isn't a strong quality in Bush.

I read a newspaper article a couple months ago, while delivering my paper route, about the record economic deficit Bush has created over the large projected surplus. What does this mean? It means that he has to pay it off. Things don't look so great for our economy.

On to the war. Let's get some things straight. Saddam had nothing to do with 9/11 OR Bin Laden. Bin Laden threw a devastating attack at us, an Bush was justified in sending troops to combat terrorism at it's known source. Bush's reasons for attacking Iraq were mixed among personal and false reasons. Bush was upset because his dad didn't acheive what he wanted to do with Saddam. He also tried to use WMD as support for his war when "support" showed otherwise. That's a hefty article but basically it says that the UN went through with "an inspection and monitoring regime, intended to insure that Iraq dismantled its WMD programs and did not take actions to reconstitute them." Afterwards it was determined that more intrusive inspections were needed or there would be "serious consequences". When Bush wanted yet another inspection and didn't get one he started Operation Iraqi Freedom, a pseudo-reason for his war. Here are some quotes explaining what came next:

"As U.S. forces moved through Iraq, there were initial reports that chemical or biological weapons might have been uncovered, but closer examinations produced negative results."

"In addition, members of Congress and Parliament, as well as potential political opponents and outside observers have criticized the use of intelligence by the Bush and Blair administrations. Charges have included outright distortion, selective use of intelligence, and exertion of political pressure to influence the content of intelligence estimates in order to provide support to the decision to go to war with Iraq."

Bush's reasons for this war were not all real and even if they are there is yet anther problem. This war has divided our country. Let's take a look into history and see if this happened once recently. Hmmmm....ah! Vietnam. What happened with Vietnam? I see from my learning in school and books that we had no effect in the outcome of what happened with Vietnam. But Vietnam sure affected us. Our country was practiclly split down the middle and all we got out of the war was a monument with 300,000 thousand names of soldiers who died in the pointless wars. If you ask me, this war is essentially a repeat of that disastor.

That's all I have to say for now.

Animal Crossing
Super Smash Brothers Melee
The Legend of Zelda, Four Sword
Clothes
Shoes
Gloves
CD Player
Final Fantasy XI
Battlefield 1942
150$
then I have about 10 gifts under my "mom's" tree!

Actually, John isn't completely wrong. I was kind of upset that this discussion got into such a heated battle over religion, even though I knew it would. Yes, I believe that if you commit suicide you'll go to hell but I usually don't bring religion into arguments such as this. It is true that depression is often a chemical imbalance, which is why there is medicine for it. But just because you are clinically depressed doesn't mean you'll be suicidal. If you are suicidal then you need help and it's that simple believe it or not. Help is in different forms and a lot of people are just too lazy or stupid, yes stupid, to seek it out. I say stupid because in a life and death situation, it's stupid not to do anything to solve the problem. Suicide is murder and murder is wrong. Nothing justifies murder just as nothing justifies Suicide. If you feel like commiting suicide then do something else. I was very depressed during freshman year of highschool and I did something about it, something big. I heard from another person that was suicidal that she would cut herself because it gave her a kind of high like smoking or something. And while cutting may seem bad and surely is a sign of being suicidal, at least the person is doing something to try and prevent it. While I may sound pessimistic about the whole topic I do feel some sympathy for those who think about it alot. I don't think they should and I don't think I could forgive someone close to me for doing it but I understand that a person like that has a lot of problems they can't handle on their own. I just wish that when they realize this they would go about solving it a different way...

True, that's why you put ALL swords on. Then at least you always know how you died

You can also put on some auto over shield or something right?

This is a quote of someone else followed by my thoughts from another forum I go to. It's a bit harsh.

Originally posted by Quiet Chaos

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[quote="lonelytraveler8"][quote="Mr SadistiK"]Oh how I love morbid topics! Especially this one. I have had my fill of suicide, I've lost three family members to it, and found ones remains. Now my opinion on this subject is..........those who attempt/succeed are just trying to take the easy way out. They can't handle lifes little hardships. Those who claim they will, yes 99.9% of the time are just looking for attention. A real sucidal person (and yes I know this for fact) won't tell anyone. They just start acting really, really happy, and give away everything that is precious to them and then do the deed.

Now what I have to say to all those thinking about it..........go ahead, take the easy way out. If life is just too tough for you than stop pushing your misery on everyone else. Or you can just tough it out like the rest of us, make due with what you got and move on. Unless you were torn in half by a locomotive and are suffering a tremndous amount of pain, and there is no chance for survival, it seems to me that suicide would be the (excuse the expression) the p**** way to fix your problems. Not only that, but you actually didn't fix anything. You just passed it to your next of kin, along with a large amount of trauma and a fat funeral bill.


(Do not mistake this message for permission to wipe yourself out.)[/quote]

These are the harsh remarks I mentioned I would be posting. So I guess I don't have to post them myself but I would like to say that I would have said it in a bit more sugar-coated way but the point stays the same. Giving up on something goes against most od what I believe in. It's not like just not finishing something, it's different and much worse. And giving up on life is the one thing that makes you look most like a wimp. If your bullied everyday in school, it doesn't make you a wimp to fight back, in fact that's probably the smart decision in most cases. What gives you that image is taking your life and then you can never take that image back. If you've lost interest in life then so what. I've lost interest in anime before and I got that back. Life isn't a game all the time and things almost never go your way. If your in an especially bad problem or have severe depression, which is a disease, then I sympathize with you. I've been there myself. Many people have without commiting suicide. If your in this predicament then do something about it, get medicine or move or something. I solved my problem at age 14 by moving half way across the United States and it wasn't easy to do. It's often not easy to fix your problems but I'm sorry to break it to you, it's not supposed to be. It's not impossible though. Chances are that if your suicidal your not going to tell anybody and you might even be in a situation where some people don't even know or believe what your going through. Does that mean by committing suicide you'll finally get people to pay attention? Unfortunately, your right but in the process you gave up any chance of receiving that attention because now people will be crying over you and wishing they'd seen the trouble and blaming themselves. So if your that weak to give up over something small or something huge or a mix of the two then go ahead and commit suicide, but remember that you could never make it up to anyone that cares about you. Also remember that your not alone.[/quote]

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yup, but it's a long story...at least it would be if I told it. hmmm...hey, i can tell it in a short way if I cut out all the details, imagine that?
He lives with our dad and I live with our mom

That thing's godly...why would you be upset to die to it? I think it should be an honor to die by the sword. "Live by the sword, die by the sword" I always say.