Ive always wondered why people dont consider Squitle easier to start with rather then Bulbasaur.

Squitle can beat brock the easiest. He can learn dig which makes trainer 3 and 4 easy. he just has to learn bite and Mistys easy

By the time hes a Blastoise he can learn Ice Beam Earthquake Hydro Pump so hes super effective on both a Charizard and a Venesaur.

Hes also super effective on 2 of the last 4 trainers and not weak on 2 of them like a Venesaur is.
Unless your a high enough level Sabrinas the hardest trainer because Kadabra can recover.

This is a question ive wanted to always ask,

Because even with Bite Squirtle is only average against Misty.
Then he's useless against Surge and Erika, average against Koga and Sabrina, and by the time he's useful again (against Blaine and Giovanni) you should have a Lapras, a Gyarados and possibly a few other strong water types.

Charmander is nearly as bad.
Bulbasaur is really the only one of those starters that is useful thoughout the whole game without messing around with TMs / HMs and he can beat 6 of the 8 Gyms easily.

The water starter never fails me. I chose it in every version I've played. In every version, I have beaten the game. Water starters, including squirtle, PWN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sorry dude, grass all the way. Let me give you a quick rundown of all the gyms:

1: Rock. Squirtle good, Bulbasaur good.
2: Water. Wartortle decent (if it knows bite), Ivysaur good.
3: Electric. Wartortle bad, Ivysaur good.
4: Grass. Wartortle doomed, Ivysaur, while not good when using STAB moves (unless of course you got the Sludge Bomb TM from a friend or other copy of the game in FR/LG), has double resistance to Erika's primary type.
5: Poison. Blastoise is decent here, and can get some super-effective (albeit weak) hits on Koga's pokemon. Venusaur once again is lousy when it comes to STAB moves, and takes normal damage, so it is decent there as well.
6: Psychic. Venusaur is lacking due to it's weakness to Psychich, but it's moves still deal normal damage. Blastoise is once again decent here.
7: Fire. The only other time Venusaur is weak. Blastoise excels here on the other hand. It is worthy of note however, that by this time you will have had a chance to get a strong Vaporeon, Gyrados, or Lapras.
8: Ground. Both excel here. Also, if you have the strong water types mentioned above, you can cover for the fact that Giovanni has Nidoking and Nidoqueen, which take only normal damage from grass attacks.
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So, as you can see, Venusaur is more helpful against the gyms than Blastoise. Not to mention, Venusaur can take out most of Lorelei's pokemon, due to them being part water. Also, it can take out Bruno's Onix, making it also more helpful against the Elite Four than Blastoise.

Well, other than all that I have one reason alone:

It takes opinion.

So, people don't like Squirtle so much...no biggie. xP

Though me personally, I would pick Squirtle...but only sometimes.

It's not that I don't like Squirtle, I just wouldn't pick him as a starter.
But I would still get him from trades / breeding and use him in battles.

I always use Squirtle as my water type. Because of his ability to learn Ice type moves, he can take down grass types. Too bad in most Pokemon games you get the Ice TMs late in the games. Like Blizzard, the best Ice type move.

This is just a game where we all have our own styles.
I find Squirtle the best because he can learn Earthquake, Icebeam, Surf and Hydro pump. as for Hydro Pump and Blizzard they miss to much so i prefer Surf and Icebeam,

I also hate how Solarbeam takes 2 turns and he cant learn as good of a variety.
It's also a poison which gives it way to many weaknesses..
Squirles with Icebeam Earthquake Surf Bodyslam he pretty much can own anything in the game.

bulbasaur is the best because he easily destroys the first two gyms and by that time you can easily pick up better pokemon and and change over have your gyardos by the time you get to vermilion city BTW I do not recommend using gyardos against lt. surge

It's pretty much like everyones been saying... it's all down to preference... I personally go for Charmander cos I love the fire types.

Charmender is more better than squrtle. Charmender has great evoultions. Squrtle is a kind of good starter.






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look at him he is the top gun. espically blastoise don`t **** with him






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i like squirtle the water starter is the best overall the fires starter's only good thing is its very high attack stat and grass ehh its kinda weak..like darth said It's also a poison which gives it way to many weaknesses dont get me wrong i like all the starters but overall squirtle is the best

Originally posted by crashhat69

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i like squirtle the water starter is the best overall the fires starter's only good thing is its very high attack stat and grass ehh its kinda weak..like darth said It's also a poison which gives it way to many weaknesses dont get me wrong i like all the starters but overall squirtle is the best

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Many weaknesses? Bulbasaur has four: fire, flying, ice, and psychic. That's less than pure grass type pokemon (five: poison, bug, fire, ice, and flying), plus he has no double-weaknesses, unlike Torterra (the only grass starter with a double-weakness) Plus, he gains resistance to fighting type, although it has lost its resistance to ground. So, squirtle has only two... they're pretty common types, especially grass. Also, only two of bulbasaur's weaknesses are gym types, which puts him on the same level as squirtle when comparing number of gyms they are weak to. Charizard's the worst when it comes to weaknesses: double-weakness to rock, as well as weaknesses to water and electric. All three of those are gym types, and charizard is the only Kanto starter with a double-weakness. It is notable, however, that Charizard does have an immunity: ground.

And pacceba, look at bulbasaur:

Isn't it cute?

Venusaur is also a whole lot tougher looking than blastoise:

In generation 1, Venusaur's Razor Leaf always criticaled, so it was best ingame. And that's not just that it SEEMS to: The critical hit rate is bugged in RBY so that it is Base Speed/256 (So if you had 128, you'd crit half the time). But for Razor Leaf and Slash and all the rest of the high-crit moves, it's Base Speed/63. Venusaur's Base Speed is more than 63, thus it always crits with Razor Leaf.

In generation 3, Squirtle is the best of the three ingame.

But this is INGAME. Competitively, none of the three are really that great, with CHARIZARD likely being best in all but Gen4 (thanks to being one of 2 good and fast Belly Drummers.), and in Gen4, Venusaur is best again. (go look up usage lists on Smogon, Venusaur is VERY HIGH at all times in UU)

But Bulbasaur is the most practical You don't have to go catch a good grass type, you can spend your time building a team of other good types. Besides, for me, even in Gen. III, bulbasaur was the best, it remains the only one that I've had that got me all the way to the elite 4. with the other two, I just gave up because it was so frustrating.

You don't need a good Fire or Water type either. It's nice to have one, but you don't NEED one. It's also nice to have a pokemon with a sleeping move, and the best ones are Grass types, and while there isn't the variaty like with water types, they're still quite a few good ones. Actually, nabbing Bellsprout or Oddish for Misty is a REALLY good idea, and Eggseggutor is nice to.

Sereously though, I hardly ever use a fire type when I'm not using Charizard, and only occasionally do I go into Water types when I don't use Blastoise (Usually Vaporeon, Lapras, or some random thing like Kingler). The only types that are almost a necesity are Ice (which Blastoise learns, also Articuno does), Psychic (Best left to Hypno or Kadabrakazam), Electric (Raichu, Electabuzz, Magnaton, or Zapdos), and Fighting (A variaty of pokemon get Brick Break, like Charizard and Blastoise.)

Squirtle isn't considered the best because Charmander (really Charizard) is the best followed by Squirtle (Blastoise) then Bulbasaur (Venusaur.). Now if we're talking which is easier in the beginning of Kanto it's hands down Bulbasaur because it learns razor leaf (a power of 55 plus STAB bonus) compared to Water Gun and Ember (both a power of 40 plus STAB.) So early in the game it learns the strongest elemental move of the 3, but that advantage quickly disappears as the other 2 can learn Surf, Ice Beam, and Flamethrower. Sure there's Solarbeam but that comes much MUCH later, and Charizard can learn Overheat which is stronger. The second reason Bulbasaur is the best at the start is because it can single handedly take on Brock and Misty and Lt. Surge's electric attacks don't affect it much. So if your a newbie to Pokemon, Bulbasaur is the safest bet. But if not Charmander is a risk worth taking because it pays off in the end. Regardless of which applies to you, Squirtle comes in second both ways.

The one plus to Squirtle is that you then don't need to catch a water type for Surf, which can be a bit challenging to do sometimes before you need it unless you go out of your way. And it gives you someone to teach Ice Beam to fight Lance's Dragons at the end. You can catch grass Pokemon almost every where and HM wise they dont do a whole lot for you. Neither do fire types but those are even harder to find, if not impossible, than water types early in the game unless you go with Charmander. So really you just have to go with what's best for you and your situation. Every time I go through I pick a different one to force myself into creating a team different than ones I've used before just for the fun of it. All thinks considered, in my opinion, it goes Charmander, Squirtle, Bulbasaur but that's just me.