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Why was Japan in WW2?

 

08-12-16 06:28 PM
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   So this is a question that I am really wondering about. Why was Japan in WW2 and on the side of Germany? I am really just wondering what they were hoping to do and what their plan was. They were not just in it for Germany's goal because they did not surrender when Adolf Hitler died.
   So this is a question that I am really wondering about. Why was Japan in WW2 and on the side of Germany? I am really just wondering what they were hoping to do and what their plan was. They were not just in it for Germany's goal because they did not surrender when Adolf Hitler died.
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I think japan was in WW2 because the united states declared war on communism and japan(being communist) didn't like that one bit , so they revolted by while flying in planes, they caught all the fish in the pacific ocean leaving the United states deprived of fish, so then the united states reacted by droping two huge bombs on japans two major fishing ports killing millions of the fish they caught, and that is how the united states beat japan in WW2 (with two big bombs that made things go BOOM) 
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I think japan was in WW2 because the united states declared war on communism and japan(being communist) didn't like that one bit , so they revolted by while flying in planes, they caught all the fish in the pacific ocean leaving the United states deprived of fish, so then the united states reacted by droping two huge bombs on japans two major fishing ports killing millions of the fish they caught, and that is how the united states beat japan in WW2 (with two big bombs that made things go BOOM) 
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The quick answer is that Japan was an emerging power with very little arable land and few natural resources and the Emperor wanted more territory to drop the cost of manufacturing. Free trade wasn't happening and the other colonial powers, like the Dutch, the English, even the Americans, fiercely protected their trade rights and didn't Japan, as an emerging economy, into the picture.

So Japan is coming out of a depression in the early to mid-1930s, they're looking to secure their future and pay for heavy deficit spending on manufacturing and militarization, and they needed to do it without paying other people for oil, rubber, and other needs of heavy industrial production.

Politically, Japan had emerged from the Meiji era and was politically led by militant "elder statesmen" who were hawks regarding politics. They felt strong enough to exploit other nearby countries and regions for those resources and they used a large military to employ young men and get them away from the depression to stop putting drains on social demands. Now, they have a big army and they have to pay for it. So they invade China and Russia doesn't do much more than protect her own borders. No one else steps in.

In the late 1930s and in 1940, Japan invaded several other countries in Asia. The U.S. began an embargo on Japanese trade and stopped selling steel, rubber, and oil. The Japanese knew they wouldn't last long with the embargo and they needed to wipe out the Americans' combat capabilities in the Pacific, and they hoped to be left alone with their territory gains while the U.S., England, and France went after the Germans and the Italians. The belief was by the time that war was over, the Allied countries would be used up and would allow Japan to hold their gains.

So, the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor in an effort to end the war before it could even start. Japan expected the destruction of the Pacific Fleet would deny the Americans the ability to fight back for years and Japan could then consolidate their control, allowing them to become an economic power player in the world and allow them to continue to strengthen their military and stay relevant on the political stage.

Safe to say, we know how it ended.
The quick answer is that Japan was an emerging power with very little arable land and few natural resources and the Emperor wanted more territory to drop the cost of manufacturing. Free trade wasn't happening and the other colonial powers, like the Dutch, the English, even the Americans, fiercely protected their trade rights and didn't Japan, as an emerging economy, into the picture.

So Japan is coming out of a depression in the early to mid-1930s, they're looking to secure their future and pay for heavy deficit spending on manufacturing and militarization, and they needed to do it without paying other people for oil, rubber, and other needs of heavy industrial production.

Politically, Japan had emerged from the Meiji era and was politically led by militant "elder statesmen" who were hawks regarding politics. They felt strong enough to exploit other nearby countries and regions for those resources and they used a large military to employ young men and get them away from the depression to stop putting drains on social demands. Now, they have a big army and they have to pay for it. So they invade China and Russia doesn't do much more than protect her own borders. No one else steps in.

In the late 1930s and in 1940, Japan invaded several other countries in Asia. The U.S. began an embargo on Japanese trade and stopped selling steel, rubber, and oil. The Japanese knew they wouldn't last long with the embargo and they needed to wipe out the Americans' combat capabilities in the Pacific, and they hoped to be left alone with their territory gains while the U.S., England, and France went after the Germans and the Italians. The belief was by the time that war was over, the Allied countries would be used up and would allow Japan to hold their gains.

So, the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor in an effort to end the war before it could even start. Japan expected the destruction of the Pacific Fleet would deny the Americans the ability to fight back for years and Japan could then consolidate their control, allowing them to become an economic power player in the world and allow them to continue to strengthen their military and stay relevant on the political stage.

Safe to say, we know how it ended.
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Yeah, Pretty much what Ghostbear said. . . Also, it's worth noting that the Japan had already tried to expand it's territory for the same reasons during the Russo Japanese war. If you haven't heard of the Russo Japanese war, than you might find that interesting. I certainly did. It makes a lot more sense in context of World War II as it's precursor.

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Yeah, Pretty much what Ghostbear said. . . Also, it's worth noting that the Japan had already tried to expand it's territory for the same reasons during the Russo Japanese war. If you haven't heard of the Russo Japanese war, than you might find that interesting. I certainly did. It makes a lot more sense in context of World War II as it's precursor.

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Sword legion : Yes, you're accurate. World War II wasn't the first time, or second time, the Japanese made military moves to expand their empire.

And if you want to go even further back, there were two wars between the Russians and the Japanese from the late 1890s to 1905ish. I'd have to go look up Wikipedia to make sure but the Russians and Japanese went at it a few times over expansion, warm water ports, and Manchuria. The French and Germans fought alongside the Russians in the first one, in 1895, to deny Japanese claims on northeastern China. The Russians also took Port Arthur in that one and the Japanese decided to stage a coup in Korea to take it back. The Russians wanted to stop expansion but also wanted to take advantage of the situation and get themselves well-positioned on the east coast of Asia.

The Russians then sailed all the way around Africa to show up near Korea and get blown to bits. The Japanese ran out of money to fund their war so both countries sent delegates to New Hampshire, of all places, to sign an official cessation of conflict.

So, thirty years later, the Japanese made another move because they were in a new position, politically and economically, to bring their influence over a large number of Asian nations and feed their manufacturing needs.

The U.S. saw what they were doing, embargoed them, and got the Pearl Harbor attacks.

The rest is history, as they say.
Sword legion : Yes, you're accurate. World War II wasn't the first time, or second time, the Japanese made military moves to expand their empire.

And if you want to go even further back, there were two wars between the Russians and the Japanese from the late 1890s to 1905ish. I'd have to go look up Wikipedia to make sure but the Russians and Japanese went at it a few times over expansion, warm water ports, and Manchuria. The French and Germans fought alongside the Russians in the first one, in 1895, to deny Japanese claims on northeastern China. The Russians also took Port Arthur in that one and the Japanese decided to stage a coup in Korea to take it back. The Russians wanted to stop expansion but also wanted to take advantage of the situation and get themselves well-positioned on the east coast of Asia.

The Russians then sailed all the way around Africa to show up near Korea and get blown to bits. The Japanese ran out of money to fund their war so both countries sent delegates to New Hampshire, of all places, to sign an official cessation of conflict.

So, thirty years later, the Japanese made another move because they were in a new position, politically and economically, to bring their influence over a large number of Asian nations and feed their manufacturing needs.

The U.S. saw what they were doing, embargoed them, and got the Pearl Harbor attacks.

The rest is history, as they say.
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Ghostbear1111 : I actually didn't know it was so complicated. I had always heard that Japan just got too big for their britches, as the old timers here say, and that they bombed Pearl Harbor because we were supplying the Chinese against them. This makes a whole lot more sense, though.
Ghostbear1111 : I actually didn't know it was so complicated. I had always heard that Japan just got too big for their britches, as the old timers here say, and that they bombed Pearl Harbor because we were supplying the Chinese against them. This makes a whole lot more sense, though.
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m0ssb3rg935 : It could go deeper if you liked, all the way to when Perry opened Japanese trade to the Americans via parking a battleship in the bay next to the Emperor's palace and saying, "Okay, we blow you up or you trade with us."

And then the Japanese, who hated and feared religious and Christian indoctrination, were really only trading partners with the Dutch, who were interested in science and gold and couldn't care less about advancing religions.

And it goes from there. The history is fascinating. People on here love the Japanese culture but I don't know that a lot of them really understand it or why it is the way it is.

My wife is Japanese American, in that she's Caucasian with some Japanese blood but she grew up in Japan and speaks Japanese better than English. Her history is amazing to listen to. It's interesting to hear how she interprets World War II. Technically, her country lost because she doesn't identify with the United States the way I do.
m0ssb3rg935 : It could go deeper if you liked, all the way to when Perry opened Japanese trade to the Americans via parking a battleship in the bay next to the Emperor's palace and saying, "Okay, we blow you up or you trade with us."

And then the Japanese, who hated and feared religious and Christian indoctrination, were really only trading partners with the Dutch, who were interested in science and gold and couldn't care less about advancing religions.

And it goes from there. The history is fascinating. People on here love the Japanese culture but I don't know that a lot of them really understand it or why it is the way it is.

My wife is Japanese American, in that she's Caucasian with some Japanese blood but she grew up in Japan and speaks Japanese better than English. Her history is amazing to listen to. It's interesting to hear how she interprets World War II. Technically, her country lost because she doesn't identify with the United States the way I do.
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To understand why Japan was on Germany's Side in WWI the roots go back to WWI 

In WWI Britain and France were locked in a stalemate with Germany. Russia was having internal problems and was starting to withdraw its troops. Russia would drop out of the war as the Communist revolted and took over. Britain and France was battered they were not really losing but not gaining any ground. They needed somebody to step in quickly with fresh troops. In 1916 the sinking of the Lusitania drew the USA into the War. That helped out things. But Britain and France also made a treaty with Japan and Italy if they entered the war and if Germany and its allies are defeated. Japan and Italy would be rewarded. Britain wanted Italy and Japan involved because they were part of the 7 Imperial powers. The Imperial Powers included: USA, Britain, France, Germany, Italy, Russia, and Japan.

Well Germany and their allies surrendered in 1918 and had harsh penalties put on them. Italy and Japan never got their promised rewards. This left bad feelings in Italy and Japan. As many thought their troops died for nothing. Then in the 1920's Italy and Japan would get new leaders. Italy would be taken over by Mussolini who was a brutal dictator. Japan would get a new leader who was hostile and a dictator. He built up Japan's armed forces. Then he started to want to annex other nations in the Pacific. Japans leadership invaded China in the 1930's. Now some have historians think Japan did this because they thought they were not taken seriously in the previous war and were taken advantage of.

Hitler got full control over Germany in 1932. Hitler made an alliance with Italy. Japans new leadership was very warm toward Germany. So they were called the Axis. Germany wanted to rule all of Europe, Italy wanted to spread into Africa, and Japan wanted the pacific. Now getting back to Japan. Japan started to take over Islands and countries in the Pacific. There was only another power in Japans way from having all control of the Pacific and that was the USA. Japan saw the USA as a big threat to their annexing of the Pacific. So they attacked in 1941 pearl Harbor these entered America into the War. America declared war on Japan and then Germany declared war on the USA. 
 
To understand why Japan was on Germany's Side in WWI the roots go back to WWI 

In WWI Britain and France were locked in a stalemate with Germany. Russia was having internal problems and was starting to withdraw its troops. Russia would drop out of the war as the Communist revolted and took over. Britain and France was battered they were not really losing but not gaining any ground. They needed somebody to step in quickly with fresh troops. In 1916 the sinking of the Lusitania drew the USA into the War. That helped out things. But Britain and France also made a treaty with Japan and Italy if they entered the war and if Germany and its allies are defeated. Japan and Italy would be rewarded. Britain wanted Italy and Japan involved because they were part of the 7 Imperial powers. The Imperial Powers included: USA, Britain, France, Germany, Italy, Russia, and Japan.

Well Germany and their allies surrendered in 1918 and had harsh penalties put on them. Italy and Japan never got their promised rewards. This left bad feelings in Italy and Japan. As many thought their troops died for nothing. Then in the 1920's Italy and Japan would get new leaders. Italy would be taken over by Mussolini who was a brutal dictator. Japan would get a new leader who was hostile and a dictator. He built up Japan's armed forces. Then he started to want to annex other nations in the Pacific. Japans leadership invaded China in the 1930's. Now some have historians think Japan did this because they thought they were not taken seriously in the previous war and were taken advantage of.

Hitler got full control over Germany in 1932. Hitler made an alliance with Italy. Japans new leadership was very warm toward Germany. So they were called the Axis. Germany wanted to rule all of Europe, Italy wanted to spread into Africa, and Japan wanted the pacific. Now getting back to Japan. Japan started to take over Islands and countries in the Pacific. There was only another power in Japans way from having all control of the Pacific and that was the USA. Japan saw the USA as a big threat to their annexing of the Pacific. So they attacked in 1941 pearl Harbor these entered America into the War. America declared war on Japan and then Germany declared war on the USA. 
 
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