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here is a test that I found online, (or really it was my dad) and I have decided to post it here. just answer the questions. 
 
 1. Do you love God with all your heart, mind and soul?

2. If so, what do you DO to show you love Him?

3. Are you living a holy/set apart life? How do you know?

4. Since most Christians believe that the "Old Testament" was only for the Jews, are only Jews expected to live
holy lives? Show scriptural proof that Torah was "only for the Jews."

5. In your own words, explain what "the law" is and what "under the law" means.

6. Find a scripture commanding us to celebrate the Messiah's birth and that this holiday should be called "Christmas."

7. Provide scripture showing the Seventh Day Sabbath was changed to Sunday.

8. Provide scripture to show there are only two commandments.

9. Provide scripture to show why His seven Feasts/Appointed Times wouldn't apply to Christians.

10. Find scripture that says God's Divine Instructions in Righteousness (Torah) were ever negated.

11 Do you adhere to the commands of YHWH/The Father and the teachings of Jesus, or do you constantly quote
from the writings of Paul to show that God's Divine Instructions in Righteousness have been abolished?

12. If the law was nailed to the tree/cross, how can it now be in your heart?

 
this really puts things in perspective, huh. 
 
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though you guys would be interested in this.  
 
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by the way, Torah means the first 5 books of the bible. nothing added.
here is a test that I found online, (or really it was my dad) and I have decided to post it here. just answer the questions. 
 
 1. Do you love God with all your heart, mind and soul?

2. If so, what do you DO to show you love Him?

3. Are you living a holy/set apart life? How do you know?

4. Since most Christians believe that the "Old Testament" was only for the Jews, are only Jews expected to live
holy lives? Show scriptural proof that Torah was "only for the Jews."

5. In your own words, explain what "the law" is and what "under the law" means.

6. Find a scripture commanding us to celebrate the Messiah's birth and that this holiday should be called "Christmas."

7. Provide scripture showing the Seventh Day Sabbath was changed to Sunday.

8. Provide scripture to show there are only two commandments.

9. Provide scripture to show why His seven Feasts/Appointed Times wouldn't apply to Christians.

10. Find scripture that says God's Divine Instructions in Righteousness (Torah) were ever negated.

11 Do you adhere to the commands of YHWH/The Father and the teachings of Jesus, or do you constantly quote
from the writings of Paul to show that God's Divine Instructions in Righteousness have been abolished?

12. If the law was nailed to the tree/cross, how can it now be in your heart?

 
this really puts things in perspective, huh. 
 
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play4fun :  
mrfe :
 
though you guys would be interested in this.  
 
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by the way, Torah means the first 5 books of the bible. nothing added.
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bombchu link : is this a trick test? Cuz some of these things that were written on the test are not really...correct. For example, Christians don't believe that the Old Testament is only for the Jews. The old covenant in the Old Testament is gone because of the establishment of the new covenant, but Christians believe in the Old Testament. (Or am I just reading it wrong?) the question about Christmas and sabbath are the same thing. None of those are in the bible.
bombchu link : is this a trick test? Cuz some of these things that were written on the test are not really...correct. For example, Christians don't believe that the Old Testament is only for the Jews. The old covenant in the Old Testament is gone because of the establishment of the new covenant, but Christians believe in the Old Testament. (Or am I just reading it wrong?) the question about Christmas and sabbath are the same thing. None of those are in the bible.
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To be honest I'm Muslim.. And the Koran is based on both the bible and the torah.bit for us, the Muslims. The Koran is the purity of the three books.  nothing is added. But i might answer some of the questions

1. Do you love God with all your heart, mind and soul?
I'm a very spiritual person. I do believe in god with both my heart and soul.. But not with my mind.. I'm human.. And i keep human, and religion apart in my own live.. Since there are things that i can't NOT do. Like asking questions like why I'm alive? If you believe in god.. You never ask the question why. Because you know its all happens with the will of god.. I also think why does god allow raping upon children?.. This are question I'm forbidden to ask.. Because the will of god is SO difficult to understand.. That only god knows the answers to he's disusing.

2. If so, what do you DO to show you love Him?
i don't really know how i show my love to him.. I hate his creations.. The human being.. I hate the fact that he allowed humans to create more religions so that human can cause war out of the most stupidest things ever. And completely ignores all beings in nature. So that we humans can destroy earth.. Al thought of al that. I have great respect for our creator. And i think i show him  my love by trying to help out human kind in my own way. And also trying to explain people the thoughts behind religions. And also that I'm clear minded. And that i understand he's books. And do not make misconceptions out of it.

3. Are you living a holy/set apart life? How do you know?
i don't live in such.. I just live in a group apartment.. (well its a old church but it had nothing to do with religions)

4. Since most Christians believe that the "Old Testament" was only for the Jews, are only Jews expected to live
holy lives? Show scriptural proof that Torah was "only for the Jews."
i don't know about this part... the only thing i do know is the part of only for the Jews.
religion is for everyone. So even for the atheists who are open for new things. Or even for people who hate religion.. Because there is always something in your soul that says that you believe in god. Because that's a natural gift god gave us all. But not everyone want to realize this.
5. In your own words, explain what "the law" is and what "under the law" means.
The law eh?.. Well as what i know Christians had a lot of events. But here in the netherlands.carnival meanings are completely ignored..
drinking alcohol like there is no tomorrow. And the next day doing nothing because they have headache...
i don't know how it goes in other countries thought.. And christmass is even more corrupted in this world.. Making to much advertisement to buy toys for your children. Etc etc.. The whole peace feeling things and stuff are good.
for the rules.. We in the Islam have simple rules.. But they are all misunderstood..
females have the same rights as us. And they only wear  head kerchief
 to protect us males for our pleasure. And lust. This are just 2 simple and standard things..
for the Christian laws i have no idea.. Don't really care.. But what i do know is that they are similar to ours. But explained differently.
and they are also added A LOT by humans to make things easier..

11 Do you adhere to the commands of YHWH/The Father and the teachings of Jesus, or do you constantly quote
from the writings of Paul to show that God's Divine Instructions in Righteousness have been abolished?
this is to much text for me. But i don't believe in fathers... they are just people trying to play right hands of god.. So i don't really care about them to be honest.. There is only one holy and almighty being for me and that is god. And Muhammad was he's messenger. (so was Jesus and moss and Noah and so on..)

12. If the law was nailed to the tree/cross, how can it now be in your heart?
it can't even if the whole world was carved with these laws they will never be in your heart by just seeing or reading it.
these things are in your heart or not. And god gave us the free will to choice if we follow them or not.
so we can choose if we close our heart for these rules.. Or that we open our hearts for these rules/laws. Simple right?

I'm sorry if this was only for Christians.. But i believe all believers in the world are connected to one and the same aspect: God. And there is nothing different between it.. We human made it this way and that causes war..

Greetings to all, and may god bless you for today, tomorrow, forever. Yngwie
To be honest I'm Muslim.. And the Koran is based on both the bible and the torah.bit for us, the Muslims. The Koran is the purity of the three books.  nothing is added. But i might answer some of the questions

1. Do you love God with all your heart, mind and soul?
I'm a very spiritual person. I do believe in god with both my heart and soul.. But not with my mind.. I'm human.. And i keep human, and religion apart in my own live.. Since there are things that i can't NOT do. Like asking questions like why I'm alive? If you believe in god.. You never ask the question why. Because you know its all happens with the will of god.. I also think why does god allow raping upon children?.. This are question I'm forbidden to ask.. Because the will of god is SO difficult to understand.. That only god knows the answers to he's disusing.

2. If so, what do you DO to show you love Him?
i don't really know how i show my love to him.. I hate his creations.. The human being.. I hate the fact that he allowed humans to create more religions so that human can cause war out of the most stupidest things ever. And completely ignores all beings in nature. So that we humans can destroy earth.. Al thought of al that. I have great respect for our creator. And i think i show him  my love by trying to help out human kind in my own way. And also trying to explain people the thoughts behind religions. And also that I'm clear minded. And that i understand he's books. And do not make misconceptions out of it.

3. Are you living a holy/set apart life? How do you know?
i don't live in such.. I just live in a group apartment.. (well its a old church but it had nothing to do with religions)

4. Since most Christians believe that the "Old Testament" was only for the Jews, are only Jews expected to live
holy lives? Show scriptural proof that Torah was "only for the Jews."
i don't know about this part... the only thing i do know is the part of only for the Jews.
religion is for everyone. So even for the atheists who are open for new things. Or even for people who hate religion.. Because there is always something in your soul that says that you believe in god. Because that's a natural gift god gave us all. But not everyone want to realize this.
5. In your own words, explain what "the law" is and what "under the law" means.
The law eh?.. Well as what i know Christians had a lot of events. But here in the netherlands.carnival meanings are completely ignored..
drinking alcohol like there is no tomorrow. And the next day doing nothing because they have headache...
i don't know how it goes in other countries thought.. And christmass is even more corrupted in this world.. Making to much advertisement to buy toys for your children. Etc etc.. The whole peace feeling things and stuff are good.
for the rules.. We in the Islam have simple rules.. But they are all misunderstood..
females have the same rights as us. And they only wear  head kerchief
 to protect us males for our pleasure. And lust. This are just 2 simple and standard things..
for the Christian laws i have no idea.. Don't really care.. But what i do know is that they are similar to ours. But explained differently.
and they are also added A LOT by humans to make things easier..

11 Do you adhere to the commands of YHWH/The Father and the teachings of Jesus, or do you constantly quote
from the writings of Paul to show that God's Divine Instructions in Righteousness have been abolished?
this is to much text for me. But i don't believe in fathers... they are just people trying to play right hands of god.. So i don't really care about them to be honest.. There is only one holy and almighty being for me and that is god. And Muhammad was he's messenger. (so was Jesus and moss and Noah and so on..)

12. If the law was nailed to the tree/cross, how can it now be in your heart?
it can't even if the whole world was carved with these laws they will never be in your heart by just seeing or reading it.
these things are in your heart or not. And god gave us the free will to choice if we follow them or not.
so we can choose if we close our heart for these rules.. Or that we open our hearts for these rules/laws. Simple right?

I'm sorry if this was only for Christians.. But i believe all believers in the world are connected to one and the same aspect: God. And there is nothing different between it.. We human made it this way and that causes war..

Greetings to all, and may god bless you for today, tomorrow, forever. Yngwie
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bombchu link : This is a rather cynical test, and I'm not sure if I like the way it's worded. I think the intention is to get people to think, but it really comes across as an "everything you think you know is wrong" kind of ordeal. But I'll give it a shot. After that, I'll give you a little test of my own.
1. The true answer is no. If I were to answer yes, then I wouldn't be worried about my finances, my grades, or my future. I get angry with people when they wrong me. I think if any of us answer "yes," we're lying, even if we don't know it. I think what set Jesus apart from the rest of us was that He was able to love the Father with all of His heart. I don't think that Jesus was any more different than you and me when He came down as a man, because He was fully a man. He was subject to the same temptations and the same concerns as any of us. But He was able to set His eyes and His mind on the Father in Heaven, and so a lot of the miracles and works He accomplished were a result of that.

2. My answer previously was "no," but I think this question is flawed (although that is my opinion). I'm of the belief that all God really wants is our love, and the best way to show that is to spend time in His presence through worship, word study, and contemplation. Furthermore, showing that we love Him requires us to submit to His will, so our life's work and our purpose is a living testament to our love. Finally, showing love to God means showing love to others, something I can say that I have not perfected yet (nor do I really expect to in this lifetime), but it's something that I am improving on every single day.

3. At times I am, at times I'm not. When I neglect the will of God in my life, when I cave in to the desires of my flesh or allow the powers of darkness to speak into my life, I am not set apart. Now, I'm not saying that a hooded man comes into my room and speaks in my ear, nor am I saying that I go wild and do whatever it is that I want. However, I am saying that sometimes I allow thoughts that are not sanctified to take a real and tangible hold in my mind, and sometimes I fall into the trap of the flesh when I decide to lounge around, over eat, or what have you. The positive in all this is that there are many times, times that are increasing and extending as I grow in Christ, that I am set apart. That I do deny my flesh or do cast down those thoughts that exalt themselves. And with each time that happens, I feel myself embolden a little more.

4. I'm not sure the wording of the question is even accurate. The Old Testament contains Jewish law, but is not "only for the Jews." I'm pretty certain that most Christians don't believe that at all. Rather, many of us believe that because the Mosaic Law was fulfilled through the death of Jesus, we are restricted by the laws of the Jews. Remember that the only people Jesus rebuked were the Sadducees and the Pharisees, the people in charge of teaching and upholding the laws.

The Old Testament has a number of purposes, in my opinion, that are absolutely important to a Christian life. It shows us the destructive power of God when mankind turns away. This, to me, is EXCELLENT, because if the God with that kind of power loves me and is on my side, I'm not going to lose to an enemy who is all smoke and mirrors. It provides us a history of the Jewish people, helping us to understand the context and the world that Jesus had to come down to redeem. Through its variety of characters like Joseph, Moses, and David, it gives us a glimpse into who Jesus was. It prophesies the coming of the King, Jesus, and tells us of the many works He would fulfill - before He fulfilled them. It helps to guide us with a moral compass, particularly with the Ten Commandments. In short, the Old Testament is the foundation, the set up, for Jesus's triumphant victory in the New Testament.

5. The law is the set of rules that guides a people, and being under the law means that you are subjected to the rules and regulations of the law.

6. There is no scripture commanding this. Rather, it is a gesture Christians show to remember the situation surrounding the birth of our Savior. Regardless of its rampant commercialization, the core of Christmas is worshiping Christ. Need there be a scripture commanding this? Are you insinuating that we are wrong for celebrating this holiday?

7. The point of the Sabbath isn't that it is on Sunday, it is that we rest and give glory to God, because even He rested on the seventh day. Regardless of what that "seventh day" is, to me, is irrelevant.

8. The matter isn't that there are only "two commandments," but that there are the two most important commandments. Mark 12: 28-31 shows us this that "loving God with all of our hearts" and "loving our neighbors as we love ourselves" are the two most important commandments we can uphold. Furthermore, it can be argued that following these commandments automatically means that the Ten are upheld and fulfilled.

9. I can't answer this question as I do not adequately understand the context behind the feasts and times for a thought-out answer.

10. "Negated" and "fulfilled" have two different meanings. "Negated" means that the law no longer exists, but the law does exist. When Jesus fulfilled the law, He removed us from the shackles of that law and gave us freedom.

11. This question is pretty flawed. First, you are supposing that there are only two possible answers to this question. Second, this question is supposing that either the commands of God and the teachings of Jesus were wrong, or the writings of Paul was wrong. I can't answer this question.

12. This question can be viewed a variety of different ways. When I read this question, I see it as the consequences of the law (or lack of following it) were nailed to the cross along with Jesus. As in, the consequences of our sin were subdued when Jesus died on the cross. Furthermore, I question the insinuation that the "law" discussed in Romans 2:14-15 is the same as the Mosaic Law. I think what this scripture is saying is that morality and following God is intrinsically written in our hearts, even as Gentiles, because we are all created in God's image.

I hope these answers suffice. Feel free to disagree/agree with me as you will. Now, let me give you a test:

Do people know you are a Christian by your t-shirts, your presence in church, the books you hold, or the words you speak? Or do they know you are Christian by your actions and your love? This, to me, is the ultimate test of Christianity, and we'll find that we improve as we continue in our walk.
bombchu link : This is a rather cynical test, and I'm not sure if I like the way it's worded. I think the intention is to get people to think, but it really comes across as an "everything you think you know is wrong" kind of ordeal. But I'll give it a shot. After that, I'll give you a little test of my own.
1. The true answer is no. If I were to answer yes, then I wouldn't be worried about my finances, my grades, or my future. I get angry with people when they wrong me. I think if any of us answer "yes," we're lying, even if we don't know it. I think what set Jesus apart from the rest of us was that He was able to love the Father with all of His heart. I don't think that Jesus was any more different than you and me when He came down as a man, because He was fully a man. He was subject to the same temptations and the same concerns as any of us. But He was able to set His eyes and His mind on the Father in Heaven, and so a lot of the miracles and works He accomplished were a result of that.

2. My answer previously was "no," but I think this question is flawed (although that is my opinion). I'm of the belief that all God really wants is our love, and the best way to show that is to spend time in His presence through worship, word study, and contemplation. Furthermore, showing that we love Him requires us to submit to His will, so our life's work and our purpose is a living testament to our love. Finally, showing love to God means showing love to others, something I can say that I have not perfected yet (nor do I really expect to in this lifetime), but it's something that I am improving on every single day.

3. At times I am, at times I'm not. When I neglect the will of God in my life, when I cave in to the desires of my flesh or allow the powers of darkness to speak into my life, I am not set apart. Now, I'm not saying that a hooded man comes into my room and speaks in my ear, nor am I saying that I go wild and do whatever it is that I want. However, I am saying that sometimes I allow thoughts that are not sanctified to take a real and tangible hold in my mind, and sometimes I fall into the trap of the flesh when I decide to lounge around, over eat, or what have you. The positive in all this is that there are many times, times that are increasing and extending as I grow in Christ, that I am set apart. That I do deny my flesh or do cast down those thoughts that exalt themselves. And with each time that happens, I feel myself embolden a little more.

4. I'm not sure the wording of the question is even accurate. The Old Testament contains Jewish law, but is not "only for the Jews." I'm pretty certain that most Christians don't believe that at all. Rather, many of us believe that because the Mosaic Law was fulfilled through the death of Jesus, we are restricted by the laws of the Jews. Remember that the only people Jesus rebuked were the Sadducees and the Pharisees, the people in charge of teaching and upholding the laws.

The Old Testament has a number of purposes, in my opinion, that are absolutely important to a Christian life. It shows us the destructive power of God when mankind turns away. This, to me, is EXCELLENT, because if the God with that kind of power loves me and is on my side, I'm not going to lose to an enemy who is all smoke and mirrors. It provides us a history of the Jewish people, helping us to understand the context and the world that Jesus had to come down to redeem. Through its variety of characters like Joseph, Moses, and David, it gives us a glimpse into who Jesus was. It prophesies the coming of the King, Jesus, and tells us of the many works He would fulfill - before He fulfilled them. It helps to guide us with a moral compass, particularly with the Ten Commandments. In short, the Old Testament is the foundation, the set up, for Jesus's triumphant victory in the New Testament.

5. The law is the set of rules that guides a people, and being under the law means that you are subjected to the rules and regulations of the law.

6. There is no scripture commanding this. Rather, it is a gesture Christians show to remember the situation surrounding the birth of our Savior. Regardless of its rampant commercialization, the core of Christmas is worshiping Christ. Need there be a scripture commanding this? Are you insinuating that we are wrong for celebrating this holiday?

7. The point of the Sabbath isn't that it is on Sunday, it is that we rest and give glory to God, because even He rested on the seventh day. Regardless of what that "seventh day" is, to me, is irrelevant.

8. The matter isn't that there are only "two commandments," but that there are the two most important commandments. Mark 12: 28-31 shows us this that "loving God with all of our hearts" and "loving our neighbors as we love ourselves" are the two most important commandments we can uphold. Furthermore, it can be argued that following these commandments automatically means that the Ten are upheld and fulfilled.

9. I can't answer this question as I do not adequately understand the context behind the feasts and times for a thought-out answer.

10. "Negated" and "fulfilled" have two different meanings. "Negated" means that the law no longer exists, but the law does exist. When Jesus fulfilled the law, He removed us from the shackles of that law and gave us freedom.

11. This question is pretty flawed. First, you are supposing that there are only two possible answers to this question. Second, this question is supposing that either the commands of God and the teachings of Jesus were wrong, or the writings of Paul was wrong. I can't answer this question.

12. This question can be viewed a variety of different ways. When I read this question, I see it as the consequences of the law (or lack of following it) were nailed to the cross along with Jesus. As in, the consequences of our sin were subdued when Jesus died on the cross. Furthermore, I question the insinuation that the "law" discussed in Romans 2:14-15 is the same as the Mosaic Law. I think what this scripture is saying is that morality and following God is intrinsically written in our hearts, even as Gentiles, because we are all created in God's image.

I hope these answers suffice. Feel free to disagree/agree with me as you will. Now, let me give you a test:

Do people know you are a Christian by your t-shirts, your presence in church, the books you hold, or the words you speak? Or do they know you are Christian by your actions and your love? This, to me, is the ultimate test of Christianity, and we'll find that we improve as we continue in our walk.
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bombchu link : I also would like to know what this test is actually trying to test....
bombchu link : I also would like to know what this test is actually trying to test....
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play4fun : I'm not sure if this "test" is actually so much a test of knowledge or anything more than an attempt to "test" a person's commitment to Christianity. I don't think it's well done, but then again, I'm sure it's not exactly academic in nature. It seems to be something that was supposed to provoke thought, and I definitely hope that my answers didn't come across as demeaning. At any rate, I'm at least glad that someone is willing to ask SOME questions, even if they aren't the right ones. Too often nowadays there are too many people who ignore the elephant in the room, too afraid to offend anyone. Mind you, I don't think that's a problem here. From my short stint at Vizzed I've seen a diverse community full of people who aren't afraid to give their opinion, nor are they afraid to back it up. But it's definitely a problem that I see every day in society.
play4fun : I'm not sure if this "test" is actually so much a test of knowledge or anything more than an attempt to "test" a person's commitment to Christianity. I don't think it's well done, but then again, I'm sure it's not exactly academic in nature. It seems to be something that was supposed to provoke thought, and I definitely hope that my answers didn't come across as demeaning. At any rate, I'm at least glad that someone is willing to ask SOME questions, even if they aren't the right ones. Too often nowadays there are too many people who ignore the elephant in the room, too afraid to offend anyone. Mind you, I don't think that's a problem here. From my short stint at Vizzed I've seen a diverse community full of people who aren't afraid to give their opinion, nor are they afraid to back it up. But it's definitely a problem that I see every day in society.
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1. No.

2. See above. I try to repent.

3. I dont think so.

4. There is none.

5. You need redemption.

6. There is none.

7. As far as I know there is none.

8. There is none.

9. The what now?

10. Nah.

11. Neither I hope.

12. My heart is the tree then.
1. No.

2. See above. I try to repent.

3. I dont think so.

4. There is none.

5. You need redemption.

6. There is none.

7. As far as I know there is none.

8. There is none.

9. The what now?

10. Nah.

11. Neither I hope.

12. My heart is the tree then.
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   I think this is a pretty dangerous thread. There should be a separation of Church and Video Games if you get me....

   I really think you should become as educated as you can on the matter of EVERY religion. Then make a decision when your an adult.

   And please hear me out. I am not, not, not, not, NOT saying that if you are young you are dumb and you don't know what your getting into. I really don't mean that. Their are some brilliant young people on this website. But religion of any kind is not to be thrown in peoples faces.
   I think this is a pretty dangerous thread. There should be a separation of Church and Video Games if you get me....

   I really think you should become as educated as you can on the matter of EVERY religion. Then make a decision when your an adult.

   And please hear me out. I am not, not, not, not, NOT saying that if you are young you are dumb and you don't know what your getting into. I really don't mean that. Their are some brilliant young people on this website. But religion of any kind is not to be thrown in peoples faces.
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Dragoon26 : ...You do realize that this is in the Christian Conservative forum...right?
Dragoon26 : ...You do realize that this is in the Christian Conservative forum...right?
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Dragoon26 : I'm not so sure if religion is being thrown into anyone's faces here. Considering that this is the Christian Conservatives board, I think that it's to be expected that religious discussions of some form will take place here. I'm not sure how you feel, but there are many who think religious discussions of any kind constitute as "throwing it in someone's face," and I'm going to say that isn't the case.

Saying that it's a "dangerous thread" is... well, I disagree. Dangerous is indoctrination of young children to believe that certain people are bad. Dangerous is espousing your views, then attacking people when they disagree. A discussion, on the other hand, is oftentimes fruitful, and we can learn so much about each other simply by talking about it. Whether or not you want to admit it, religion forms a lot of most people's opinions on how the world is, much like science and people's experiences. To disqualify religion is to disenfranchise billions of people in the world, telling them that their opinion "isn't worthy."

So what if people get fired up? Good! Sometimes for people to be inspired to make a move or research something, their feelings have to be hurt. Their confidence has to take a hit. Something in their psyche must be wavered, or else they'll stay the same ignorant person they always were.

And when I say "ignorant," I'm not saying they're stupid or they lack knowledge. Rather, I am saying that their one-sided perspective will become multifaceted. Even if they find they disagree with something, they'll at least have an understanding of what it is they're disagreeing with and why they disagree with it. This is important if we want to have a society of people that can get along. It's definitely one of the reasons why I can have friends who are the polar opposite of me. I might not agree with them, but I respect their opinions and their reasons behind those opinions. And the best part is? The reverse is true for them.

So fear not when you see a thread discussing religion or religious views. Don't worry that there will be issues if someone talks about Jesus. Ultimately, I think these discussions are good for everyone. As for us, we are a group of Christian believers who love to discuss both Christianity and video games, and because we walk our lives in our faith, there is not really a separation of the two. But we aren't going to throw it in your face. We're just going to keep being ourselves, growing one day at a time.
Dragoon26 : I'm not so sure if religion is being thrown into anyone's faces here. Considering that this is the Christian Conservatives board, I think that it's to be expected that religious discussions of some form will take place here. I'm not sure how you feel, but there are many who think religious discussions of any kind constitute as "throwing it in someone's face," and I'm going to say that isn't the case.

Saying that it's a "dangerous thread" is... well, I disagree. Dangerous is indoctrination of young children to believe that certain people are bad. Dangerous is espousing your views, then attacking people when they disagree. A discussion, on the other hand, is oftentimes fruitful, and we can learn so much about each other simply by talking about it. Whether or not you want to admit it, religion forms a lot of most people's opinions on how the world is, much like science and people's experiences. To disqualify religion is to disenfranchise billions of people in the world, telling them that their opinion "isn't worthy."

So what if people get fired up? Good! Sometimes for people to be inspired to make a move or research something, their feelings have to be hurt. Their confidence has to take a hit. Something in their psyche must be wavered, or else they'll stay the same ignorant person they always were.

And when I say "ignorant," I'm not saying they're stupid or they lack knowledge. Rather, I am saying that their one-sided perspective will become multifaceted. Even if they find they disagree with something, they'll at least have an understanding of what it is they're disagreeing with and why they disagree with it. This is important if we want to have a society of people that can get along. It's definitely one of the reasons why I can have friends who are the polar opposite of me. I might not agree with them, but I respect their opinions and their reasons behind those opinions. And the best part is? The reverse is true for them.

So fear not when you see a thread discussing religion or religious views. Don't worry that there will be issues if someone talks about Jesus. Ultimately, I think these discussions are good for everyone. As for us, we are a group of Christian believers who love to discuss both Christianity and video games, and because we walk our lives in our faith, there is not really a separation of the two. But we aren't going to throw it in your face. We're just going to keep being ourselves, growing one day at a time.
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   I do. I look at New Posts and if something catches my eye I check it out This was one of those. Clearly that is where a thread like this belongs. In Christian Conservative...

   I will say... religion aside... that this is a dangerous thread. 
   On the matter of religion. If I'm not allowed to post here because I am not Christian enough or Conservative enough well then I was unaware of the specifications and I apologize. 

   I wasn't offensive, crude or bias. Just saying my peace.
   

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   I do. I look at New Posts and if something catches my eye I check it out This was one of those. Clearly that is where a thread like this belongs. In Christian Conservative...

   I will say... religion aside... that this is a dangerous thread. 
   On the matter of religion. If I'm not allowed to post here because I am not Christian enough or Conservative enough well then I was unaware of the specifications and I apologize. 

   I wasn't offensive, crude or bias. Just saying my peace.
   
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Dragoon26 : Well, it wasn't play4fun who responded, but I'm sure he'd respond in a similar way.

Anyways, as far as I'm aware, you're welcome to post here! There's no specifications for your preferences (and if there are, I'll fight on your behalf to post here!). I was just simply responding to what you had to say. As I was saying before, it's a discussion, and discussions are good. And while you are here, if you have any questions about anything, feel free to ask us! I'm still fairly new in my faith and I have an interesting testimony of my coming to Jesus. I'm sure there are others who have the same thing going on, and most of them won't be shy if you've got anything you want to know.

See, that's the beauty of discussing things. You can learn a bit about what makes me me, and I can learn a bit about what makes you you. And we can learn a lot about ourselves and what makes us us, too! So long as we can carry on in a civil fashion, things should be peachy.

So in the interest of discussion, let me ask you this: Why do you think this is a dangerous thread? I can tell you that in one way, the original topic could be perceived to be somewhat condemning, especially if you're analytical like me. In that respect, I would say that it's more dangerous to the perception of Christians (which is actually very important!) than it is to anyone else.

But I'd like to hear your take on it. What do you think?
Dragoon26 : Well, it wasn't play4fun who responded, but I'm sure he'd respond in a similar way.

Anyways, as far as I'm aware, you're welcome to post here! There's no specifications for your preferences (and if there are, I'll fight on your behalf to post here!). I was just simply responding to what you had to say. As I was saying before, it's a discussion, and discussions are good. And while you are here, if you have any questions about anything, feel free to ask us! I'm still fairly new in my faith and I have an interesting testimony of my coming to Jesus. I'm sure there are others who have the same thing going on, and most of them won't be shy if you've got anything you want to know.

See, that's the beauty of discussing things. You can learn a bit about what makes me me, and I can learn a bit about what makes you you. And we can learn a lot about ourselves and what makes us us, too! So long as we can carry on in a civil fashion, things should be peachy.

So in the interest of discussion, let me ask you this: Why do you think this is a dangerous thread? I can tell you that in one way, the original topic could be perceived to be somewhat condemning, especially if you're analytical like me. In that respect, I would say that it's more dangerous to the perception of Christians (which is actually very important!) than it is to anyone else.

But I'd like to hear your take on it. What do you think?
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Did I fail the test then?

Oh and to contribute to the discussion.I think the conservative part is maybe not something that would suit this forum well, since all sort of ideas have been discussed here. Christian, non christian and different views on christianity. Not only conservative or other orthodox views.

Only straight forward abuse has been not tolerated and I well... Believe that is how many of the people here wish to have it.

Did I fail the test then?

Oh and to contribute to the discussion.I think the conservative part is maybe not something that would suit this forum well, since all sort of ideas have been discussed here. Christian, non christian and different views on christianity. Not only conservative or other orthodox views.

Only straight forward abuse has been not tolerated and I well... Believe that is how many of the people here wish to have it.

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Dragoon26 : that isn't the point I was trying to make. You are welcome to discussing things here, but this thread has nothing to do with what you were talking about. It definitely has nothing to do with separation of church and ...video games. Please stay on topic. You are also welcome to discuss about your topic by creating a thread about your topic in this forum.
Dragoon26 : that isn't the point I was trying to make. You are welcome to discussing things here, but this thread has nothing to do with what you were talking about. It definitely has nothing to do with separation of church and ...video games. Please stay on topic. You are also welcome to discuss about your topic by creating a thread about your topic in this forum.
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play4fun :   Yep. My bad for sure.. wrong place for it anyway. My apologies

play4fun :   Yep. My bad for sure.. wrong place for it anyway. My apologies
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Yngwie : Never feel that you can't post in a thread because you are not Christian. If anything, I think your view is even more encouraged. One of the most important things we need to become a truly accepting people is to have more understanding on different religious views.
Yngwie : Never feel that you can't post in a thread because you are not Christian. If anything, I think your view is even more encouraged. One of the most important things we need to become a truly accepting people is to have more understanding on different religious views.
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rcarter2 :
This and the fact that we never really seem to agree on what is supposed to go to here and what goes to the debate and logic part of the forum.
rcarter2 :
This and the fact that we never really seem to agree on what is supposed to go to here and what goes to the debate and logic part of the forum.
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