Forum Links
Related Threads
Coming Soon
Thread Information
Views
1,114
Replies
11
Rating
7
Status
CLOSED
Thread
Creator
Creator
tgags123
01-15-19 09:28 AM
01-15-19 09:28 AM
Last
Post
Post
Blacksmith84
01-03-20 11:29 PM
01-03-20 11:29 PM
Views: 742
Today: 0
Users: 31 unique
Today: 0
Users: 31 unique
Thread Actions
Thread Closed
New Thread

New Poll

Order
A Rant About Modern Music
01-15-19 09:28 AM
tgags123 is Offline
| ID: 1366680 | 412 Words

| ID: 1366680 | 412 Words
tgags123
Davideo123
Davideo123
Level: 171





POSTS: 7841/10012
POST EXP: 617798
LVL EXP: 66482130
CP: 40321.1
VIZ: 5785915





POSTS: 7841/10012
POST EXP: 617798
LVL EXP: 66482130
CP: 40321.1
VIZ: 5785915

Likes: 5 Dislikes: 0
I drove my mom to work this morning. I took her car, which means I had to listen to the radio instead of playing music from my phone, because she doesn't have an aux and Bluetooth is annoying to set up. On the way there, a new song from A Great Big World came on, and I got excited. I was a big fan of Say Something, Already Home, and Hold Each Other, so I was excited to have new music from them. That excitement lasted about 10 seconds, and then I realized their new song (titled "Younger") is exactly the same as every other modern pop song.
Every popular song nowadays songs exactly the same, and I blame the Chainsmokers. It was fine when they were the only ones doing it, but ever since Closer, every musical artist in the world has copied their style. I'm not sure what the technical name is for the type of "instrumentals" they use. I put "instrumentals" in quotes, because I'm fairly certain they don't use a single real instrument, just a computer. Regardless of what the proper term is, those computer sounds have found their way into every song released in the past three years, including "Younger". The method is simple. Start with a short verse. Then your pre-chorus, which is usually a few lines that includes the name of the song. Then your actual chorus, which is a section of computer sounds with no words, followed by a word or two from the pre-chorus (usually the title of the song), then another section of the same computer sounds, and the same word or two from the pre-chorus again. Repeat that two more times (but Every song on the radio sounds like this now, and I hate it. What happened to lyricism? What happened to instruments? What happened to choruses that you can sing BECAUSE THEY ACTUALLY HAD WORDS IN THEM, instead of having to hum? People rip on rap music all the time because rappers have "no talent" or it's "not real music" but at least they actually write words and put effort into their songs. I could write a modern pop hit in five minutes. Anyone else feel the same way? If not, please feel free to tell me why I'm wrong. (Damn, how did I become a grumpy old man complaining about "back in my day" so quickly?) Every popular song nowadays songs exactly the same, and I blame the Chainsmokers. It was fine when they were the only ones doing it, but ever since Closer, every musical artist in the world has copied their style. I'm not sure what the technical name is for the type of "instrumentals" they use. I put "instrumentals" in quotes, because I'm fairly certain they don't use a single real instrument, just a computer. Regardless of what the proper term is, those computer sounds have found their way into every song released in the past three years, including "Younger". The method is simple. Start with a short verse. Then your pre-chorus, which is usually a few lines that includes the name of the song. Then your actual chorus, which is a section of computer sounds with no words, followed by a word or two from the pre-chorus (usually the title of the song), then another section of the same computer sounds, and the same word or two from the pre-chorus again. Repeat that two more times (but Every song on the radio sounds like this now, and I hate it. What happened to lyricism? What happened to instruments? What happened to choruses that you can sing BECAUSE THEY ACTUALLY HAD WORDS IN THEM, instead of having to hum? People rip on rap music all the time because rappers have "no talent" or it's "not real music" but at least they actually write words and put effort into their songs. I could write a modern pop hit in five minutes. Anyone else feel the same way? If not, please feel free to tell me why I'm wrong. (Damn, how did I become a grumpy old man complaining about "back in my day" so quickly?) |
Global Moderator
Affected by 'Carpal Tunnel Syndrome'
Registered: 04-26-13
Location: Florida
Last Post: 12 hours
Last Active: 1 hour
2x Tour de Vizzed Champion |
Affected by 'Carpal Tunnel Syndrome'
Registered: 04-26-13
Location: Florida
Last Post: 12 hours
Last Active: 1 hour
(edited by tgags123 on 01-15-19 09:29 AM) Post Rating: 5 Liked By: gamerforlifeforever, no 8120, Slyshiyoshi, Sword Legion, tyranit,
01-15-19 11:53 AM
EX Palen is Offline
| ID: 1366711 | 258 Words

| ID: 1366711 | 258 Words
EX Palen
Spanish Davideo7
Spanish Davideo7
Level: 140





POSTS: 4661/6326
POST EXP: 1133776
LVL EXP: 33130284
CP: 190988.3
VIZ: 10964499





POSTS: 4661/6326
POST EXP: 1133776
LVL EXP: 33130284
CP: 190988.3
VIZ: 10964499

Likes: 1 Dislikes: 0
Well, this style of music isn't something new. It's just that now it's mainstream. Ever since the 70s and more prominently the 80s, electronic sounds were taking the world by storm. Many popular bands from that era started to include synthesizers in their hits, and they stayed through the 90s as dance music properly exploded. The 21st century has just followed that, and thus electronic sounds are now nearly omnipresent. I must say, though, that I don't like electronic sounds become prominent in a band that doesn't really promote the use of synthesizers or mixers. Those can just stay on the sidelines to support the music, letting the lyrics to stand out and be sung by everyone. The best example is the song Celebration, by Madonna, most specifically the videoclip version. If a DJ is making the song, then it can include as many computer sounds as they want. If the musician, or one or more members of the band, play synthesizers and other electronic instruments, then they can include as much of that as they want. But bands, musicians or singers that don't actually play or use those instruments shouldn't include them in high numbers, because that's not the kind of music they make, they're known for something else than just playful tunes. The good old days where synthesizers were only abused by techno bands and never Ever since the 70s and more prominently the 80s, electronic sounds were taking the world by storm. Many popular bands from that era started to include synthesizers in their hits, and they stayed through the 90s as dance music properly exploded. The 21st century has just followed that, and thus electronic sounds are now nearly omnipresent. I must say, though, that I don't like electronic sounds become prominent in a band that doesn't really promote the use of synthesizers or mixers. Those can just stay on the sidelines to support the music, letting the lyrics to stand out and be sung by everyone. The best example is the song Celebration, by Madonna, most specifically the videoclip version. If a DJ is making the song, then it can include as many computer sounds as they want. If the musician, or one or more members of the band, play synthesizers and other electronic instruments, then they can include as much of that as they want. But bands, musicians or singers that don't actually play or use those instruments shouldn't include them in high numbers, because that's not the kind of music they make, they're known for something else than just playful tunes. The good old days where synthesizers were only abused by techno bands and never |
Administrator
Site Staff Manager, Content Writer, Console Manager
Affected by 'Laziness Syndrome'
Registered: 07-03-13
Location: Barcelona, Spain
Last Post: 9 days
Last Active: 21 hours
Site Staff Manager, Content Writer, Console Manager
Vizzed #1 Hardstyle fan |
Affected by 'Laziness Syndrome'
Registered: 07-03-13
Location: Barcelona, Spain
Last Post: 9 days
Last Active: 21 hours
Post Rating: 1 Liked By: gamerforlifeforever,
01-15-19 12:50 PM
tgags123 is Offline
| ID: 1366716 | 76 Words

| ID: 1366716 | 76 Words
tgags123
Davideo123
Davideo123
Level: 171





POSTS: 7859/10012
POST EXP: 617798
LVL EXP: 66482130
CP: 40321.1
VIZ: 5785915





POSTS: 7859/10012
POST EXP: 617798
LVL EXP: 66482130
CP: 40321.1
VIZ: 5785915

Likes: 0 Dislikes: 0
EX Palen : Yeah, I know electronic music isn't new, I was referring to the types of songs you discussed later on in your post. Electronic sounds in general aren't what I have a problem with, there are a lot of songs that implement them very well. What I hate is that every song out there follows the same exact formula, and forces these annoying instrumental choruses into songs that would be so much better without them. |
Global Moderator
Affected by 'Carpal Tunnel Syndrome'
Registered: 04-26-13
Location: Florida
Last Post: 12 hours
Last Active: 1 hour
2x Tour de Vizzed Champion |
Affected by 'Carpal Tunnel Syndrome'
Registered: 04-26-13
Location: Florida
Last Post: 12 hours
Last Active: 1 hour
01-22-19 11:46 AM
tyranit is Offline
| ID: 1367817 | 124 Words
| ID: 1367817 | 124 Words
tyranit
Level: 80





POSTS: 1580/1599
POST EXP: 115959
LVL EXP: 4667481
CP: 9812.7
VIZ: 123251





POSTS: 1580/1599
POST EXP: 115959
LVL EXP: 4667481
CP: 9812.7
VIZ: 123251

Likes: 0 Dislikes: 0
I agree the fact that the current style of music being given to those over the radio is mostly the same, and arguably trash when it comes to actual music theory, as they are very, very simple ideas that are made to feel familiar to people, hence the reason why it sounds the same to those who don't favor this style of familiarity. However, the fact that the internet exists makes it so much easier to find new music and listen to people who are barely known, making it easy to invest yourself in a genre or two that you prefer, so I don't see too much of a problem with those songs being similar, because I can easily find music that suits me. |
Trusted Member
Affected by 'Laziness Syndrome'
Registered: 10-14-10
Last Post: 1754 days
Last Active: 1163 days
Affected by 'Laziness Syndrome'
Registered: 10-14-10
Last Post: 1754 days
Last Active: 1163 days
01-22-19 01:32 PM
IgorBird122 is Offline
| ID: 1367832 | 218 Words

| ID: 1367832 | 218 Words
IgorBird122
The_IB122
The_IB122
Level: 142





POSTS: 6135/6414
POST EXP: 526201
LVL EXP: 34506509
CP: 40936.9
VIZ: 780236





POSTS: 6135/6414
POST EXP: 526201
LVL EXP: 34506509
CP: 40936.9
VIZ: 780236

Likes: 1 Dislikes: 0
All I can say is that a majority of today's music is nothing but pure cabbages now a days, Like you mentioned, it's basically the same thing over and over and over again, and I hate that, I like when music has more variety in each of their songs. Plus another thing that ticks me off about modern music is the lack of effort that the so-called "musicians" make in their music, most of the mainstream songs played today, especially pop songs, I can make an entire album in like 15 minutes, and boom, done, where most of the bands I listen to has taken them like days to weeks just to complete one song perfectly. Another thing I mentioned is the Mainstream, sorry, I don't follow cabbagesty Mainstream bands, yeah, you might play a bunch of their cabbages on MTV (although they don't even play music videos anymore, even despite that they are called a "Music" channel), VH1, YouTube, iTunes, or any other source of music media, but sorry, it's not my cup of tea, nor ever will be. The closest things I listen to in the terms of "MainStream" is if they were big in the MainStream between 1996-2003 (basically, at the Turn of the Millennium), not before nor after, but other than that, that's it. Plus another thing that ticks me off about modern music is the lack of effort that the so-called "musicians" make in their music, most of the mainstream songs played today, especially pop songs, I can make an entire album in like 15 minutes, and boom, done, where most of the bands I listen to has taken them like days to weeks just to complete one song perfectly. Another thing I mentioned is the Mainstream, sorry, I don't follow cabbagesty Mainstream bands, yeah, you might play a bunch of their cabbages on MTV (although they don't even play music videos anymore, even despite that they are called a "Music" channel), VH1, YouTube, iTunes, or any other source of music media, but sorry, it's not my cup of tea, nor ever will be. The closest things I listen to in the terms of "MainStream" is if they were big in the MainStream between 1996-2003 (basically, at the Turn of the Millennium), not before nor after, but other than that, that's it. |
Vizzed Elite
Affected by 'Laziness Syndrome'
Registered: 01-07-13
Location: The Big Easy
Last Post: 1865 days
Last Active: 1850 days
The Shadow King |
Affected by 'Laziness Syndrome'
Registered: 01-07-13
Location: The Big Easy
Last Post: 1865 days
Last Active: 1850 days
Post Rating: 1 Liked By: gamerforlifeforever,
07-05-19 05:24 AM
Rayman85 is Offline
| ID: 1373053 | 200 Words
| ID: 1373053 | 200 Words
Rayman85
Canadian Eagle
Canadian Eagle
Level: 26





POSTS: 18/133
POST EXP: 12298
LVL EXP: 98939
CP: 6310.8
VIZ: 337034





POSTS: 18/133
POST EXP: 12298
LVL EXP: 98939
CP: 6310.8
VIZ: 337034

Likes: 0 Dislikes: 0
It's plain and simple; the only thing wrong with modern music is Justin Beiber. He looks like Junior from CarnEvil, he has a very notable petty criminal record, and his all of his songs are the absolute worst of all-time and simply nothing comes even close in terms of sheer crapiness.
I should clarify that I'm crapping all over the modern, punk-like, post-bullethead Justin Beiber. The original bullethead Justin Beiber is actually really good. Eenie Meenie was really awesome (though Sean Kingston was also involved in that, but Justin was no hinderance), Baby is funny and silly yet pathetically overhated (It's not that bad.), his singing voice was good, and he had a good reputation complete with no petty crime records or hanging around s***ty women. That being said, he's like Conker the Squirrel; he used to be good but one of many (He was just another young boy celebrity at the beginning.), so to make him stand out, he became trashy, raunchy, vulgar, and overall crappy. It's sucks that people like his modern incarnation because it's really f***ing terrible for the reasons I've explained earlier. To end this, he's done nothing good since, but a hell lot of bad. I should clarify that I'm crapping all over the modern, punk-like, post-bullethead Justin Beiber. The original bullethead Justin Beiber is actually really good. Eenie Meenie was really awesome (though Sean Kingston was also involved in that, but Justin was no hinderance), Baby is funny and silly yet pathetically overhated (It's not that bad.), his singing voice was good, and he had a good reputation complete with no petty crime records or hanging around s***ty women. That being said, he's like Conker the Squirrel; he used to be good but one of many (He was just another young boy celebrity at the beginning.), so to make him stand out, he became trashy, raunchy, vulgar, and overall crappy. It's sucks that people like his modern incarnation because it's really f***ing terrible for the reasons I've explained earlier. To end this, he's done nothing good since, but a hell lot of bad. |
Member
Affected by 'Laziness Syndrome'
Registered: 12-25-13
Location: Canada
Last Post: 1959 days
Last Active: 1948 days
Affected by 'Laziness Syndrome'
Registered: 12-25-13
Location: Canada
Last Post: 1959 days
Last Active: 1948 days
08-08-19 04:25 PM
plasticinsanity is Offline
| ID: 1374650 | 99 Words
| ID: 1374650 | 99 Words
Level: 53





POSTS: 704/731
POST EXP: 34034
LVL EXP: 1147141
CP: 2622.1
VIZ: 68029





POSTS: 704/731
POST EXP: 34034
LVL EXP: 1147141
CP: 2622.1
VIZ: 68029

Likes: 0 Dislikes: 0
In order for a song to be released, it has to be approved by the artist's record label. Once an artist has signed, if the label refuses to issue a recording for a song, the artist is basically gagged by the label until they're released.
You're right - a lot of music is very similar nowadays. I like some mainstream stuff, but the "generic, off-brand, no name" bubble gum pop gone slightly techno, is what's guaranteed to get repeat plays. eventually that will fade away, as a new fad comes around. when in doubt, conway twitty your way out. You're right - a lot of music is very similar nowadays. I like some mainstream stuff, but the "generic, off-brand, no name" bubble gum pop gone slightly techno, is what's guaranteed to get repeat plays. eventually that will fade away, as a new fad comes around. when in doubt, conway twitty your way out. |
Trusted Member
Affected by 'Laziness Syndrome'
Registered: 02-25-16
Location: Manitoba, Canada
Last Post: 1103 days
Last Active: 237 days
I AM THE LIZARD QUEEN |
Affected by 'Laziness Syndrome'
Registered: 02-25-16
Location: Manitoba, Canada
Last Post: 1103 days
Last Active: 237 days
10-17-19 03:58 AM
TouchMaster97 is Offline
| ID: 1375180 | 210 Words
| ID: 1375180 | 210 Words
TouchMaster97
Level: 51





POSTS: 489/659
POST EXP: 34837
LVL EXP: 954316
CP: 4926.1
VIZ: 207096





POSTS: 489/659
POST EXP: 34837
LVL EXP: 954316
CP: 4926.1
VIZ: 207096

Likes: 0 Dislikes: 0
You're not wrong about any of that at all. I have my own problems with it, like those radio pop songs playing at fun fairs, and not just generic radio pop songs, but generic radio pop songs that teach the listener how to do blowjobs. And that was played at a fun fair, with CHILDREN!!
I wanted to tell myself that I was making this up, but I'm sadly not. I heard it with my own eyes. I haven't even touched upon the laziness of lyrics yet, however, since most of those cases are just ''song name song name song name song name'' over and over again, I just can't find a way to talk about this without repeating what others said about such songs. Still, I hate this kind of music, especially when my family and other people I go to have that kind of awful garbage spoon-fed to them via the radio. If I listen to it, it's because I can't turn the radio off, or I'm somewhere in the city... which means I have to listen to more awful songs like a singer blaming everyone else for what he does or a boy taking advantage of a dramatic fight between a couple just to get a girl. I wanted to tell myself that I was making this up, but I'm sadly not. I heard it with my own eyes. I haven't even touched upon the laziness of lyrics yet, however, since most of those cases are just ''song name song name song name song name'' over and over again, I just can't find a way to talk about this without repeating what others said about such songs. Still, I hate this kind of music, especially when my family and other people I go to have that kind of awful garbage spoon-fed to them via the radio. If I listen to it, it's because I can't turn the radio off, or I'm somewhere in the city... which means I have to listen to more awful songs like a singer blaming everyone else for what he does or a boy taking advantage of a dramatic fight between a couple just to get a girl. |
01-01-20 09:11 PM
pennylessz is Offline
| ID: 1376221 | 74 Words

| ID: 1376221 | 74 Words
pennylessz
Level: 100





POSTS: 2011/2632
POST EXP: 134054
LVL EXP: 10081656
CP: 5629.8
VIZ: 320760





POSTS: 2011/2632
POST EXP: 134054
LVL EXP: 10081656
CP: 5629.8
VIZ: 320760

Likes: 0 Dislikes: 0
If you look up Thoughty2 on YouTube, he has a great video on why modern music is absolute garbage. I already knew this before I watched it, but it's fun annoying people with facts about it, since they get really defensive. I listen to indie stuff like Darwin Deez and Steam Powered Giraffe. They're modern, yet still really creative and fun. I doubt you'd hear either on the radio, and that's a good thing. |
Vizzed Elite
Affected by 'Laziness Syndrome'
Registered: 02-10-10
Location: Within the wires.
Last Post: 179 days
Last Active: 105 days
Affected by 'Laziness Syndrome'
Registered: 02-10-10
Location: Within the wires.
Last Post: 179 days
Last Active: 105 days
01-01-20 10:55 PM
Furret is Offline
| ID: 1376228 | 128 Words

| ID: 1376228 | 128 Words
Furret
Davideo69
Davideo69
Level: 154





POSTS: 6337/7717
POST EXP: 486870
LVL EXP: 45757583
CP: 49894.3
VIZ: 3662594





POSTS: 6337/7717
POST EXP: 486870
LVL EXP: 45757583
CP: 49894.3
VIZ: 3662594

Likes: 0 Dislikes: 0
I don't know man, there's a lot of songs that just sound the same and have super bland lyrics, aka most mumble rappers and a bunch of autotune tracks (though there are some good ones too of course).
But ever once in a while I'll hear a new song, generally a popular one, and actually enjoy it. Can't think of any at this moment but there are a few top artists that I actually think are quite good. I still prefer songs from the 2000s over the recent ones in general as some of my favorite artists were most active then. It's mostly their songs I'll actively go back to, whereas the modern ones are mostly a case of "oh if its playing now I'll listen I guess". But ever once in a while I'll hear a new song, generally a popular one, and actually enjoy it. Can't think of any at this moment but there are a few top artists that I actually think are quite good. I still prefer songs from the 2000s over the recent ones in general as some of my favorite artists were most active then. It's mostly their songs I'll actively go back to, whereas the modern ones are mostly a case of "oh if its playing now I'll listen I guess". |
Site Staff
Former Admin
Affected by 'Laziness Syndrome'
Registered: 11-25-12
Location: Belgium
Last Post: 14 days
Last Active: 30 min.
Former Admin
![]() |
Affected by 'Laziness Syndrome'
Registered: 11-25-12
Location: Belgium
Last Post: 14 days
Last Active: 30 min.
01-02-20 01:00 AM
SonicOlmstead is Offline
| ID: 1376247 | 40 Words

| ID: 1376247 | 40 Words
SonicOlmstead
Sonicolmstead
claytune
Sonicolmstead
claytune
Level: 119





POSTS: 538/4353
POST EXP: 384197
LVL EXP: 18425682
CP: 29513.0
VIZ: 2706933





POSTS: 538/4353
POST EXP: 384197
LVL EXP: 18425682
CP: 29513.0
VIZ: 2706933

Likes: 0 Dislikes: 0
I can agree most songs now a days aren't that great or sound really similar to other songs but it's never really affected me much cause I spend most of my time listening to either game osts or anime openings. |
Local Moderator
Head MC Admin, Former Administrator
Affected by 'Laziness Syndrome'
Registered: 02-08-14
Location: Ohio
Last Post: 1 day
Last Active: 2 hours
Head MC Admin, Former Administrator
Ore wa Tokoton Tomaranai!! |
Affected by 'Laziness Syndrome'
Registered: 02-08-14
Location: Ohio
Last Post: 1 day
Last Active: 2 hours
01-03-20 11:29 PM
Blacksmith84 is Offline
| ID: 1376443 | 38 Words
| ID: 1376443 | 38 Words
Blacksmith84
Level: 33




POSTS: 123/285
POST EXP: 18270
LVL EXP: 216947
CP: 378.6
VIZ: 373901




POSTS: 123/285
POST EXP: 18270
LVL EXP: 216947
CP: 378.6
VIZ: 373901

Likes: 0 Dislikes: 0
I detest all new music except Lizzo. I saw her rise up from obscurity here in Minneapolis as a back up singer to Har Mar Superstar and a rapper with Doomtree. She deserves all the credit she gets. |
Trusted Member
Affected by 'Laziness Syndrome'
Registered: 10-23-19
Last Post: 1659 days
Last Active: 1565 days
Affected by 'Laziness Syndrome'
Registered: 10-23-19
Last Post: 1659 days
Last Active: 1565 days
Links
Page Comments
This page has no comments