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05-24-17 04:40 AM
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What do you think about ps2 games to vizzed.com besides x-box emu more games but ps2 platform ?? Just a general idea since we have ps1 on vizzed. Example: Final Fantasy 10 or Final Fantasy x2 on vizzed.com
What do you think about ps2 games to vizzed.com besides x-box emu more games but ps2 platform ?? Just a general idea since we have ps1 on vizzed. Example: Final Fantasy 10 or Final Fantasy x2 on vizzed.com
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I agree with you, despite thinking it won't happen for at least a year. Plus, only a few computers can run such games, and there may also be sound synching issues. Let's just wait and see how long it takes for it to be added. After all, it IS very likely that PS2 games will be added to the RGR, it just takes a bit of time. For now, let's just enjoy what we have until the newer consoles get added.
I agree with you, despite thinking it won't happen for at least a year. Plus, only a few computers can run such games, and there may also be sound synching issues. Let's just wait and see how long it takes for it to be added. After all, it IS very likely that PS2 games will be added to the RGR, it just takes a bit of time. For now, let's just enjoy what we have until the newer consoles get added.
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There's absolutely no way for this to be possible, PS2 games are known for being several gigabytes of space, need a high-end PC to run correctly, and has legal issues no doubt.

Looking at it like that, it probably can't and won't happen.
There's absolutely no way for this to be possible, PS2 games are known for being several gigabytes of space, need a high-end PC to run correctly, and has legal issues no doubt.

Looking at it like that, it probably can't and won't happen.
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TouchMaster97 : yeah i have to agree with yoshirulez there is no way this can be possible since running ps2 games mean big megabytes
and all that jazz. 

TouchMaster97 : yeah i have to agree with yoshirulez there is no way this can be possible since running ps2 games mean big megabytes
and all that jazz. 

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Don't get your hopes up too much. A lot of the users that frequent the RGR have a hard enough time running the games available, let alone something that needs a fairly decent computer to run properly like PS2 emulation not to mention that PS2 emulation still isn't really that great overall.

Then there comes in the cost to develop it into the Plugin and the crazy amount of Storage/Bandwith that it would take to host these massive files.

Not to mention the legal issues that would most likely come up if Vizzed were going to host these games.

I really don't think the site has the traffic to be able to support such an undertaking.
Don't get your hopes up too much. A lot of the users that frequent the RGR have a hard enough time running the games available, let alone something that needs a fairly decent computer to run properly like PS2 emulation not to mention that PS2 emulation still isn't really that great overall.

Then there comes in the cost to develop it into the Plugin and the crazy amount of Storage/Bandwith that it would take to host these massive files.

Not to mention the legal issues that would most likely come up if Vizzed were going to host these games.

I really don't think the site has the traffic to be able to support such an undertaking.
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I know there are other sites or emu's out there I don't have issues with space mega/gig/Tb I can run any game anything with lots of space and then some I can see it if you own a lower grade laptop or pc/desktops space may be an issue or video card I can see maybe the legal issues with some games I'm just thinking ps2 is becoming Retro! Or ps2? whats ps2? You know.... haha. Now a days. Just an idea or thought since vizzed has every other system im not saying right away but maybe one day who knows tech in short is growing fast.
I know there are other sites or emu's out there I don't have issues with space mega/gig/Tb I can run any game anything with lots of space and then some I can see it if you own a lower grade laptop or pc/desktops space may be an issue or video card I can see maybe the legal issues with some games I'm just thinking ps2 is becoming Retro! Or ps2? whats ps2? You know.... haha. Now a days. Just an idea or thought since vizzed has every other system im not saying right away but maybe one day who knows tech in short is growing fast.
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The problem's not so much the user-end storage space or download speeds as much as legality and bandwidth costs. Legality because I don't believe PS2 is ready to be considered abandonware. Vizzed already takes in excess of $1,500 a MONTH to keep running because of everything that's being hosted. When you have games that are as big as 2+ GB, and hundreds, if not thousands, of them at that being hosted on a server or multiple servers, that's going to cost possibly thousands of dollars a month for the person running the site and providing the downloads. In other words, while it may technically be possible, it's risky, probably not a good idea and financially impossible at this point because there's no way that it would be popular enough to pay for itself, let alone make a profit, because I get the feeling that most of the site's userbase have very poor hardware and certainly not powerful enough to emulate PS2 with it's own program, let alone using a browser plugin.
The problem's not so much the user-end storage space or download speeds as much as legality and bandwidth costs. Legality because I don't believe PS2 is ready to be considered abandonware. Vizzed already takes in excess of $1,500 a MONTH to keep running because of everything that's being hosted. When you have games that are as big as 2+ GB, and hundreds, if not thousands, of them at that being hosted on a server or multiple servers, that's going to cost possibly thousands of dollars a month for the person running the site and providing the downloads. In other words, while it may technically be possible, it's risky, probably not a good idea and financially impossible at this point because there's no way that it would be popular enough to pay for itself, let alone make a profit, because I get the feeling that most of the site's userbase have very poor hardware and certainly not powerful enough to emulate PS2 with it's own program, let alone using a browser plugin.
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Just download pcsx2 and the iso's. Even mid to higher end rigs have trouble with ps2 emulation. It wouldn't be worth adding.
Just download pcsx2 and the iso's. Even mid to higher end rigs have trouble with ps2 emulation. It wouldn't be worth adding.
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I know sites and server's cost money and bandwidth (I don't think its a major issue) and for sites to make money to run it doing ad's etc to make extra money pay staff etc I know theres ton's of emu iso's out there to play I'm thinking one day vizzed will maybe host it as something new not saying now but maybe next 5-10 years lol who knows everyone says no but theres always a way vizzed has a lot of games its one the best sites out there but I know what it takes to run them & the cost of it.
I know sites and server's cost money and bandwidth (I don't think its a major issue) and for sites to make money to run it doing ad's etc to make extra money pay staff etc I know theres ton's of emu iso's out there to play I'm thinking one day vizzed will maybe host it as something new not saying now but maybe next 5-10 years lol who knows everyone says no but theres always a way vizzed has a lot of games its one the best sites out there but I know what it takes to run them & the cost of it.
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Okay PlayStation 1? Fine. DreamCast? Alright, I see where your're going with "retro", but PlayStation 2? I understand what you think about newer console emulation, but give it about another 2-3 years. The PlayStation 2 is nearly going on 18 years old, give it some time before the plugins develop to the point where you can emulate it on the website. Heck, there may even be a new plugin altogether. 

It will probably happen soon, but the DreamCast emulator has problems and it is considered to be in the same era as the PlayStation 2.
Okay PlayStation 1? Fine. DreamCast? Alright, I see where your're going with "retro", but PlayStation 2? I understand what you think about newer console emulation, but give it about another 2-3 years. The PlayStation 2 is nearly going on 18 years old, give it some time before the plugins develop to the point where you can emulate it on the website. Heck, there may even be a new plugin altogether. 

It will probably happen soon, but the DreamCast emulator has problems and it is considered to be in the same era as the PlayStation 2.
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Yeah I totally agree it will take some time and plugin's are not ready yet and ps2 is old like dream cast I'm in no rush as stuff takes time to make develop. Only time will tell.
Yeah I totally agree it will take some time and plugin's are not ready yet and ps2 is old like dream cast I'm in no rush as stuff takes time to make develop. Only time will tell.
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I'll just go on the record as saying there's about as much chance of PS2 games coming to Vizzed as there is of you becoming president of the United States.

In theory, it could happen. And if enough people work hard for it, sure, it might even one day be plausible. But it's not realistic for all the reasons outlined above.

David struggles to make ends meet as it is. The cost of adding a single PS2 game to the site, before getting into the technical, legal, and ethical aspects of adding said game, would be the proverbial straw that broke the camels back. Given David has a family, and the site is such a financial drain as is, there's not a chance he's going to invest in that direction, when his best bet is to take what already exists and make it more profitable.

As it stands, it's amazing that David is able to get away with the PSX ISOs on site, because Sony could very easily claim they are still making money off of those properties (they are, thanks to the playstation store), and get David into a similar level of trouble that Nintendo got us in.

It's not even a "only time will tell" deal. It's very flat, and to the point. The only way it is going to happen is if bandwidth space gets way cheaper, Sony stops selling PS2 games in the PSN store, and David can get a reliable emulator programmed into the RGR Plugin (he basically has to hire someone else to do that, which is more money) that works for the vast majority of people. You need only look as far as Dreamcast emulation to understand the hurdles and technical limitations that come with the Plugin. As it is, too many people complain about a lack of quality, or of framerate issues if they can even get the games to work in the first place.

TLDR - It doesn't make sense for David to take the legal risks, based on the interests of a few people. At all. So, even if it were practical to implement, there probably will never be a PS2 emulator involved with the RGR Plugin. If there ever is, it's because either the stance of the world on emulation has changed, or David became a Nigerian Prince over night.
I'll just go on the record as saying there's about as much chance of PS2 games coming to Vizzed as there is of you becoming president of the United States.

In theory, it could happen. And if enough people work hard for it, sure, it might even one day be plausible. But it's not realistic for all the reasons outlined above.

David struggles to make ends meet as it is. The cost of adding a single PS2 game to the site, before getting into the technical, legal, and ethical aspects of adding said game, would be the proverbial straw that broke the camels back. Given David has a family, and the site is such a financial drain as is, there's not a chance he's going to invest in that direction, when his best bet is to take what already exists and make it more profitable.

As it stands, it's amazing that David is able to get away with the PSX ISOs on site, because Sony could very easily claim they are still making money off of those properties (they are, thanks to the playstation store), and get David into a similar level of trouble that Nintendo got us in.

It's not even a "only time will tell" deal. It's very flat, and to the point. The only way it is going to happen is if bandwidth space gets way cheaper, Sony stops selling PS2 games in the PSN store, and David can get a reliable emulator programmed into the RGR Plugin (he basically has to hire someone else to do that, which is more money) that works for the vast majority of people. You need only look as far as Dreamcast emulation to understand the hurdles and technical limitations that come with the Plugin. As it is, too many people complain about a lack of quality, or of framerate issues if they can even get the games to work in the first place.

TLDR - It doesn't make sense for David to take the legal risks, based on the interests of a few people. At all. So, even if it were practical to implement, there probably will never be a PS2 emulator involved with the RGR Plugin. If there ever is, it's because either the stance of the world on emulation has changed, or David became a Nigerian Prince over night.
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Ill take the last sentence.... I'm all for vizzed making profits for sure I would to ps2 will be non-exist in a few years time but like all online gaming you have to make the site fresh and new to keep your player base on site as I said tech is growing things are becoming cheaper as older things are dieing out (whats popular) ps2 is not really my opinion I understand the work time it takes and money theres a lot of variables that play here will see.
Ill take the last sentence.... I'm all for vizzed making profits for sure I would to ps2 will be non-exist in a few years time but like all online gaming you have to make the site fresh and new to keep your player base on site as I said tech is growing things are becoming cheaper as older things are dieing out (whats popular) ps2 is not really my opinion I understand the work time it takes and money theres a lot of variables that play here will see.
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