I was intrigued about a recent report that I was reading earlier in the week about the Jaguars, and specifically Allen Robinson.

Seems he doesn't care much for the home fans in Jacksonville. Article below -

http://www.bigcatcountry.com/2016/10/25/13400832/allen-robinson-its-funny-that-we-get-our-best-home-field-advantage-when-we-go-to-wembley-stadium

To summarize, he's basically saying that it's sad that they get more support from fans when they are playing games in London at Wembly then they do in Jacksonville. Seems he doesn't appreciate the booing.

Although I do understand to a certain extent that he's upset he doesn't get the support he sees other teams get in their home stadiums...but really how can he expect it?

First, let's just get it out of the way; this franchise was set up to fail to begin with. Crammed into a location and area of the country that 1. Is more of a fan of the college game, and 2. Were fans that had already built DEEP SEEDED allegiances for other teams in the surrounding area. Falcons, Dolphins...etc.. Fans that probably would never convert...unless given a reason to...you know by WINNING. A fairly bad stadium that has had issues for years...although I know they did some updates in 2014 the issue here is that the Stadium is not a draw for the average fan.

With the cost to attend NFL games being OUTRAGEOUS, there is really nothing to draw you to the stadium itself, when you can watch the game in the comfort of YOUR OWN HOUSE. It's bland and stale. NO history, fans that could be viewed as more casual that don't really live and die by the Jaguars....and a bad products on the field. Not to mention that their Uniforms have always been kinda ugly as well.

Then if you look at the product on the field...well they haven't won much. Since they became a franchise in 1995, they have made the playoffs a grand total of 6 times. Making matters worse, they haven't even had a WINNING SEASON since 2007, when "Blackjack" DelRio was at the helm with a team of Jones Drew Fred Taylor, with Garrad at QB. Leading up to this season, the Jags are currently on a 5 year streak of double-digit losses and this season slipping away quickly.

Fast forwarding to now, this season has been a HUGE disappointment so far for them. Some around the league thought the the Jags might be building towards something with a decent defense and a young squad with Bortles and Robinson leading the way after the seasons they had statistically this year. The addition of Julius Thomas last season and Chris Ivory this year were supposed to add some weapons to go alongside Lee Allen and Bortles. This year has seen all regress. Any people that thought Bortles might be the QB of the future have found that the koolaid has worn off. Although Robinson has had an issue with drops over his young career, Bortles has had issues throwing anything down field. His mechanics are terrible and his offensive coordinator doesn't seem willing or able to create any mismatches downfield to put his large athletic players like Robinson, Lee, and Thomas in position to succeed. Not only that, their defense has seemed to regress some as well. Decent, but certainly not GREAT. Looks like more rebuilding is needed in Jacksonville and you have to figure Gus Bradley's seat is getting pretty hot. The only thing that could save their season is the weak AFC overall and the SUPER BAD AFC South. I mean, it's really a joke.

Wow, that's 2 weeks in a row that an NFL game has ended in a tie. Both the Bengals and Redskins had opportunities throughout the game to win the game, not just in OT.

For the Redskins, Jay Gruden could've settled for the field goal early in the game instead of going for it on 4th down. Dustin Hopkins could've won the game with a 40 yard field goal in OT. Finally, the Redskins could've given Dustin Hopkins a chance for redemption if it wouldn't have been for a offensive pass interference penalty on the final drive.

For the Bengals, Mike Nugent could've helped his team avoid OT all together if he hadn't missed an extra point. Nugent could've attempted a field goal to put them up by 10 if Andy Dalton wouldn't have thrown an interception. Finally, what if Andy hadn't fumbled the football in OT? Would they have been able to get into field goal range, and lastly would Nugent have even been able to make a game winning field goal in OT? We'll never know for sure, but like I said last week, if you can't make short field goals, you don't deserve to win games.

The only winner in that game was London, because they finally got to see an exciting game that went to OT. Most of the 17 games played in London have been crappy.

gamerforlifeforever : A.J. Green is a beast, that's for sure. Brownies are my 2nd team, but I think that they're going to actually pull off 0-16 this season. I mean, maybe if the Bears, or Forty-Niners, or even the Dolphins...Oh wait, they lost to them. Gah.

Anyways, the team that I actually care about, the Titans, seems to be getting its crap together. Despite the defense not playing the shut down football it was early in the season, it's still playing well, and Marcus Mariota has thrown for ten touchdowns and ran for one against one interception in the last four games, with the Titans being 3-1 in those games. That L was all Andrew Luck though, that man's a great quarterback. I think they could manage to win the division, since, without the best defensive player in the NFL, and possibly overall, in their lineup, their 5-3 record is a hoax, at best. This week, I don't know how they managed to win. The Lions outperformed them everywhere, at every position, but couldn't win it, the Colts are totally reliant on Andrew Luck to win them every game on the schedule, and he's no Peyton Manning, while the Jaguars are just awful.

Well, as a Bengals fan, I was rooting for the Ravens yesterday to beat the Steelers, and thankfully they were able to do so. The AFC North is now wide open with the Ravens and Steelers at 4-4, and the Bengals right behind at 3-4-1. At this point, I only see one of these teams making the playoffs, so it'll be interesting to see how it'll all play out.

The game I was most surprised about was the Colts Packers game. The fact that Green Bay was unable to beat a team that always has to rely solely on Andrew Luck shows that even with Aaron Rodgers at QB, the Packers could easily end up not even making the playoffs this year. At this point, I expect the Lions to win the NFC North division.

As for Sunday night, I'm not surprised that the Raiders won that game. Some people would say that they're one of this year's biggest surprises, but honestly I'm not surprised that they're doing really well this season. I certainly didn't expect them to have a 7-2 start, but I did predict that they'd be in the playoffs this year before the season began. At this point, that prediction is likely to be correct.

As for Monday Night, I would've never guessed that the Bills and Seahawks would score as much as they did. I was expecting it to be a low scoring defensive game, but it turned out to be a pretty high scoring one instead.

Over the course of the past 5 days I quickly converted to being a Cowboys fan thanks to what I saw on a show I went to on Friday. Huge fan of Dak so far and I hope that he keeps his job.

You know, I think the Titans might make (and lose in the first round of) the playoffs this season!

Now here me out. The Colts are struggling, the Jags, who were great on paper, are out, and Houston is bound to fall off with Brock at the helm. I think that if we can beat the Colts in Indy this week, that will effectively take them out, and Houston should lose to the Raiders, getting us to 6-5 and them at 6-4. After that, besides Jacksonville, they'll face opponents who are tough to beat without a good QB, with the Packs number one rushing defence probably shutting them down. It should come down to that final game of Tennessee vs Houston though, to decide the AFC South.

Jordanv78 : I think the bears are close to being a good team, despite their...issues. Cutler is bad, he needs to leave, because when you get replaced and outperformed by Brian Hoyer, you know there's an issue. Unfortunately though, I don't think there are a lot of good QB draft prospects. Deshone Kizer, of Notre Dame, maybe? But he's just not an elite quarterback, really, otherwise Notre Dame would be doing better than it is now. Deshaun Watson's a very good running quarterback, but it seems like every game I see his stats and there are four interceptions. You aren't going to find a Mariota, Prescott, or a Winston in this draft. I"d say you trade the #5 pick to the Browns for a 2nd round pick this year and a 4-5 next year or something. Or you could draft someone who looks to be dominant on defense.

gamerforlifeforever : I predicted that the Ravens would win the division 10-6 before the preseason, and I stand by that. The Bengals and Steelers are having down years, the Browns are too, but this year at least we'll get a parade in Cleveland. D: Now, the Bengals are behind a couple games against the Ravens, but I don't think Baltimore can go without losing one more, and we saw how long Cinci can keep winning last year. I don't think they'll make playoffs, but when you have Burfict, Green, Adam Jones, etc, on your team, you never know. Oh, and Andy Frikkin' Dalton.

You're chance is this week though. The Ravens will likely fall to Dak and Zeke, and the Bills are on or off. So we could see a 5-5, 4-5 divisional race before they play each other week 12, and if you can take a win in Baltimore, then it's 5-5, 5-6, with your guys at the top. I'm confident that you'll beat the Eagles, my Brownies are a free win, so that's 7-5 right there. The Ravens should beat the 'Fins, but they'll lose to the Patriots, so 7-5, 6-7. After that, it's basically clinched. But it'll be tough, and I still think the Ravens will go 6-0 in the AFC North. We'll see.

Cutler hasn't been great really, but who's going to be better to replace him with? Hoyer despite putting up what looked like decent numbers, sure didn't win the Bears any games. That's not debatable. So really, he wasn't good. Sure he would be a decent bridge to whatever QB of the future there is, but he's not going to win you too many games. There's a reason why he's 30 and is a backup in the NFL.

Sure Romo might be available via trade, but I really wouldn't want the Bears to give up picks to get him for what. 2 Years? Are we even sure he can stay healthy that long?

With regards to draft prospects, it's really hard to say. Who knows. Sometimes you can find gems like Prescott whom comes out of nowhere to be decent. A little early to call that.

With regards to the Bears, they have a lot of work to do on the offensive side of the ball. Alshon isn't going to be back next year most likely and honestly it's another dude that can't stay healthy. I was hoping the Bears could have traded him LAST year at the deadline when he was having a good season, but he got injured right before and tied the Bears hands. After this suspension I really don't see the Bears offering him much to stay. Especially with the disappointing season he's had. White hasn't shown he can stay healthy either. Only real possible bring spots are Howard and Meredith on the offensive side of the Ball. The defense has started to show signs of improvement as the season goes on, so that's good. Still have some work to do in the secondary though.

With how bad the NFC north has been this year, who knows it might not take much to win the division next year either since Rodgers and the Packers seem to be on the decline and the Lions and Vikings really aren't that good either.

The Chicago bears aren't doing good at all. Their only wins are to Detroit and the Vikings which is very sad.

These darn zebras and their horrible calls. 
legacyme3 : Get your brethren in check, man. 

thing1 :

Nah, f*** the Ravens, Cowboys playing legit today.

Go zebras.

I'm sick of Mike Nugent. He's been terrible in 3 of the Bengals last 4 games.


Week 7: He missed a couple of field goals against the Browns. Didn't effect the outcome of the game though since the offense had over 500 yards of total offense that game.

Week 8: Mike Nugent misses a Extra Point and field goal. If he would've made either one of those, there wouldn't have been OT because they would've won.

Week 10: Nugent actually had a decent game against the Giants. He made both his field goals and extra points.

Week 11: After an A.J. Green-less Bengals offense gets 2 TD's in the first half, Nugent misses BOTH EXTRA POINTS! Had he made those, they would've been able to go for a game winning field goal at the end of the game instead of having to throw a deep pass to the end zone.

While there are other factors that have led to the Bengals being 3-6-1, but Nugent has played a huge role in their current record. They could've been 5-6 had it not been for Nugents missed Extra Points against the Bills and Redskins. Now they pretty much have no chance of making the playoffs for a 6th straight year since A.J's probably going to be out for awhile with a hamstring injury.

3 more touchdowns for Dak today and the Cowboys win their 9th straight game, which is insane.


Giving Romo a shot from now on will only start a series of events that will doom them, doing whatever they are doing now is working perfectly.

zanderlex :
thing1 :

How's that Dak taste? Mmmm...

Romo is done as Cowboys QB unless Dak gets run over by a truck. The transition is over, and done with, and Romo already has his mind elsewhere (he wants to be the next Broncos QB)

legacyme3 : I remember less than 2 weeks ago, when I was in the audience for a talk show, the discussion was that the Cowboys WANTED romo back in and we're planning on benching Dak. Even letting romo practice with Dak which apparently many people didn't like. Just two games since then and the table turned 180 degrees.

legacyme3 : I honestly didn't expect the Ravens to win, but I did expect the game to be a one score game, coming down to the last drive. If you look at the replay, there were multiple instances where the commentators were saying there were some bad calls and some horrible no calls.  
But, Ravens control their own destiny. They are in the lead for the AFC North.
But, they won't do anything for the next few years if something isn't done about that secondary and that receiving corp, the Ravens are screwed. They keep signing these old veterans than can only attribute for a few seasons, and then they retire. They need to do what the Patriots do, and get a bunch of young guys, and build from the ground up.
Also, Flacco needs to restructure his contract and take a pay-cut. (I can't remember if he has already or not.) He's not worth what he's being paid, and I've said that from the moment he got that contract. He needs to be paid what he's worth, (Maybe 13-15 a year) and not this crazy money. Most starting QB's are overpaid, as a matter of fact. 

TL;DR: Flacco is overpaid, needs to take a pay-cut, and the Ravens needs to build young, not sign old veterans, or the Ravens won't do anything for years. 

thing1 :

"TL;DR: Flacco is overpaid, needs to take a pay-cut, and the Ravens needs to build young, not sign old veterans, or the Ravens won't do anything for years."

Glad you can finally admit that, because a year or two ago, you were fighting me over Flacco being elite, which was total garbage.

There were a couple odd no-calls, but nothing out of place, calls were wrong on both ends, and in the end, it ended up being a perfectly normal game call-wise.

I could pretty easily argue the only reason it was so close was because of no calls in the Ravens favor, but it is what it is. In the end, we're one point shy of enjoying an undefeated season (f***ing Giants, in Week 1).

legacyme3 : I do remember that. And as of now, I agree with you that he is NOT ELITE. However, if he can get some decent WRs and a healthy team around him, go to the playoffs 80% of the time for the rest of his career, and add another ring, I think he can be called Elite, MAYBE. 

For the record, you are correct about the argument, and I concede... however, I always said that he was overpaid, and not worth that much. I think I had said 80 over 5 or 6 years? I can't remember exactly.

thing1 :

QBs can only be called elite if they can make the best of a bad team.

For example, I hate Tom Brady, but there's no denying he's elite. I also cannot deny that Peyton Manning was elite. Et al.

But Flacco has proven he cannot do that, especially now.

A guy is either elite or not elite, I don't think there's any maybe area. An elite QB can struggle, but an elite QB stays elite, generally. I don't think you can argue Flacco is elite, ergo, he's not elite.

I can confirm you have always said he was overpaid. I did check into that, and I quote you as saying, "you have got to be kidding me! I mean, I could see $80.5 Million for 5 years, but $120.6 for 6 years... that is just ridiculous".

legacyme3 : Where did you find that? 

I will say this about the rookies for the Cowboys... they might have one of the best rookie QBs since Big Ben and the best rookie RB since... well, I don't know. 

JordanV8: You aren't wrong, unfortunately. Like I said, there aren't going to be any franchise quarterbacks in this years draft, but I would start Hoyer. He sucks, and miserably, but he can allow a good team to make the playoffs. Not win (R.I.P. Texans), at least if the best player in the game has major injuries before the game, and then gets carted off with the muscles on his leg torn from the bone, but he can help them get there, and I'm convinced that your defense is a good lineman and a couple DBs away from being top-notch. Danny Trevathan, Jerell Freeman, Pernell McPhee, and Willie Young are a solid LB core. No Urlacher, but solid enough to win games, and that's the core of a defense right there.

On the other hand, if Ryan Fitzpatrick goes into the free agency, which he very well may after his abysmal start to the season (watch his picks vs the Chiefs. Those were, for the most part, not on him.

1-A curl route to a reciever. Excellent coverage by Peters, but the reciever put no effort into catching the ball. On a curl route, one's job is to step into the pass to make it harder to defend. He didn't do that, he turned late, and it got picked.

2-What would've been a tight throw to the end zone turned bad when an LB deflected the ball. Just a great play by the defense, nothing he could've done, really.

3-Reciever literally dropped the ball. It was an incredible play by Fitzpatrick, avoiding a sack when his horrible o line collapsed.

4-again, his reciever. Literally stopped running, otherwise it would have been a dime for big yardage.

5-Okay, this one was a bad pass by Fitz. He didn't see Derrick Johnson.

6-Excellent play by the defense. Reciever has to come up with contested catches though, and he let the DB get in front of him.

But honestly, despite the horrible season he's having, he's on the New York Jets. Matt Forte has been horribly ineffective, the offensive line looks like an outclassed college O Line against a playoff team defense, and Fitz has to make every single play to win them games. He's a very good quarterback when given a decent line and any chance to make things happen, honestly. His accuracy is indisputably an underrated QB and ages ahead of Jay Cutler. Just look at last year. He led the Jets to a 10-6 record, and would have been 11-5 if Brandon Marshall hadn't dropped three touchdown passes at the end of the game.

Moving on, without Luck, the Colts are out. It's the Titans and Texans now.

Houston will more than likely lose to a desperate Packers team. Their defense is strong, but without Watt they have no way to really put any pressure on Aaron Rodgers. Jadaveon Clowney is doing well, but without 99 problems, they aren't a dominant defense, and they will get torn apart while Brock Osweiler can't deal with the horrible Pack defense. The Colts will probably lose to them, as will the Jags, which gets them to 8-6, but the Bengals will wipe them out, and then they play Tennessee.

As for my Titans, they have to top either the Chiefs or the Broncos to have a chance, because if both teams have the same record, then the Titans will lose out because of their division record. They should be able to beat out those teams though, as Marcus Mariota is on fire, and at least Delanie Walker creates massive matchup issues, while Murray,(and if not him, Henry) should be able to do the rest. Our DBs are horrible, but Trevor Siemien is no Manning, and if our pass rush can get going, we'll have that game in the bag. As for the Chiefs, it will be one hell of a game, but Alex Smith disapproves of deep passing (not that he's incapable of it). That one will be tough, but they've got a chance.

The Jaguars are a gimme, so if the Titans win one of those two beforehand, then that puts them at 8-7, just like Houston. Even if they do win out though, and go 9-6, they'll need to drop Houston, otherwise the Texans get in via division record. So it WILL more than likely come down to that game, even more certainly now.