A user of this : You know there was pretty much no reason for that. It was more or less only a strategic lynch because eidetic said so and look how that turned out... I've yet to see any one actually provide anyone actually provide any reasoning for why I should be lynched besides saying "I'm acting odd"

I pretty much know someone would use "everybody voted for you before" as a reasoning I pretty much said so earlier just like I was almost expecting someone to start accusing me for taking to long to post now.

Well the way things are going I might as well vote for the moment. My prime suspect would probably be user.

Vote: A USER OF THIS

Taking the things mvhupsel said that means I'm back to square one regarding zero, but I find it ironic that you're suspicious of me if that's true when you yourself were the one who said baseless lynching is what gets us to lynch bystanders.

Not sure about deg pretty much waiting for him to make a response for now.

Zlinqx : You do know there's also no reason for yours also. >.> So, let me get this straight. You're voting me because I said something you thought I would? Well, fine then. I fell into your clever ruse. Because, you know. Mvhupsel was only silent until yesterday. Also, look at the posts. That is LITERALLY their reasoning. No reasoning. The only thing close to solid proof was when zanderlex threatened people, and then Barathemos went crazy on here. Oh, wait, I forgot. I only make empty posts.

Okay, just because I defended User doesn't mean I'm Mafia. The only evidence you have against User is that he has made "empty posts". So, I defended him because I thought a lynch on a townie (possible BYSTANDER) would happen.

I was only questioning why deg wanted to lynch me because his evidence was that I "could be Mafia". Anyone here "could" be Mafia, you know. I never thought that me and User would have a similar suspicion.

A user of this : So you don't even try invalidating my reasoning, you'll just vote for me and blatantly say this situation doesn't makes sense? Pretty desperate if you ask me and choosing to vote for me pretty much confirms what I already suspected.

By now it's pretty pointless to try and bring my character into question because I wasn't active on the thread, The reason for that is because most people already knew there was a reason I was inactive on the thread. I had PM'd everyone and asked them questions, the exceptions being thing1, yourself and deg2000. You and deg were my two prime suspects initially, but after gathering everyone's opinions, here's what I managed to confirm:

-deg's testimony as the Insomniac is legit and he suspects ZeroTails
-Zerotails defended User, said she exchanged PMs with him before. She also suspects deg and Zlinqx
-User also suspects deg and Zlinqx, however now for some reason decided I was a better vote.
-Snowdeath sought the Mafia for a possible alliance, but they didn't reveal themselves. At some point in time (Probably when she voted to lynch him), User contacted her to an alliance, claiming to be town, however she confirms that nothing special confirms that.

The 2 likely scenarios are: User is Mafia (probably the Godfather), Zero is Mafia and tried covering for him. Or User is Mafia  and Zero was deceived into believing he's town.

Top make things even better, voting for me is the stupidest thing anyone town-sided would do at this point and it's pretty obvious why. First and foremost, if I happened to be Mafia my actions up to this point would have been counter-productive. Why would I agree with EM earlier if I knew he wasn't Mafia? Why would I actively try to convince people that they should lynch Patar and pacman? Why would I ally myself with Zlinqx, even though he got the vast majority of votes at some point before? (this proved the mafia voted for him).

You could have tried to come up with a reason why you're town, you could have tried convincing us that other people are more likely to be Mafia than you... but no, you chose to vote for me and by doing so you gave us the best lead  we could have asked for.

A user of this : You gave pretty much no reason for why I'm suspicious at all except people were trying to lynch you which I already adressed. That in itself is not a reasoning. Think why was I being lynched? Not because I in particular was suspicious but because you wanted to see if em was mafia. Hence using that on it's own as a reasoning to lynch me is stupid.



I did have reasoning your postd align somewhat with how pacman and patar was acting. Not really giving much input. The difference being you posting more actively so people can't accuse you of inactivity.



Anything else would be a repeat of what mvhupsel said.



ZeroTails : I wasn't neccesairly saying you were mafia but that I find it ironic that the person who earlier preached about how we shouldn't random lynch is now accusing me in pms without giving any reason why.



All you two are doing is complaining on the validity of our reasoning when the spotlight shifts to you while not even saying why it is bad. And meanwhile you yourselves can't even justify your votes or FoSes and we're just supposed to go along with that for some reason.

Alright, fine. Yes I had no reasoning. Why? Because I don't trust people's actions purly by what's been posted. Last game I was lynched for barely posting and that made me mafia somehow. So here I made empty posts because as a Bystander, I have literally nothing to do but hope I don't die as fast.

Yes, I read your posts about how statistically there aren't any left. But, there is. I am one of them, and the only living member of my alliance is a Bystander as well. I didn't feel like repeating what everyone said, so I made stupid posts. But lynching me because of that, while understandable, will cause the town will lose.

I can't justify any FOS or Votes better than anyone else. It's all suspicion. You can believe me, or not. Either way, I stand by what I say. And I know "It was wrong because I said so all of a sudden" is suspicious. And yeah, looking back there's kind of a lot of weirdness. But I assure you, it wasn't an elaborate act of a mafia member. Just the stupidity or a simple Bystander.

Zlinqx : Um, I didn't randomly vote. I voted twice. Once for No Kill, and once for you last day round, and darthyoda. This day round, I didn't even vote at all. I didn't even FoS, either.

I'm not accusing you, I'm just a little suspicious. I haven't PMed you about Mafia at all, or go in depth with you. Basically, I'm suspicious because of lack of knowledge, and what happened last day round. That's all.

The day round ends in about 24 hours.

I think I'm missing three votes as of this minute.

New vote: deg2000

That does it for me. During all this turmoil, the only post from deg was basically a vague "ZeroTails might be Mafia". He has been active on the site and has seen the thread, however he remained silent through all this. EVERY town vote makes a big difference on a scenario like the one we are but even then he didn't vote, nor say anything... I mentioned him on both my last posts and even tried the approach of confirming his role to see if he would post. However he still didn't post, nor did he vote. The truth is, there's still no 100% fail-proof evidence that he is what he says, I simply wanted to get him to post and see what would he bring to the table since before all this happened he sent me a PM with info allegedly from his insomniac role... sadly still no reaction from his part. There's no way a townie would act like this and if that's the case, it's idiotic.

Snowdeath : Any chance that you could change your vote to deg2000? Every vote counts.
ZeroTails : If you're town, this is the time to make it count.
A user of this : If you are town and we happen to be in a scenario where There's 4 Town, 2 mafia (tree counts) and 1 Third, then all we have to do is kill the remaining Mafia member to win. Even if you get lynched, town still wins if the second kill is Mafia. There's no reason for you to oppose if what you said about both you and your ally being bystanders is true. Again, If ZeroTails is town and so are you, then all we have to do is kill deg2000 to win, it wouldn't matter if one of you died. The only scenario in which you would oppose this is if you are not a bystander.
 
I'll say it again. I do not believe deg200 is town. However If somehow deg indeed happens to be town, then I'm sorry to say but it was really moronic of him to be taking this approach at this point in the game, plain and simple. If we lose because of that I won't feel guilty about it, not one bit. I've been doing my best, but sadly I'm just 1 person and so far only Zliqnx showed any desire to actually help figure out this mess, with Snowdeath (who's not even town!) giving actual meaningful insight as well.

Mvhupsel makes some really good points there. So, I think I'll rally with him.

New vote: deg2000

mvhupsel : Sorry for being Moronic how was I supposed to know you wanted me to reply to that? That was just a misunderstanding I don't understand what exactly you want me to say anyway. And besides I'm reading through the thread and trying to figure out who the REAL mafia is. And how your just pointing everyone to me is suspicious in it's own way and kind of strange. Okay so maybe all I could say that I thought Zero was the mafia that was ALL I could get from my info I mean it's either her or Snow and User because I can't see them at night only you and Zlinqx. I can't exactly make a huge statement on who the actual mafia member is based on that crappy info.(yet you guys can) 

FoS: User, Zero, Snow 

Only reason I can't FoS Zlinqx and Mvhp i because I saw them and all they did was nothing so they are either Bystanders or boring town roles(Or I can't Hear/see you like you are an assassin or some hidden Power roles).

deg2000 : Oh, just because you haven't heard me during the night must mean me, User, and snow are Mafia. Great logic there (not). Okay, you haven't gathered that much evidence, but you could have at least taken what people have said in this thread into account. Like, combining the evidence based on behavior patterns.



mvhupsel DID make pretty good points. Sorry deg, if you're a townie, but I'm going with lynching you.



Vote: deg2000

ZeroTails : Fine lose the game : D. Actually that's a normal point of logic I'm using ._. and I have gotten a good amount of Evidence on certain people. 

So to me you just run in there agreeing with everything no reason most of the time. Then just randomly help user which is somewhat strange. and you are kind of judging our validity of everyone votes against you which is weird as well. I did take a chance but in all I gathered you seemed like the likely Mafia member our of them all.

Vote: My vote still remains NO KILL 

deg2000 : Well, you didn't really post that much useful information from my recollection. And if you DID have useful information, why didn't you PM someone you trusted? You wouldn't tell mvhupsel, who is the most likely to be town, what you found out.

Oh, and everyone questions every vote for them. I questioned your FoS for me, and you say I'm Mafia. YOU questioned mvhupsels vote for you, so by your logic you must be Mafia as well.

About me agreeing with everything... no, I don't. If I did, I would have voted for User a few times already. I haven't.

"Randomly help out User". Well, sorry to tell you that it's not random, and that we are in an alliance.

You do realize that at this point of the game, voting No Kill is not a good choice. A lynch is what determines the outcome of the game, and you voting No Kill this late makes me think that you are Mafia, and just trying to survive to the night to kill townies.

My vote for deg2000 still stands.

ZeroTails : I said you have a good chance of being the Mafia from all I could gather. And the good info I have can't be used because the people it's on are already DEAD I really thought you could have been able to read that if it's so easy to disarm everything else I have to say. I mean really are you sure I didn't tell Mvhup already cause he knows.

And you didn't have to exact your vote Leggy has it from your other post :/

Fine if you want me to be stupid and random lynch then whatever.
Vote: ZEROTAILS  judging by votes you and me both might die tonight. So the outcome might be a GAMEOVER but whatever you guys want it this badly.

(I'm pretty sure I know the outcome of this game now)

deg2000 : I was meaning about in the past. If you did have good information, why didn't you share it earlier when it was still relevant? Well, based on mvhupsels post, you didn't really have any reaction. Why would he vote for you if you really are the Insomniac, and you told him that stuff?



Well, I did. Lots of people do it.



I never told you to random lynch. I just told you that voting No Kill makes you look like Mafia.



Well, it seems like to me that you just want to get rid of me. Most of the evidence you have against me could also be used against User, and snow.



If you really want the town to stop voting for you, then stop acting suspicious and actually post more than just a "ZeroTails might be Mafia" when there's a lot of turmoil going on. You never mentioned anyone else.



If you really are town, then voting for me is a mistake.



Regardless, this is my last post responding to you. I'm sandwich posting, and I'm tired of you targeting me.

Here are the scenarios:

ZeroTails = Town
deg2000 = Mafia
A user of this = Town
thing1 = tree (Mafia)
Snowdeath = Leggyist
Zlinqx = Town
Me = Town

OR

Zerotails = Mafia
A user of this = Mafia
thing1 = tree (Mafia)
Snowdeath = Leggyist
Zlinqx = Town
deg2000 = Town
Me = Town

I believe our scenario is the latter.

Anyways, I give up on trying to figure out a fail-proof way of town winning. I tried getting people to mess up somehow by attempting a variety of different scenarios, but I don't really think I'll be ale to accomplish anything.

Snowdeath : I strongly believe ZeroTails and A user of this are both Mafia and that the only chance Town has of winning this now is with a coin toss. If we can get 2 votes for A user of this and 2 votes for ZeroTails, they'll be forced to vote together for either me, Zlinqx or deg2000, otherwise they lose. Your vote will decide this, you can either not give a damn about Town and side with them, or give Town a chance at winning by turning it into a three-way tie and letting it into the hands of Leggy himself.

Zlinqx :
deg2000 : This is my final post and is honestly what I believe, you guys can side with me or do whatever you want, but if my theory happens to be correct any other scenario will result in a Town loss.

Just remember, it has to be 2 votes for User and 1 for ZeroTails. The last one is for Snowdeath to decide.

VOTE: A user of this

mvhupsel : Well I didn't really have more to add that haven't more or less already been said by you or me but since you summoned me...





My vote remains user. Yeah there is no failproof way to win this but that latter scenario you gave really do seem like the more likely one either way user remains my prime suspect as such I have no intention of changing that vote for now unless some very strong reasoning is presented.

mvhupsel :
Zlinqx :  
Snowdeath :
ZeroTails :
A user of this : Okay well guys the game is most likely going to end today as the votes stand
User- 2
Zero- 2
Deg- 2 
So now we let the win fall into place and see which side overcomes and rules. Good luck to all.

Well, it's all in a dead tie... ^.^'

I've already made enough case for myself, which I know nobody believed. I'm not entirely sure if the mafia is even more than one person at this point, or we're being deceived. But in any way, good luck, Town.