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If god came, and you were to stay, will you take the mark of the beast?

 

03-27-13 06:48 PM
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It depends how cool it is.. I mean the mark's design...

As for being tortured... well you never know i might like it.... 

As for heaven... it'd be boring having everything you wanted in life...
It depends how cool it is.. I mean the mark's design...

As for being tortured... well you never know i might like it.... 

As for heaven... it'd be boring having everything you wanted in life...
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03-27-13 06:51 PM
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Sword legion :
I just told you. I disagree with large tracts of what is required to be christian. I dont believe in god but if i did i wouldnt convert for the same reason that religious people dont convert to other faiths, or abandon faith altogether. Because it would be throwing away what you think is right.
I dont believe any being, man or god, has the right to control others, even if said being created them. Nor do i believe that you should allow those you are responsible for to undualy suffer.
Those are principles I would never surrender, so in this scenario id be going to hell even if i didnt take the mark. Unless theres some consequence im unaware of there is no solid reason for a non christian not to take the mark.
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As above.
Sword legion :
I just told you. I disagree with large tracts of what is required to be christian. I dont believe in god but if i did i wouldnt convert for the same reason that religious people dont convert to other faiths, or abandon faith altogether. Because it would be throwing away what you think is right.
I dont believe any being, man or god, has the right to control others, even if said being created them. Nor do i believe that you should allow those you are responsible for to undualy suffer.
Those are principles I would never surrender, so in this scenario id be going to hell even if i didnt take the mark. Unless theres some consequence im unaware of there is no solid reason for a non christian not to take the mark.
Txgangsta :
As above.
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03-27-13 07:25 PM
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"...it would be throwing away what you think is right."

You haven't said what you think is right yet. What does our God do that you believe is evil?

"I dont believe any being, man or god, has the right to control others, even if said being created them."

Funny thing, my God agrees with you. Some times I actually wish he did take away freewill on occasion, but he doesn't.
"...it would be throwing away what you think is right."

You haven't said what you think is right yet. What does our God do that you believe is evil?

"I dont believe any being, man or god, has the right to control others, even if said being created them."

Funny thing, my God agrees with you. Some times I actually wish he did take away freewill on occasion, but he doesn't.
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Ok,back to the original topic. It says it will be forced upon you. You dont get to decide.


I would prefer it on the hand instead of the forehead though.
Ok,back to the original topic. It says it will be forced upon you. You dont get to decide.


I would prefer it on the hand instead of the forehead though.
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04-03-13 10:13 AM
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Brigand: If you take the mark then your name is not written on
the Lambs book of life. Taking the mark would result in going to hell, did 
you know that?





thenumberone :

I'm going to focus in on just a few things at a time.
If you build a house and rent it out to someone, do you give
them sets of rules to follow?

"Don't damage my house, treat it with respect,
don't smoke in it, don't slam the doors, or abuse anything."

Aren't those fair rules?

The Bible tells us God is renting us the universe, and we are
to treat it with respect. Even our bodies are rented, we must only do
as we are allowed. God is not cruel though, he has rules much like those
that we would impose on somone renting our house.
We do what God says because he owns everything, To use it
in a way that he does not allow would be stealing his property.
Even so God allows us to sell various products in this world
as If we owned them- to a certain degree.
Rules do not enslave us, they protect us from the consequences
of doing what's wrong.

Since you're not the one renting out the universe,
you don't decide on the rules of renting it out.

As God owns even our very bodies he can do whatever he wants to 
them. But he doesn't, he is very kind instead if you consider what 
he has the right to do.

Don't eat something that has died naturally.
That's what the Bible says, does it seem like a good idea to 
follow that command?

Notice that God does not demand payment in currency or anything that
he could make with our hands. Anything that we might make to pay God
for renting his universe He could easily make ten of those things in an instant.

How merciful and loving God is for not requiring just payment!

We can't live in the society that we have today if can't exercise our rights regarding
what we own.
Brigand: If you take the mark then your name is not written on
the Lambs book of life. Taking the mark would result in going to hell, did 
you know that?





thenumberone :

I'm going to focus in on just a few things at a time.
If you build a house and rent it out to someone, do you give
them sets of rules to follow?

"Don't damage my house, treat it with respect,
don't smoke in it, don't slam the doors, or abuse anything."

Aren't those fair rules?

The Bible tells us God is renting us the universe, and we are
to treat it with respect. Even our bodies are rented, we must only do
as we are allowed. God is not cruel though, he has rules much like those
that we would impose on somone renting our house.
We do what God says because he owns everything, To use it
in a way that he does not allow would be stealing his property.
Even so God allows us to sell various products in this world
as If we owned them- to a certain degree.
Rules do not enslave us, they protect us from the consequences
of doing what's wrong.

Since you're not the one renting out the universe,
you don't decide on the rules of renting it out.

As God owns even our very bodies he can do whatever he wants to 
them. But he doesn't, he is very kind instead if you consider what 
he has the right to do.

Don't eat something that has died naturally.
That's what the Bible says, does it seem like a good idea to 
follow that command?

Notice that God does not demand payment in currency or anything that
he could make with our hands. Anything that we might make to pay God
for renting his universe He could easily make ten of those things in an instant.

How merciful and loving God is for not requiring just payment!

We can't live in the society that we have today if can't exercise our rights regarding
what we own.
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04-03-13 01:14 PM
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Sword legion :
No one has the right to own a person, not even god.

Landlords have to ensure housing is fit for living in, that its safe, hygenic, that it doesent negatively ipact other people etc etc, this isnt the case with god. people live in squalor, in their own filth, children die by there thousands, disease and armys ravage entire continents, indeed, how merciful and loving is god.
You should visit less fortunate countrys, or follow the footsteps of those who died in the 2 world wars, both civilain and military. then ask yourself that question again.
This is becoming more of a, is god good conversation than answering the threads original question though, so i feel theres not much else to be said here
Sword legion :
No one has the right to own a person, not even god.

Landlords have to ensure housing is fit for living in, that its safe, hygenic, that it doesent negatively ipact other people etc etc, this isnt the case with god. people live in squalor, in their own filth, children die by there thousands, disease and armys ravage entire continents, indeed, how merciful and loving is god.
You should visit less fortunate countrys, or follow the footsteps of those who died in the 2 world wars, both civilain and military. then ask yourself that question again.
This is becoming more of a, is god good conversation than answering the threads original question though, so i feel theres not much else to be said here
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To the original question, I'm going to have to answer in the negative. They're gonna have to kill me before I let anyone take anything that pledges my allegiance to Satan's puppet. If it's forced on me, then I just have to trust in the Holy Spirit that He will break that curse, because I didn't agree with it. If it's given in a manner that is coercive, then again: I'm going to have to trust in the Holy Spirit to guide me out of the situation.

That being said, I'm not concerned about it because I do trust in God. If Rapture theology proves to be incorrect (I suspect it will happen differently than we think) and this sort of situation arises, I would go into hiding and be a part of some resistance faction. Something along those lines. I don't think it sufficient just to stand by and watch as the world burns, but I'm not going to be foolhardy about timing and knowing my part.
To the original question, I'm going to have to answer in the negative. They're gonna have to kill me before I let anyone take anything that pledges my allegiance to Satan's puppet. If it's forced on me, then I just have to trust in the Holy Spirit that He will break that curse, because I didn't agree with it. If it's given in a manner that is coercive, then again: I'm going to have to trust in the Holy Spirit to guide me out of the situation.

That being said, I'm not concerned about it because I do trust in God. If Rapture theology proves to be incorrect (I suspect it will happen differently than we think) and this sort of situation arises, I would go into hiding and be a part of some resistance faction. Something along those lines. I don't think it sufficient just to stand by and watch as the world burns, but I'm not going to be foolhardy about timing and knowing my part.
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